At this point, a virtuous man hands her clothes back to her and dismisses her from the office.
The man raped his wife and the wife did nothing wrong.
You may not have heard, but God is not a Feminist.
Unless this happened and you were there, there is no answer to this. Hypotheticals are what the Pharisees tried to use on Jesus.
Agreed but there could still be assult if her intent was not the same as his. Her intent may have been to have drinks and to meet a star and his intent may have been to have drinks and something else. In the morning after all those drinks it might be difficult to know what was consentual and what was not. She clearly was in the wrong for going to his room late at night but if she resisted his advances than he is completely responsible for his actions.
No one made that argument.
Funny how the makefun of Mike Pence but I suspect his personal rule have kept him out of a lot of trouble.
thank you.... .. . that means more to me than i can express... .. .
Yes, the 10, 20, 30 year later situations have come up in our home several times. My wife listened as several celebraties over the years have been accused and charged. She stated herself that this is "unbelievable" just for the fact that they've waited so long to come forward. I've dealt with trauma victims, and there have been some that have come forward a few years after abuse, but, even most of them have stated that the ones who come out decades later have an ulterior motive. I know it's not a popular opinion, but, I tend to agree.
Plus these situations put the whole innocent until proven guilty system of justice at jeopardy. You always want to believe the perceived victum, but afet 20 years how can anyone prove anything. There is no evidence, not witnesses, no proof of anything. It comes down to who do you believe and our sytstem of justice should be based on more than gut feeling. If I attended a party with a girl 20 years ago and for some reason she accused me today of something I did back then what defense could I have other than my word. In this culture were told to believe her no matter how long and no matter how fuzzy the details but thats not innocent till proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Those of us who are married or have daughters think about such things all the time
i learned a lot of skills like that.... and have had to use them a few times...... what i learned is that everything is easy in the gym and in training...... but in the real world it seldom turns out the way you planned...... and it can also be painful...very painful... even if you win... .
the reason i made that post was to try and get men to put themselves in our place for a moment and imagine what it;s like trying to exist safely in world basically ruled by men....... and in the case of a church group... especially one operated like a cult... it;s very powerful and influential men..... women ..especially young ones... get lured into relationships with men like that and very often against their will.... they stay in it because these men are powerful and have influence... and by contrast women feel powerless...
Are you kidding? You are making absolute, clear, powerful sense. You are such a clear communicator. I think you should write a book.
I've taught my daughter and wife to defend themselves. In the use of a firearm, they know that the best defense is to empty the weapon into the center of the space of the attacker. Especially my daughter, I took to the range, then to the woods hunting, and had her practice firing a powerful weapon, and even a less powerful one, into a target at close and farther away distances. She would always miss on a couple of the shots, but inevitably connect on the rest. Just my personal practice.
by law i am not allowed to even touch firearms.... .(red flag laws hawaii has had for decades concerning people diagnosed with menatl illness)...... ... but i do have an awesome stilletto that wear concealed..it was given to me for christmas years ago..... .. it;s of legal length ... the blade is only 3 and 3/4 inches long.... thus not unlawful to carry... .but still very lethal... my sister taught me how to use it ... and she said... there is no artery or vital part of the human body that cannot be accessed and opened with a 3 and a half inch blade weilded by a determined fighter and a strong arm..... ..only problem is you gotta get up close and personal in a fight like that... .. it;s not a stand off and shoot from a distance weapon... even a short distance.....
This it fact has happened. My wife has talked to a few woman that are close friends. It happens!