Country Star Leaving Music Industry for Seminary

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My issue isn’t “ministering in dark places.” Quite frankly, that’s a noble thing to do, and as pointed out, not all Christians may be strong enough in their faith to do this without getting sucked into a vortex. My real issue is the idea of “ministering by participation.” If Granger was going into bars and singing Christian songs and sharing the gospel, then I think that’s fantastic, but that’s not what he was being encouraged to do. He was being encouraged by these “pastors” to continue his same old country gig singing in bars as a “ministry.”

I’m confused how anyone on this forum can condone this type of lifestyle…unless it’s to deflect from your own.
 
HukNduck said:
My issue isn’t “ministering in dark places.” Quite frankly, that’s a noble thing to do, and as pointed out, not all Christians may be strong enough in their faith to do this without getting sucked into a vortex. My real issue is the idea of “ministering by participation.” If Granger was going into bars and singing Christian songs and sharing the gospel, then I think that’s fantastic, but that’s not what he was being encouraged to do. He was being encouraged by these “pastors” to continue his same old country gig singing in bars as a “ministry.”

I’m confused how anyone on this forum can condone this type of lifestyle…unless it’s to deflect from your own.
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If someone singing secular songs in a bar is out of line, how is singing those same songs in an arena where there are a bunch of drunks any more sanctified?
 
abcaines said:
If someone singing secular songs in a bar is out of line, how is singing those same songs in an arena where there are a bunch of drunks any more sanctified?
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If your intention is to do it as a “ministry,” it’s not. Which part of singing secular songs in a bar or arena is considered “ministerial”?
 
How can anyone eat meat offered to idols?

Are we not ministers 24/7 - in *everything* we do?

Should I quit my job as a computer programmer because I write code for our Purchasing and Marketing departments (and we all know those marketers are liars!), and go find a job writing code for a Christian ministry?
 
voicecrying said:
How can anyone eat meat offered to idols?

Are we not ministers 24/7 - in *everything* we do?

Should I quit my job as a computer programmer because I write code for our Purchasing and Marketing departments (and we all know those marketers are liars!), and go find a job writing code for a Christian ministry?
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Straw man argument…and you know it.
 
HukNduck said:
OK, so which part of singing secular songs at a bar constitutes “ministry”?
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I think it depends on the person. For me, I don't see how it would ever be. But if someone is convinced in his mind and he can do it with a clear unseared conscience, well, that's between him and God.
 
voicecrying said:
Also, that is not all we are called to minister. Taking care of widows and fatherless among many other things is ministry.
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OK, but you asked for my definition. I’m still waiting on your definition.
 
HukNduck said:
Being neighborly is a great thing, but I’m not sure how being friendly really gets the Gospel of Christ spread to the lost. I’ve known some friendly atheists in my time.
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Loving our neighbor entails much more than being friendly.
 
just wondering if the arguments claiming that it;s ok to perform music in a bar - and to consider it part of your ministry.... would play out in the kind of bars and night clubs my mom use to drag me into as child in california.. .:unsure:. ...some of them had live music on occasion... i even heard country music a few times... (at least i think it was country)... .. . . i also saw plenty of bikers in some of the bars..... and no, they weren;t the village people kind of bikers either - they were real ones .. ..i learned how to read the word "california" from seeing it on the lower backs of their jackets... and recognized that as where we lived... ....quite often i even saw people who later would show up at our house... ..

but what i never saw there in the first 9 years of my life was anybody presenting the gospel.... not by way of music... prayer.... regular coversation... or even a cross or slogan on their shirt.... ... maybe they did and i just didn;t speak or read enough english at the time to understand it.... ..but i did see quite a few fights from time to time.... lots of drug use.... tons of alcohol.....smoke so thick it got hard to see the far side of the rooms some time..... and things going on that most people ..if they saw it somewhere other than a place like that.. would tell them to take it to a room or a motel......

but i;m guessing the kinds of bars being discussed here are very different than those i know about?.... i never saw that kind so i really don;t know.... but i saw bikers mentioned and just wondered if they went to the kind of bars being discussed here too.... ❔ ❔ ❔
 
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