What I saw in church this week..............

[fishinnut]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

It is hard to tell........but I think we had more in Church Ed when I was there.

 

[16KJV11]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

It is hard to tell........but I think we had more in Church Ed when I was there.

At least the front row is filled!

 

[RAIDER]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

Though it's not the at the same level, I can't help but remember hearing Dr. Hyles tell the story of Spurgeon's Tabernacle at the time of Spurgeon and now.

 

[tobytyler]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

Though it's not the at the same level, I can't help but remember hearing Dr. Hyles tell the story of Spurgeon's Tabernacle at the time of Spurgeon and now.

I think that Highland Park Baptist in Chattanooga, TN was averaging around 300 people before their buildings were sold and the church relocated to the property of Camp Joy.  Lee Roberson averaged in the thousands and built a 6,000 seat auditorium shortly before his retirement.  It's sad when these churches lose  so many people with changes in the pastorates.

 

[bgwilkinson]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

Though it's not the at the same level, I can't help but remember hearing Dr. Hyles tell the story of Spurgeon's Tabernacle at the time of Spurgeon and now.

I think that Highland Park Baptist in Chattanooga, TN was averaging around 300 people before their buildings were sold and the church relocated to the property of Camp Joy.  Lee Roberson averaged in the thousands and built a 6,000 seat auditorium shortly before his retirement.  It's sad when these churches lose  so many people with changes in the pastorates.

When a church is built around a charismatic preacher instead of the LORD you get that result.
As we know so well at FBCH.
Some of them even go out of business, can we say Miller Road.

 

[bgwilkinson]

From Sunday night May 28, 2017.

Though it's not the at the same level, I can't help but remember hearing Dr. Hyles tell the story of Spurgeon's Tabernacle at the time of Spurgeon and now.

It is interesting you mentioned The Metropolitan Tabernacle of London.

That congregation began meeting in the 1650s and they are still going today, over 350 years. What IFB church can match that? Don't think they're dead yet.
http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw9r7JBRCj37PlltTskaMBEiQAKTzTfAKHpqqLBzXdQWd-shGhX-Ot-yEIv0qtwTcyDHvzaRkaAoep8P8HAQ

Recent view of building.

pic of service

 

[RAIDER]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

 

[bgwilkinson]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

The income from various sources is printed every week in the hand out.  Weekly budget income is normally in the range of 85,000.00 to 95,000.00, this represents publicly known on budget spending.

In addition to budget we have off budget (some call it the black budget) income of between 26,000.00 and 29,000.00 that goes to missions.

I will not spin the truth into a lie by only giving the good reports.

The answer to your question with appropriate caution is that at this time the finances are under control, the bills are current and the outlook for the continued viability of the church corporation is guarded.

Future depends on getting more paying members to replace the ones we are losing.

As you can see from this pic I took tonight June 7, 2017 at 7:10PM we are not doing well at recruiting new paying members to replace the ones that are leaving.

 

[16KJV11]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

The income from various sources is printed every week in the hand out.  Weekly budget income is normally in the range of 85,000.00 to 95,000.00, this represents publicly known on budget spending.

In addition to budget we have off budget (some call it the black budget) income of between 26,000.00 and 29,000.00 that goes to missions.

I will not spin the truth into a lie by only giving the good reports.

The answer to your question with appropriate caution is that at this time the finances are under control, the bills are current and the outlook for the continued viability of the church corporation is guarded.

Future depends on getting more paying members to replace the ones we are losing.

As you can see from this pic I took tonight June 7, 2017 at 7:10PM we are not doing well at recruiting new paying members to replace the ones that are leaving.

I doubt if there are 300 people in the auditorium...

 

[16KJV11]

I'd be interested in what the Sunday AM crowd looks like and the Sunday evening crowd...

 

[WESLEY]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

The income from various sources is printed every week in the hand out.  Weekly budget income is normally in the range of 85,000.00 to 95,000.00, this represents publicly known on budget spending.

In addition to budget we have off budget (some call it the black budget) income of between 26,000.00 and 29,000.00 that goes to missions.

I will not spin the truth into a lie by only giving the good reports.

The answer to your question with appropriate caution is that at this time the finances are under control, the bills are current and the outlook for the continued viability of the church corporation is guarded.

Future depends on getting more paying members to replace the ones we are losing.

As you can see from this pic I took tonight June 7, 2017 at 7:10PM we are not doing well at recruiting new paying members to replace the ones that are leaving.

I doubt if there are 300 people in the auditorium...

To be fair... this is only the front half of the auditorium.  A lot of older people sit int he back.

Also, there are approx. 800 - 1,000 teenagers and children out of the service on Wednesday nights for the Children's Programs...

 

[fishinnut]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

It's been a dozen years since I have been a part of a church that has a Wed. PM service. I never think about it midweek unless I'm driving by a church with a  sparsely filled parking lot.

 

[bgwilkinson]

As I look at all of the empty seats in the auditorium I must ask this question - How are the finances at the church?

The income from various sources is printed every week in the hand out.  Weekly budget income is normally in the range of 85,000.00 to 95,000.00, this represents publicly known on budget spending.

In addition to budget we have off budget (some call it the black budget) income of between 26,000.00 and 29,000.00 that goes to missions.

I will not spin the truth into a lie by only giving the good reports.

The answer to your question with appropriate caution is that at this time the finances are under control, the bills are current and the outlook for the continued viability of the church corporation is guarded.

Future depends on getting more paying members to replace the ones we are losing.

As you can see from this pic I took tonight June 7, 2017 at 7:10PM we are not doing well at recruiting new paying members to replace the ones that are leaving.

I doubt if there are 300 people in the auditorium...

To be fair... this is only the front half of the auditorium.  A lot of older people sit int he back.

Also, there are approx. 800 - 1,000 teenagers and children out of the service on Wednesday nights for the Children's Programs...

800 to 1,000 seems a bit high. Most of my grandchildren participate in Transformers on Wednesday nights, I'll see if they have some idea how many are in their individual groups.

Maybe you have walked around to all of them and counted, I have not.

 

[bgwilkinson]

This is what I saw today June 11, 2017 at FBCH.

How well we are doing financially.

 

[RAIDER]

This is what I saw today June 11, 2017 at FBCH.

How well we are doing financially.

How are those numbers compared to the weekly budget?

 

[fishinnut]

This is what I saw today June 11, 2017 at FBCH.

How well we are doing financially.

Texting giving.................my church has that.

 

[Baptist City Holdout]

I heard of texting your response for the invitation. That's drawing the line!

 

[bgwilkinson]

This is what I saw today June 11, 2017 at FBCH.

How well we are doing financially.

How are those numbers compared to the weekly budget?

The weekly budget is about 99,000.00 which is IMHO to high. It is an amount we are wishing for and not hitting. Haven't for years.
How can that work. Well the slots that are over the about 90,000.00 are never filled so there is never any bills to pay for for those slots.
As I said before we are not behind on the bills we use the lower figure as a practical matter.
The outlook for the church corporation is guarded while outlook for HAC is bearish.

 

[bgwilkinson]

I heard of texting your response for the invitation. That's drawing the line!

If you can  use the results of text giving to pay the bills why not text invitation responses they would be easier to count and more accurate than counting hands. Oh, and harder to fudge. Ok, maybe not so good.

 

[fishinnut]

I heard of texting your response for the invitation. That's drawing the line!

If you can  use the results of text giving to pay the bills why not text invitation responses they would be easier to count and more accurate than counting hands. Oh, and harder to fudge. Ok, maybe not so good.

We use it on big attendance days for invitations.