Trump and Tariffs

[Bruh]

Actually, America is waking up. But I don't remember you posting any dire economic warnings regarding Biden's policies, and his were the ones hurting everyone except the elites.

It’s gonna be the same under Trump.

I don’t care about Biden he wasn’t the actual president any way.

I didn’t vote for Biden I voted for Trump.

 

[sword]

The Mounties just seized $83M with of cocaine that came to Toronto through the U.S.:

"These drugs travelled all the way from Mexico, over the United States' southern border, then made their way here to Canada, where we stopped and seized them," he said at Tuesday's news conference.​

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-cocaine-investigtion-1.7437364

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Golly. If Trump can't tighten the security on your northern border, we might have to slap some pretty hefty tariffs on you guys. Maybe even make you the 11th province.

Were the drugs labeled with a country of orgin sticker. How do they know they came from Mexico?

We do need to tighen the border (northern and southern) but the idea that we will catch everything is unlikely.

We do need to work everything out fast between Canada and the US and get back to fair free trade. We import a lot of energy, autos and auto parts, lumber and machine tools from Canada. We equally ship autos & auto parts, some lumber products and machinery and equipment. It's in both countries best interest for us to continue to freely trade with each other without additional tariffs and trade restrictions.

 

[Ekklesian]

Close your borders. Who cares? The U.S. is not dependant upon Canada.

But the blame for your drug epidemic goes to Biden et al.

Savvy?

Looks like I'm the one that didn't 'savvy.'

Trump’s Tariff War

The leaders of Canada and Mexico are indignant because Trump slammed 25 percent tariffs onto their exports. In this dispute, most of the world will side with Canada and Mexico, and Trump will be viewed as mean, erratic and even racist. It is likely t...

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As noted, Trudeau suggested that the northern border is already safe and secure, but what are the facts?​

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In an article posted by CBC News on September 12, 2024, there are many quotations from Canadian officials, and they describe a problem that is spiraling out of control. Kelly Sundberg, of Mount Royal University stated:​

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“I hate to admit it, but I think that Donald Trump is right on this, that there is a need to focus north.”​

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Sundberg added:​

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“The Americans are well aware that Canada’s capacity to screen people is really limited, if at all even existent. I mean, we do screen, kind of, but we don’t do a proficient or effective job. The Americans are well aware of this, so they can’t trust our system.”​

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Despite the weaknesses in their ability to detect illegal crossings, our Canadian neighbors discovered 19,498 migrant crossings to the USA between October 2023 and July 2024 -- twice as many as in the previous year. But that is probably the tip of an iceberg.​

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The northern border was described this way in an article in Newsday:​

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“No fence. No barricade.... The U.S.-Canada border is the longest in the world at 5,525 miles -- more than twice as long as the border with Mexico -- and it's pretty porous.”​

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For that reason, the serious criminals -- drug runners, cartel operatives, sex traffickers, terrorists -- are starting to cross into the USA from the north. Those criminals don’t want to be detected, so they are not in the official statistics.​

 

[Ekklesian]

White House Says Tariffs Are ‘Necessary Solution’ in Response to Critics

Industry groups argue that imposing widespread tariffs won’t solve the fentanyl crisis. Families affected by it support the move.

www.theepochtimes.com

Trump invoked the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to impose tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China starting on Feb. 1 over the countries’ roles in facilitating the influx of illicit fentanyl as well as illegal immigrants into the United States.​

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There are two major drug cartels in Mexico that flood the United States with fentanyl, fueling the worst drug crisis in American history.​

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CBP data showed that in fiscal year 2024, officials seized 21,148 pounds of fentanyl at the U.S. Southwest border—which is “enough to kill 4.8 billion people,” the White House said.​

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While not as large as Mexico’s drug trafficking, there’s a growing amount of fentanyl being smuggled into the United States through Canada as well in recent years.​

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The White House said 43 pounds of fentanyl were seized at the northern border last fiscal year, enough to potentially kill 9.8 million Americans.​

 

[Ekklesian]

Trump Pauses Tariffs On Mexico After It Agrees To Send Thousands Of Troops To Border

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said on Monday that she is moving 10,000 members of the country’s National Guard to the U.S./Mexico border to stop drug trafficking. Sheinbaum made the announcement after speaking earlier in the day with President Donald Trump following his decision to hit the...

www.dailywire.com

 

[Ransom]

Were the drugs labeled with a country of orgin sticker. How do they know they came from Mexico?

I would imagine the police have ways of determining a particular drug shipment's point of origin (intelligence, chemical tests, etc.).

 

[Bruh]

Canadas ambassador to America said on Sunday the Canada put 1.3 billion toward their boarder bc Trump asked them to do something about it and they did end of last year.

She said she doesn’t know what Trump is talking about.

 

[Bruh]

Sooooo…..not getting passed on to the consumer???

Trump can do no wrong. God saved his life to raise tariffs that gets passed to the consumer

 

[IFB X-Files]

Of course the tariffs will be paid by the consumer. They are a consumption tax. Back when America became an industrialized giant, the Feds only income was through tariffs. There was no personal/corporate income tax. (Off-topic, but tariffs by States were a major reason for the Civil War)

This also limited what the Feds could do as they had no other income (hello, 16th Amendment), so the government stayed small. So people paid that tax only when they made a purchase on tariffed goods.

So this is going to hurt big time. We will be double-taxed. Solution? Eliminate the 16th Amendment (while you're at it, toss the 14th and 17th as well).

So watch what Congress does. We will be double-taxed, and they will still raise the debt ceiling, probably at the requested $4 trillion. This will continue inflation (which is ANOTHER tax).

God Bless America!

 

[subllibrm]

I work for a Christian printing ministry. We are looking for a new paper supplier because the cost jumped 25% to cover the tariffs on Canadian products. Not only are we trying to find a domestic mill but will have to downgrade the quality of paper we use. All of the domestic mills bumped their prices up by, you guessed it, 25%!

 

[Bruh]

Of course the tariffs will be paid by the consumer. They are a consumption tax. Back when America became an industrialized giant, the Feds only income was through tariffs. There was no personal/corporate income tax. (Off-topic, but tariffs by States were a major reason for the Civil War)

This also limited what the Feds could do as they had no other income (hello, 16th Amendment), so the government stayed small. So people paid that tax only when they made a purchase on tariffed goods.

So this is going to hurt big time. We will be double-taxed. Solution? Eliminate the 16th Amendment (while you're at it, toss the 14th and 17th as well).

So watch what Congress does. We will be double-taxed, and they will still raise the debt ceiling, probably at the requested $4 trillion. This will continue inflation (which is ANOTHER tax).

God Bless America!

MAGA!!

 

[Bruh]

I work for a Christian printing ministry. We are looking for a new paper supplier because the cost jumped 25% to cover the tariffs on Canadian products. Not only are we trying to find a domestic mill but will have to downgrade the quality of paper we use. All of the domestic mills bumped their prices up by, you guessed it, 25%!

MAGA!

 

[aleshanee]

I work for a Christian printing ministry. We are looking for a new paper supplier because the cost jumped 25% to cover the tariffs on Canadian products. Not only are we trying to find a domestic mill but will have to downgrade the quality of paper we use. All of the domestic mills bumped their prices up by, you guessed it, 25%!

so the unscrupulous domestic paper company..... who is not being tarriffed.. and who provides a product of lower quality..... raised their prices to match the tarrifs some other foreign paper company they should be competing with is having to pay... just because the opportuntiy to rake in money was there?....... that sounds like price gouging... and it also sounds illegal.......

Price gouging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

but how is their crooked actions the fault of donald trump and maga?........ maybe you should refer the company to donald trumps new justice department and have them investigated...

 

[subllibrm]

so the unscrupulous domestic paper company..... who is not being tarriffed.. and who provides a product of lower quality..... raised their prizes to match the tarrifs some other foreign paper company they should be competing with is having to pay... just because the opportuntiy to rake in money was there?....... that sounds like price gouging... and it also sounds illegal.......

Price gouging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

but how is their crooked actions the fault of donald trump and maga?........ maybe you should refer the company to donald trumps new justice department and have them investigated...

I didn't blame anything on anyone. Just relating one example of how the tariff's impacts are playing out.

FWIW Tariffs will be passed on to the consumer just like corporate taxes are.

 

[aleshanee]

I didn't blame anything on anyone. Just relating one example of how the tariff's impacts are playing out.

i did not say you blamed anyone.... all i did was ask you a question... .can i take it from your answer that you agree with me?... and domestic paper companies raising their prizes is not trumps fault?...... ..... ..

but since you brought it up.... how are the domestic paper companies price increases a result of trumps tarriffs?.... how was that an impact of tarriffs?.......... ..one could easily point to it and claim they are not related at all..... and if investigated for price gouging it;s a gaurantee that;s exactly what those paper companies will claim....... ... they will say it;s all just coincidental.... ...

FWIW Tariffs will be passed on to the consumer just like corporate taxes are.

yeah.... you have said that before...... but so far you have failed to provide an example... ..tarriffs can be avoided if consumers avoid consuming foreign made products.. ....the claim of democrats is that trump wants to cut corporate taxes.... so who imposed the increase in taxes on your domestic paper making corporation that resulted in their huge increase in prices?..... what increase did they suffer which they are now trying to pass onto you?...... ..

 

[Bob Jones VI]

i did not say you blamed anyone.... all i did was ask you a question... .can i take it from your answer that you agree with me?... and domestic paper companies raising their prizes is not trumps fault?...... ..... ..

but since you brought it up.... how are the domestic paper companies price increases a result of trumps tarriffs?.... how was that an impact of tarriffs?.......... ..one could easily point to it and claim they are not related at all..... and if investigated for price gouging it;s a gaurantee that;s exactly what those paper companies will claim....... ... they will say it;s all just coincidental.... ...

yeah.... you have said that before...... but so far you have failed to provide an example... ..tarriffs can be avoided if consumers avoid consuming foreign made products.. ....the claim of democrats is that trump wants to cut corporate taxes.... so who imposed the increase in taxes on your domestic paper making corporation that resulted in their huge increase in prices?..... what increase did they suffer which they are now trying to pass onto you?...... ..

BIDEN

 

[subllibrm]

i did not say you blamed anyone.... all i did was ask you a question.

"but how is their crooked actions the fault of donald trump and maga?"

No one said it was. I related a story relevant to the topic.

Have a great rest of your day.

 

[aleshanee]

"but how is their crooked actions the fault of donald trump and maga?"

No one said it was. I related a story relevant to the topic.

Have a great rest of your day.

false.... if your claim is that the domestic price increase is relevant to the topic of trumps tarriffs - then it is an accusation that trump is the one responsible for those domestic price increases...... .even if only implied...... .. .. but as such it was an implication understood well enough by others here - so that even your ally on this issue posted "MAGA" in response.....

have a great rest of your day too.... maybe the rest of it can be filled with honesty and integrity..... you failed that here....

 

[Bruh]

i did not say you blamed anyone.... all i did was ask you a question... .can i take it from your answer that you agree with me?... and domestic paper companies raising their prizes is not trumps fault?...... ..... ..

but since you brought it up.... how are the domestic paper companies price increases a result of trumps tarriffs?.... how was that an impact of tarriffs?.......... ..one could easily point to it and claim they are not related at all..... and if investigated for price gouging it;s a gaurantee that;s exactly what those paper companies will claim....... ... they will say it;s all just coincidental.... ...

yeah.... you have said that before...... but so far you have failed to provide an example... ..tarriffs can be avoided if consumers avoid consuming foreign made products.. ....the claim of democrats is that trump wants to cut corporate taxes.... so who imposed the increase in taxes on your domestic paper making corporation that resulted in their huge increase in prices?..... what increase did they suffer which they are now trying to pass onto you?...... ..

If companies have to pay 25% more for materials that will get passed on to the consumer. Companies will keep the profit margins where it needs to be.

Companies will not loose 25% if they can pass it on to the consumer.

I believe it’s that simple.

 

[Bruh]

false.... if your claim is that the domestic price increase is relevant to the topic of trumps tarriffs - then it is an accusation that trump is the one responsible for those domestic price increases...... .even if only implied...... .. .. but as such it was an implication understood well enough by others here - so that even your ally on this issue posted "MAGA" in response.....

have a great rest of your day too.... maybe the rest of it can be filled with honesty and integrity..... you failed that here....

It is bc of Trump. The materials went up 25% after the tariff went into place.

Do you believe the companies will eat the 25%? Not in my world!

Ally? You’re my ally too. We’re tall friends here, in my opinion. We just have a difference in opinion, that’s all.