The Worthless Thread for Specifically Increasing Post Numbers

First route of the afternoon was uneventful; second route, not so much.
 
Worked through another incident; continued on route; It was hot; dust storm blew up out of nowhere. Pulled over and shut windows and roof vents just in the nick of time. Dust turned to rain.
 
Weather calmed down as I pulled back into bus yard; heat was nicely broken. Damp ride home on motorcycle.
 
Got home about 1730. Ate supper then kicked off my shoes. Soon, Mrs. abcaines informs me the wind has blown the cover off my bike.
 
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Put shoes back on and go out to the shop to get an extra strap to secure the bike cover. Rain starts again.
 
1845: Now I'm here relaying my day for you all and bolstering my post count. I expect to be in La-la land shortly.

Tomorrow, get up and do it again.
 
abcaines said:
I worked on F-14s during the 1980s so, I am going to be biased towards them. I was familiar with their capabilities and their armament and other than improved stealth/detection avoidance, I am not aware of any specific ways new generation fighters are that much better than F-14s. The improvements would have to be in the weapons. The F-14's speed and maneuverability can't be exceeded given human limitations to g forces and the like.
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the F18 was the direct replacement for the F14. A capability comparisions and cost of operation are like nght and day between the two. The F-18 gave the Navy everything they needed and wanted. For it's day the F-14 was ahead of its time. It was the first of the Gen 4 fighters and by its retirement it was dated but still a very nice plane.,
 
sword said:
the F18 was the direct replacement for the F14. A capability comparisions and cost of operation are like nght and day between the two. The F-18 gave the Navy everything they needed and wanted. For it's day the F-14 was ahead of its time. It was the first of the Gen 4 fighters and by its retirement it was dated but still a very nice plane.,
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almost right.... ..the F-18 was the descendant of the rejected aircraft in a competition between northrop and boeing to come up with a cheap supplement..(but not a replacement)... for both the F-14 and F-15 - both of which were extremely capable but also very expensive.... .... the 2 finalists were the F-16 and the F-17...... .

the F-16 won out and the airforce immediately put it to use..... ... but the navy could not make the F-16 work on an aircraft carrier and so they tweaked the design of the F-17 into a carrier capable fighter and dubbed it the F-18....

neither the F-18 or the F-16 can match the fighter it was designed to supplement... .neither one has the look down shoot down capability of the F-15 or the F-14.... (true air superiority)... .but both are cheaper by comparison and much easier to maintain.... .. the airforce kept a high look down shoot down capability by doing what was originally planned and keeping the F-15 up to date and in production.. they increased that capability with the F-22.... ......

but by losing the F-14 ...(thanks to dick cheney and his band of money grubbing warmongers)... and by not working to develop the F-14s replacement - the navy lost a capability it once had and which nothing they do to retrofit the F-18 will ever get back for them...... in short they have had to rely on a second rate fighter and pretend it's something that can be frontline......

my dad said it was the equivalent of somebody trading in their full sized chevy van for a v w microbus and pretending they;re ahead of the game.....
 
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i only owned one comic book in my entire life..... and it was one i found in the junk room at the house i lived in with mom until i was 9... .. valley of the gwanji.... i became fascinated with it... though i couldn;t read a word of english at the time.. . i learned to read it later after i started school...... ..

i have no idea where the comic book originally came from or who owned it before it ended up in our junk room .... but i do know it was published in 1969... around the same time a movie with same name came out... ....... .the copy i had was beaten up pretty bad.... torn pages but they all seemed to be there... .. when i was removed from that house and then later taken from the hospital in los angeles by my sister - and brought to hawaii, most everything i rmember from that house was left behind... including that comic book...

but then...... this week i found another one....... online of course..... and i bought it....😊... .this one is in better shape than the one i had back then was..... ..

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what i had forgotten about was this really cool ad on the back cover for a high end and
super fancy daisy bb gun.....

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aleshanee said:
almost right.... ..the F-18 was the descendant of the rejected aircraft in a competition between northrop and boeing to come up with a cheap supplement..(but not a replacement)... for both the F-14 and F-15 - both of which were extremely capable but also very expensive.... .... the 2 finalists were the F-16 and the F-17...... .

the F-16 won out and the airforce immediately put it to use..... ... but the navy could not make the F-16 work on an aircraft carrier and so they tweaked the design of the F-17 into a carrier capable fighter and dubbed it the F-18....

neither the F-18 or the F-16 can match the fighter it was designed to supplement... .neither one has the look down shoot down capability of the F-15 or the F-14.... (true air superiority)... .but both are cheaper by comparison and much easier to maintain.... .. the airforce kept a high look down shoot down capability by doing what was originally planned and keeping the F-15 up to date and in production.. they increased that capability with the F-22.... ......

but by losing the F-14 ...(thanks to dick cheney and his band of money grubbing warmongers)... and by not working to develop the F-14s replacement - the navy lost a capability it once had and which nothing they do to retrofit the F-18 will ever get back for them...... in short they have had to rely on a second rate fighter and pretend it's something that can be frontline......

my dad said it was the equivalent of somebody trading in their full sized chevy van for a v w microbus and pretending they;re ahead of the game.....
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That may be your dads view but that is not the view of the pilots that flew both. By the time the F18 launched the F14 design

I'm not a pilot, but I do follow a few Navy and Airforce aircraft sights and every pilot i can recall says the F18 was a much more advanced airframe. It had significantly better electronics, better maneuverability and was also much easier to maintain and burned far less fuel. It was also a multirole plane that served the purposes of the Navy and Marines. This was something the F14 was never designed to do. By the time the F18 was introduced the F14 design was 15 years old. The modern F18 could serve the air superiority role, the attack role, the ground troop support role, and with the inyroduction of the F18 Growler in 2008 in serves as an electronic attack aircraft that suppresses and jams enemy air defenses and communications systems, and protects US air and ground forces. The F18 replaced no less than 5 different dated planes in the Navy Arsenal. The one thing the F18 did not have was the the AIM-54 Phoenix that had a 85 to 100 mile range. The newest version of the Aim120 (D) is believed to have a comprable range to the old AIM 54.

Proving which plane is better is like proving which car brand is better but everyone i follow says the F14 was way ahead of its time in 1970 but by 1985 it lacked many advances in modern technology. I believe some F14 are still in service in the Iranan Air force. The F22 is still the best air superiority aircarft in the world but the F15 EX will get the job done as well.
 
sword said:
That may be your dads view but that is not the view of the pilots that flew both. By the time the F18 launched the F14 design

I'm not a pilot, but I do follow a few Navy and Airforce aircraft sights and every pilot i can recall says the F18 was a much more advanced airframe. It had significantly better electronics, better maneuverability and was also much easier to maintain and burned far less fuel. It was also a multirole plane that served the purposes of the Navy and Marines. This was something the F14 was never designed to do. By the time the F18 was introduced the F14 design was 15 years old. The modern F18 could serve the air superiority role, the attack role, the ground troop support role, and with the inyroduction of the F18 Growler in 2008 in serves as an electronic attack aircraft that suppresses and jams enemy air defenses and communications systems, and protects US air and ground forces. The F18 replaced no less than 5 different dated planes in the Navy Arsenal. The one thing the F18 did not have was the the AIM-54 Phoenix that had a 85 to 100 mile range. The newest version of the Aim120 (D) is believed to have a comprable range to the old AIM 54.

Proving which plane is better is like proving which car brand is better but everyone i follow says the F14 was way ahead of its time in 1970 but by 1985 it lacked many advances in modern technology. I believe some F14 are still in service in the Iranan Air force. The F22 is still the best air superiority aircarft in the world but the F15 EX will get the job done as well.
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it;s more than just a "view" where my dad is concerned.. .. and it actually is the view of some navy pilots who flew both - people we know personally right here in hawaii - and not simply opinions we saw posted on the internet..... . plus we have been attending rimpac open houses on aircraft carriers every 2 years - going on board during both open houses and also by invitation to special ceremonies from back when F-14s were still active duty on carriers... up to the present day... and was able to speak to many of the pilots..including pilots of the original "growler" aircraft built on an A-6 intruder ariframe - and which the F-18 can;t match the capabilities of either...... ..(for one the A-6 was an all weather aircraft and the F-18 is far from it)....

you are correct in that the F-18 replaced many different airframes in the U.S. Navy.... but that was not because it had superior capabilities to all those other aircraft..... it was nothing more than a cost reduction effort trying to take a one size fits all approach and make service of navy aircraft easier by using the same parts and service procedures for all of them.... ....much of the decisions behind all of that was due to political pressure applied by boeing who builds the F-18 - and the cheney family who made their fortunes in the defense contract industry and who made an obscene amount of money through both the iraq war and also the companys approved to build new equipment for the navy....

... ..i don;t know what your connection to the military is but our familiy is literally saturated with military on all sides... . mostly navy and marines... but a few retired army personnel as well... and a few high ranking officers from both of those services too..... ...at least one naval aviator..(a cousin).... . who flew F-4 phantoms in vietnam and saw the very first F-14s fly cover for the u.s. evacuation there.... ... ....and then the ones who were not military themselves.... like my dad..were either contractors to the military or still are in some way... .

add to all that the intense rivalry between the air force and the navy and competetition for funding.. (which the airforce wins most of the time)... . plus the navys penchant for producing propaganda in order to make even gross errors on their part and put downs by the pentagon, sound like smart planning and a strategic victory on their part .... and the rest is easy to figure out...... ....
 
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