So why the drastic change in beliefs?

$10? I wish more like $15, but then it comes with two sodas and popcorn!
 
Boomer said:
I seldom attend movie theaters (by seldom, I mean I went to see the Hobbit in December and it was the first movie I attended in 15 years). I agree with much of what you said here. The biggest problem I have with people who are against going to the movies is the fact that many of them rent the movie when it comes out of theaters. It is just as much an "appearance of evil" to poke around the movie section at Walmart as it is to go see a Disney movie in the theater.

My main reasons for hardly ever attending the movie theater:
(1) Moral - Too much sex, nudity, violence, foul language, and rotten philosophy in today's movies.
(2) Personal - I find that very few movies these days look interesting to me. Character development seems shallow, and plots unrealistic.
(3) Family - I have three kids under six years old. Taking them to a movie would be torture, and we use our babysitters for more important things.
(4) Financial

That being said, I'm not 100% against theater attendance. Once in a great while, a really good movie may come out that I would like to see on the big screen.
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We do not attend movies for the same reason we don't go to casinos to eat their cheap food, and that is to not be a stumbling block to the brethren.  If you see me in line at the theater (where they show multiple movies) you have no idea if I'm seeing a sex film or a film on penguins.  Same as the casino.  It's the same reason I don't dress in public as I dress at home.  Dr. Hyles had a good philosophy on this and it makes sense because it works.  He could have driven the most expensive cars and lived in a mansion, but did not because of appearance. 
 
There are different things that I do not do in my life because I do not want to be a stumbling block to others. But the movie excuse doesnt bother me. And I dont believe it is a stumbling block to others. 
 
[quote author=IFB X-Files]We do not attend movies for the same reason we don't go to casinos to eat their cheap food, and that is to not be a stumbling block to the brethren.  If you see me in line at the theater (where they show multiple movies) you have no idea if I'm seeing a sex film or a film on penguins.  Same as the casino.  It's the same reason I don't dress in public as I dress at home. [/quote]

I'd argue that the person who questions whether or not someone is going to see a sex film or a movie about penguins has the problem, and it wouldn't be a "weaker brother" problem.

[quote author=IFB X-Files]Dr. Hyles had a good philosophy on this and it makes sense because it works.  He could have driven the most expensive cars and lived in a mansion, but did not because of appearance.
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I can think of many good reasons not to do this, but "so people think I look good" isn't one of them.
 
I confess.  I now play Uno and play games with dice. Sometimes, I go to church without hose.

Yep, that's about how much I've changed.

But then I did not change in order to keep HAC's rules while I was there either, except for the dice and Uno cards.

Two separate Bible college presidents told my parents they were the only parents to ever call them because the rules were too lax.

I just don't have a problem believing as I always have. I am no better than anyone else by any stretch of the imagination. I am also open to other ways as long as they are not intotal contradiction of the fundamentals of God's Word.

One hadn't better mess with doctrine!
 
Been thinking a lot about this and am probably going to take a stab at giving my opinion in the next day or two. But tonight, as I looked at the op I couldn't help but look at the word drastic. Now, if I was ifb and converted to Islam or catholicism, that would be drastic. If I said God is dead that would be drastic. If I came out and said I was an atheist that would be drastic. If I had a sex change that would be drastic.                                                      I think that only in very sectarian religions would these changes be considered drastic.

Am I wrong on this?
 
The last movie I saw in a theater was when Blindside came out........I also go to the movies with my parents when I'm in Michigan. The last movie I saw with my parents was The Patriot with Mel Gidson and I cried through the movie and I will not do t hat again I get tooo emotional. I still can't watch it ....I saw Black hawk down and I still get emotional thinking about it....I'm not a faithful movie goer............... :)
 
IFB X-Files said:
If you see me in line at the theater (where they show multiple movies) you have no idea if I'm seeing a sex film or a film on penguins.  Same as the casino. 
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Sometimes the changes are because the ideas that we followed no longer held water as we thought them out as we got older.

The movie house for instance,... If you're against movies and just don't watch them I can understand that. If you say you're against the movie house but rent movies to watch home then I don't understand. I've heard that argument when I was younger and people did not know what you were watching at the theater, But then they started renting the movies. My question was this, when I was young you had G, PG and R rated movies and that's all that would play at your standard movie house but if you went to a video store you can get all sorts of rated movies and no one knew what you were carrying out in that black box. So that is one example of something that just didn't hold out when it was thought out.

Any thoughts?
 
IFB X-Files said:
Boomer said:
I seldom attend movie theaters (by seldom, I mean I went to see the Hobbit in December and it was the first movie I attended in 15 years). I agree with much of what you said here. The biggest problem I have with people who are against going to the movies is the fact that many of them rent the movie when it comes out of theaters. It is just as much an "appearance of evil" to poke around the movie section at Walmart as it is to go see a Disney movie in the theater.

My main reasons for hardly ever attending the movie theater:
(1) Moral - Too much sex, nudity, violence, foul language, and rotten philosophy in today's movies.
(2) Personal - I find that very few movies these days look interesting to me. Character development seems shallow, and plots unrealistic.
(3) Family - I have three kids under six years old. Taking them to a movie would be torture, and we use our babysitters for more important things.
(4) Financial

That being said, I'm not 100% against theater attendance. Once in a great while, a really good movie may come out that I would like to see on the big screen.
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We do not attend movies for the same reason we don't go to casinos to eat their cheap food, and that is to not be a stumbling block to the brethren.  If you see me in line at the theater (where they show multiple movies) you have no idea if I'm seeing a sex film or a film on penguins.  Same as the casino.  It's the same reason I don't dress in public as I dress at home.  Dr. Hyles had a good philosophy on this and it makes sense because it works.  He could have driven the most expensive cars and lived in a mansion, but did not because of appearance.
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If they see you in a library or bookstore, will they wonder what type book or magazine your looking for...at?  Do you eat at restaurants that serve alcohol or have bars?

Not being argumentative, just asking.  :)
 
16KJV11 said:
Before I was saved, I used to go to movie houses all the time.
After I was saved, I was warned against movie houses b/c it presented 'the appearance of evil, etc. etc. etc.'
We heard about Hellywood, etc. etc. etc.
That may be so, and much of what comes out of there is fit for hell,
But every time you look in the video section at Wal Mart for videos it could be misconstrued as 'the appearance of evil'.

I still don't go to movie houses, but for other reasons...
When you are in a movie, you can't turn off the music if you don't like it, like you can at home.
When you are in a movie, you can't just turn off the flick if the film becomes immoral or distasteful.
You can walk out, but then you just spent megabucks and wasted an evening.
Even if you think you are watching a movie that is rated just for kids, you might be completely broadsided by what you see as evidenced multiple of times while trying to find good, wholesome entertainment for the children.
So, that's why we don't go to the movies, and that's what we teach our children, our church, and they totally understand and accept it.
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We spend far too much time worrying about what people think.
For instance. When someone goes into a Walgreen's he could be getting
hard liqueur or gasp, the morning after pill. Is it our business to police others?
IFBxxx is all about judging others and being a better Christian than they are.
It's a kind of a one upsmanship. Holier than thou are Holy.
Why don't we worry more about the beams in our own eyes?
 
Maybe I'm missing the point. The only people offended by someone attending a movie are other hyper-fundy, legalist "standards" types. You aren't being a stumbling block to the unsaved or a weaker brother as the majority of humans have never even heard of a prohibition against movies, secular music, pants, etc. and most who have heard of it find the concept ridiculous. You aren't being an example to the world by not attending movies.



 
BALAAM said:
Been thinking a lot about this and am probably going to take a stab at giving my opinion in the next day or two. But tonight, as I looked at the op I couldn't help but look at the word drastic. Now, if I was ifb and converted to Islam or catholicism, that would be drastic. If I said God is dead that would be drastic. If I came out and said I was an atheist that would be drastic. If I had a sex change that would be drastic.                                                      I think that only in very sectarian religions would these changes be considered drastic.

Am I wrong on this?
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Maybe I should have used a different word than "drastic".  I didn't want the thread to cover "small" changes such as not using a Scofield Bible or SOTL hymnal.  I was looking more for changes from IFB to another stripe of Baptist, or from Baptist to another denomination.
 
16KJV11 said:
I still don't go to movie houses, but for other reasons...
When you are in a movie, you can't turn off the music if you don't like it, like you can at home.
When you are in a movie, you can't just turn off the flick if the film becomes immoral or distasteful.
You can walk out, but then you just spent megabucks and wasted an evening.
Even if you think you are watching a movie that is rated just for kids, you might be completely broadsided by what you see as evidenced multiple of times while trying to find good, wholesome entertainment for the children.
So, that's why we don't go to the movies, and that's what we teach our children, our church, and they totally understand and accept it.
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This is probably one of the best and most honest explanations for not attending movies.
 
RAIDER said:
This is probably one of the best and most honest explanations for not attending movies.
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No, the best reason is because Robert Summner said not to go.  Of course, it was written in 1955 and I'm sure things have cleaned up since then.

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IFB X-Files said:
RAIDER said:
This is probably one of the best and most honest explanations for not attending movies.
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No, the best reason is because Robert Summner said not to go.  Of course, it was written in 1955 and I'm sure things have cleaned up since then.

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Is that the edition that you purchased new?  8)
 
Norefund said:
Maybe I'm missing the point. The only people offended by someone attending a movie are other hyper-fundy, legalist "standards" types. You aren't being a stumbling block to the unsaved or a weaker brother as the majority of humans have never even heard of a prohibition against movies, secular music, pants, etc. and most who have heard of it find the concept ridiculous. You aren't being an example to the world by not attending movies.
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Exactly correct.
 
I think for the most part, or at least in my case, I still go to church, active in my SS class, but I see the church and it's people changing.  Music, orchestra, dress, etc.  I see the relaxed way people dress anymore, though at FBC many men still wear suits and women in dresses, but many others are very casual, even on Sundays.  People just don't dress up anymore to go to church.  Easter Sunday isn't a big deal anymore to dress up.  We always made a big deal to get the kids dressed up.  I didn't see that this year and honestly was truly disappointed.  The way the teenagers dress nowadays (even HB kids) truly are getting to the point of breaking standards.  Parents don't want to fight with the kids anymore regarding dress standards so they let them "skate" by the dress codes.  My teenager doesn't go to HB, but we still have dress code standards in our home and she knows the limit.  "If Bro. Hyles were alive", we would not have the orchestra, Mrs. Colsten would still be in charge of the music ... we would still be in the old auditorium, no screen TV, no computers.  But he's not alive ...  It just seems like one church wants to out do the other.  Like Jack Schaap (when he was there) wanted to out do Steve Munsey (Family Christian Center in Munster).  One up on each other.  I'm not changing my KJV Bible, I still read it but it seems when churches change, so do the people. 
 
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