16KJV11 said:
bgwilkinson said:
Bruh said:
bgwilkinson said:
RAIDER said:
Did you notice in his information that he mentions his "grandfather and dad" but never mentions them by name?
If your father and grandfather were infamous IFBs as well as an embarrassment to Christianity in general you wouldn't want to use their names in publicity for your new organization. IMHO
Their names are no longer used in a positive way in Hammond.
Hyles as well?
Bro. Hyles was my pastor for most of my adult years. So much of what he taught and practiced was blatant heresy or worse blasphemy against God The Holy Spirit.
Much of his teaching was designed to build himself up in our eyes and as a defense against his accusers.
Those of us older members are slowly recovering, but we have a long way to go. His name is not held in high regard among us as it once was.
It will be a good thing for all reminders of our two former pastors to fade into just a distant memory.
Is this a revelation that has occurred since the Schaap debacle or have the seeds of overthrowing the memory of Hyles been implanted way before then?
IOW, is this a recent decision?
Also, has Wilkerson been distancing himself from Bro. Hyles too?
Question three: how soon do you think that Lapina will be La bye bye?
Or is he like the communist party member behind the scenes that really makes the decisions, and Wilkerson is the pawn putting up with the hierarchy?
Is this a revelation that has occurred since the Schaap debacle or have the seeds of overthrowing the memory of Hyles been implanted way before then?
For myself the realization that I had been duped started right after Bro. Hyles died. I thought he would outlive me. He was like our Moses. He promoted that idea to solidify his power base.
In reality he had taken the place of the Lord Jesus in our church.
We are not now actively expunging either former pastor's names or memories. We just do not want to remember all the damage they have done to FBCH.
We are not actively trying to overthrow the memories of the last 50 years, we are letting them fade into the past without as much as a second thought.
For example I started to go through the Hammond Baptist Pulpit Books of Bro. Hyles sermons from the 70's and I just gave up. The stuff he has in those books looks so toxic now. It is easy to see now how he was manipulating us as church members.
I boxed them up and put them back in the basement in a corner with a sign attach to the cover of each volume reading, "These books are sermons by a master manipulator of people, be very careful if you read these. Check everything written against the Bible. I do not approve of the teachings you may read in these books."
Maybe my great great grand kids will find them after I'm gone. They'll be good for a laugh I'm sure.
Also, has Wilkerson been distancing himself from Bro. Hyles too?
I have not heard either former pastor's names mentioned from the pulpit for months.
So yes he to is distancing himself.
You can tell how much things have changed by these two things.
1. When a guest speaker fills in for Pastor Wilkerson the guest speaker sits in the same chair Pastor Wilkerson uses when he is in attendance. This never, never, never happened with either of the last two pastors.
2. Pastor Wilkerson prefers to be called pastor. He does not like us using the term Preacher when we reference him.
These two illustrate a sea change has occurred.
Question three: how soon do you think that Lapina will be La bye bye?
Well EL can leave at the time of his choosing it's up to him. There is no push for him to go.
After all the Deacons hired him to run the business of the Church after Bro. Hyles died.
Same as when Schaap died to us.
Or is he like the communist party member behind the scenes that really makes the decisions, and Wilkerson is the pawn putting up with the hierarchy?
No, the Board of Directors of FBCH ie. Deacons are in control of the money and are exercising an over-site roll in all of the operations of FBCH and its affiliates. As they should have been doing all along.
You should check out the new Corporate Bye Laws.
