Are you eating at Chick FIL A today?

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=rsc2a]] I underlined the part that you ignored.

I'd also point out that you said fellowshiping/disfellowshiping people is what the Lord's Supper centers around. Even if I agreed with you that this was a component (which I don't), that doesn't mean it centers around it. Turner Field centers around baseball, not funnel cakes, even if funnel cakes are a part of the baseball experience.
[/quote]

You ignore the fact that such a remembrance is allocated to the church, which is to be comprised of saved and baptized believers, but I wouldn't expect intellectual honesty out of you.  That is also evident by the fact you ignored my question to you, AND the I Corinthian passage.  All your quibbling over semantics is tantamount to gagging at gnats and swallowing camels.  The obvious point of my post(s) was that the idiot in the linked article was far afield of Biblical Christianity by claiming that Cathy was wrong for his views about how Christ/the Bible viewed eating/fellowshipping with people around food.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=ALAYMAN]You ignore the fact that such a remembrance is allocated to the church, which is to be comprised of saved and baptized believers, but I wouldn't expect intellectual honesty out of you.[/quote]

So do you pull out your santci-o-meter to measure everyone's holiness before you offer communion?

[quote author=ALAYMAN]That is also evident by the fact you ignored my question to you, AND the I Corinthian passage.[/quote]

Your question:  Who is the "you" that Christ addresses this commandment?

Answer: Nobody...Paul was addressing the "you".

As far as ignoring the 1 Cor passage: I quoted it, underlined the part you ignored, then pointed out that you ignored part of it.

[quote author=ALAYMAN]All your quibbling over semantics is tantamount to gagging at gnats and swallowing camels.[/quote]

So the fact that you write something and (apparently) don't mean what you write is because I "quibbl[e] over semantics"?

[quote author=ALAYMAN]The obvious point of my post(s) was that the idiot in the linked article was far afield of Biblical Christianity by claiming that Cathy was wrong for his views about how Christ/the Bible viewed eating/fellowshipping with people around food.[/quote]

Might want to look again at who Jesus chose to eat with before you start making those types of claims.

 

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=rsc2a]

So do you pull out your santci-o-meter to measure everyone's holiness before you offer communion?[/quote]

It's a reformed thang, I wouldn't expect you to understand. 

The "you" is obviously the church, and that means that "food" is used to discriminate those who are lost from those who are saved.  You can argue til you're blue in the face that "fencing the table" is wrong (and prove once again what a fraud of a reformed thinker/historian you are) but you'd continue to be obstinately wrong about Christian belief and practice that has been gleaned from Scriptural warrant.


[quote author=rsc2d]
Your question:  Who is the "you" that Christ addresses this commandment?

Answer: Nobody...Paul was addressing the "you".

As far as ignoring the 1 Cor passage: I quoted it, underlined the part you ignored, then pointed out that you ignored part of it.[/quote]

Your tilting at windmills and obfuscating.  The passage I cited goes to show that the Bible does ineed illustrate that food and fellowship are used in a restrictive sense, even if it be to limit fellowship to those who claim to be Christian but act to the contrary.  This destroys the fundamental misapprehension of the cited article and the claim that food is the great uniter in the Bible. 

Might want to look again at who Jesus chose to eat with before you start making those types of claims.

You're such a condescending waste of keystrokes.  I'm fully aware of who Jesus did and didn't eat with.  Dan Cathy isn't telling ANYBODY to not eat with lost people, and nobody on this thread has either, so stop erecting strawmen.

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

No parking in the CFA lot, according to my wife.  People were parking in the Lowes parking lot behind the CFA and walking over to eat.

LOL. She wasn't by chance in Orland Park IL was she? That's how it's set up there. When my wife and I went for lunch, CFA's lot was packed so we had to park in Lowes lot and walk over. When we saw how long the line was we decided to leave since my wife had to be at work in about 90 minutes time, and we didn't feel like she'd have enough time to wait, eat and then get to work on time.

Nope, down here in Dixie.  Can't get enough chicken in our family, whether Bojangles, KFC, or CFL.  Better than all those, however is my wife's southern fried chicken and pan cornbread.  I'm starting to get hungry.

 

[ThatGirl]

I'm fully aware of who Jesus did and didn't eat with.  Dan Cathy isn't telling ANYBODY to not eat with lost people, and nobody on this thread has either, so stop erecting strawmen.

The point is still being missed.  People used CFA to draw a line in the sand between people groups.  Just as the Pharisees did when Jesus walked the earth.  People who are like me will stand on this side and those who are different will be on the other.  It's divisive and that isn't what we see when we look at the life of Christ. 

It doesn't really matter.  Yesterday is over and CFA will become as insignificant as Tinky Winky has since Christians were up in arms about Teletubbies.  But it never hurts to consider how our actions look to other people.  I can assure you that flocking to CFA (pun intended  ) and shaking chicken sandwiches didn't turn anyones heart towards God.   

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

I'm fully aware of who Jesus did and didn't eat with.  Dan Cathy isn't telling ANYBODY to not eat with lost people, and nobody on this thread has either, so stop erecting strawmen.

The point is still being missed.  People used CFA to draw a line in the sand between people groups.  Just as the Pharisees did when Jesus walked the earth.  People who are like me will stand on this side and those who are different will be on the other.  It's divisive and that isn't what we see when we look at the life of Christ. 

It doesn't really matter.  Yesterday is over and CFA will become as insignificant as Tinky Winky has since Christians were up in arms about Teletubbies.  But it never hurts to consider how our actions look to other people.  I can assure you that flocking to CFA (pun intended  ) and shaking chicken sandwiches didn't turn anyones heart towards God. 

My reason for supporting CFL has nothing to do with different groups of people, or the gay community, but in the free speech rights of the owner, and their right to free enterprise and to not be punished because a bunch of libs don't agree with them.  I can guarantee you that some of our political leaders took notice, and it's their hearts I was trying to turn toward freedom. 

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=ThatGirl]It does no such thing.  You're making that up.  It simply points out that Jesus himself didn't use meals to cause divisions to make a point.  He used them as a way of uniting and showing grace. 

The whole matter of communion (Lord's Supper) centers around fellowship or disfellowshiping people, so your/his assertion really isn't even premised on a valid argument.

...so you were either chasing rabbits or tying communion to the dinner companions of Jesus (and adding a closed table element to it).

So which is it? Was your post completely off-topic (whereas the fact that I thought you were attempting to remain on-topic would make logical sense) or were you tying communion to the dining habits of Jesus?

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=ThatGirl]Yesterday is over and CFA will become as insignificant as Tinky Winky has since Christians were up in arms about Teletubbies.[/quote]

Not so long as they continue to produce delicious chicken sandwiches. 

 

[T-Bone]

I'm fully aware of who Jesus did and didn't eat with.  Dan Cathy isn't telling ANYBODY to not eat with lost people, and nobody on this thread has either, so stop erecting strawmen.

The point is still being missed.  People used CFA to draw a line in the sand between people groups.  Just as the Pharisees did when Jesus walked the earth.  People who are like me will stand on this side and those who are different will be on the other.  It's divisive and that isn't what we see when we look at the life of Christ. 

It doesn't really matter.  Yesterday is over and CFA will become as insignificant as Tinky Winky has since Christians were up in arms about Teletubbies.  But it never hurts to consider how our actions look to other people.  I can assure you that flocking to CFA (pun intended  ) and shaking chicken sandwiches didn't turn anyones heart towards God. 

And I am sure that never standing for biblical truth and being accepting of everything never lead anyone toward God.  My experience there yesterday was good and uplifting...the workers were great and it was a great time of fellowship of people who are tired of fringe groups telling us how we should feel.  If you don't feel that way, great, but don't act like your liberal theology of acceptance and everyone just getting along while the world is going to hell, will ever make a difference!

 

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=rsc2a]....irrelevant obfuscaton snipped...[/quote]

You can spin and make yourself look stupid with the best of them, but this is what ThatGirl said regarding the article...


It simply points out that Jesus himself didn't use meals to cause divisions to make a point.  He used them as a way of uniting and showing grace

Jesus certainly did cause division, and the Bible uses "food" to show that chastening/discipline by the church is a proper course of action in some circumstances.  Jesus most certainly even said he came to cause division, taken in context, to point out that some people would be divided into the goat's line, not the sheep.

 

[BandGuy]

So here

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a]....irrelevant obfuscaton snipped...

You can spin and make yourself look stupid with the best of them, but this is what ThatGirl said regarding the article...


It simply points out that Jesus himself didn't use meals to cause divisions to make a point.  He used them as a way of uniting and showing grace

Jesus certainly did cause division, and the Bible uses "food" to show that chastening/discipline by the church is a proper course of action in some circumstances.  Jesus most certainly even said he came to cause division, taken in context, to point out that some people would be divided into the goat's line, not the sheep.[/quote]

So please...please please....show me where Jesus used a meal (I'll only ask for one) to cause division.

If you'd like, I can show you several examples of Him using a meal "as a way of uniting and showing grace".

 

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=rsc2a]
So please...please please....show me where Jesus used a meal (I'll only ask for one) to cause division.

If you'd like, I can show you several examples of Him using a meal "as a way of uniting and showing grace".
[/quote]

I don't set the Apostle Paul's words against Christ's.  The whole Bible is inspired.  Christ said He came to cause division.  Don't try to make this about food, rather than the issue.  The issue is twofold; free speech suppression through political correctness, and left-leaning "Jesus loves you"  coddling theology.  The type that say that calling sin sin is bigotry.  Do you deny Christ came to cause division?

 

[T-Bone]

Both John and Paul gave great warnings about fellowshipping and even eating and offering lodging to those who deny Christ or professing Christians who are living in sin.  It is undeniable and contrary to what the article proposes.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a]
So please...please please....show me where Jesus used a meal (I'll only ask for one) to cause division.

If you'd like, I can show you several examples of Him using a meal "as a way of uniting and showing grace".

I don't set the Apostle Paul's words against Christ's.  The whole Bible is inspired.  Christ said He came to cause division.  Don't try to make this about food, rather than the issue.  The issue is twofold; free speech suppression through political correctness, and left-leaning "Jesus loves you"  coddling theology.  The type that say that calling sin sin is bigotry.  Do you deny Christ came to cause division?
[/quote]

I thought as much.

 

[rsc2a]

Both John and Paul gave great warnings about fellowshipping and even eating and offering lodging to those who claim to be brothers yet deny Christ or professing Christians who are living in sin.  It is undeniable and contrary to what the article proposes.

Fixed.

(See the distinction?)

 

[T-Bone]

Both John and Paul gave great warnings about fellowshipping and even eating and offering lodging to those who claim to be brothers yet deny Christ or professing Christians who are living in sin.  It is undeniable and contrary to what the article proposes.

Fixed.

(See the distinction?)

It didn't really need fixing...John said don't join with those who deny Christ without your qualifier...point is there are times in the Scripture where we are to separate ourselves and not even eat with certain people.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=T-Bone]
It didn't really need fixing...John said don't join with those who deny Christ without your qualifier...[/quote]

Reference please?

[quote author=T-Bone]...point is there are times in the Scripture where we are to separate ourselves...[/quote]

Sure.

[quote author=T-Bone]...and not even eat with certain people.[/quote]

Reference please?

 

[ThatGirl]

I'm fully aware of who Jesus did and didn't eat with.  Dan Cathy isn't telling ANYBODY to not eat with lost people, and nobody on this thread has either, so stop erecting strawmen.

The point is still being missed.  People used CFA to draw a line in the sand between people groups.  Just as the Pharisees did when Jesus walked the earth.  People who are like me will stand on this side and those who are different will be on the other.  It's divisive and that isn't what we see when we look at the life of Christ. 

It doesn't really matter.  Yesterday is over and CFA will become as insignificant as Tinky Winky has since Christians were up in arms about Teletubbies.  But it never hurts to consider how our actions look to other people.  I can assure you that flocking to CFA (pun intended  ) and shaking chicken sandwiches didn't turn anyones heart towards God. 

My reason for supporting CFL has nothing to do with different groups of people, or the gay community, but in the free speech rights of the owner, and their right to free enterprise and to not be punished because a bunch of libs don't agree with them.  I can guarantee you that some of our political leaders took notice, and it's their hearts I was trying to turn toward freedom.

Yes, and in my opinion that was the correct message to send but I'm afraid that isn't the message that was sent to the gay community.  In my area the gay community is threatening to show up at CFA's on Friday to conduct some public passionate necking.  And so the back and forth volleying continues.   

I only saw one person mention the political aspect of this.  Everyone else I personally saw was making a stand against gay marriage.  And there's a place to make that stand too...in the voting booths across the nation. 

 

[T-Bone]

[quote author=T-Bone]
It didn't really need fixing...John said don't join with those who deny Christ without your qualifier...

Reference please?

[quote author=T-Bone]...point is there are times in the Scripture where we are to separate ourselves...[/quote]

Sure.

[quote author=T-Bone]...and not even eat with certain people.[/quote]

Reference please?
[/quote]

2 John 9-11...you're welcome!