What is your take on gossip???

[FreeToBeMe]

Well, somebody has to do it.  We don't have TGL anymore to warn us of the horrors of women's" whos ware paints.

Well at least the newest troll picked an appropriate name for himself.

No troll here captain poopy pants. I asked a question and a few of you folks answered it (thank you by the way). The problem is, most of you dodged it and have labeled me. You don't even know who I am, yet you think you do.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if "cave_dweller" and a recently banned poster "truthhurts" were one in the same.  Mannerisms sure are similar.

 

[Sherryh]

I'm ignoring some posts LOL!

 

[lnf]

The sort of gossip that really gets to me is couched in a prayer request.  "Did you hear thus-and-such about so-and-so?  They really need our prayer!"

But I haven't noticed that sort of thing on this forum.  That's one reason why I like it here!

 

[Ransom]

Should I take a stab in the dark and guess that the "gossip" in question is the discussions surrounding the convicted molester of jailbait, Jack Schaap, and his newly called replacement?

News flash: it's not "gossip" when it's a matter of public record.

 

[Biker]

It is interesting to note that the word "gossip" can not be found in the beloved KJV. That alone should tell you something. The word often used in comparison is "talebearer" or "whisperer". Some modern versions use the word "gossip" and some use the word "slander" to express the same thoughts.

To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip". Give you an example. Paul when writing to the church at Corinth writes....

1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

I am certain that if Paul lived during this present day and wrote such a thing, he would have been accused of entertaining "gossip". Yet, we know he wasn't. What was reported was true. It wasn't gossip. The very nature of gossip reflects the presence of a "lie", "half truths" or fabrications.

Can the truth ever be considered "gossip"? I don't think so....

Anytime private info is divulged to someone whot has no right to know, or didn't ear the right to know, it it becomes gossip. It must come from the horses mouth in order to be accurate

Whether it is true or not is just semantics.

Paul had to detail sins so we'd know the difference between right and wrong. It was meant to fulfill scripture.

In the church today, we would not handle incest/fornication in the same manner nor would church discipline (Matt 18) dictate such. It would be highly inappropriate.

 

[cave_dweller]

Well, somebody has to do it.  We don't have TGL anymore to warn us of the horrors of women's" whos ware paints.

Well at least the newest troll picked an appropriate name for himself.

No troll here captain poopy pants. I asked a question and a few of you folks answered it (thank you by the way). The problem is, most of you dodged it and have labeled me. You don't even know who I am, yet you think you do.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if "cave_dweller" and a recently banned poster "truthhurts" were one in the same.  Mannerisms sure are similar.

Well a real life Columbo! Keep it up, i sense the force on you

 

[cave_dweller]

Should I take a stab in the dark and guess that the "gossip" in question is the discussions surrounding the convicted molester of jailbait, Jack Schaap, and his newly called replacement?

News flash: it's not "gossip" when it's a matter of public record.

Has nothing to do with that. HAC tours the country to recruit young people, anything that goes on thier should be well noted

 

[Sherryh]

truthhurts was rude..............

cave dweller is not rude............they are not the same person.......that's my 2 cents

 

[cave_dweller]

truthhurts was rude..............

cave dweller is not rude............they are not the same person.......that's my 2 cents

thank you 

 

[cave_dweller]

It is interesting to note that the word "gossip" can not be found in the beloved KJV. That alone should tell you something. The word often used in comparison is "talebearer" or "whisperer". Some modern versions use the word "gossip" and some use the word "slander" to express the same thoughts.

To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip". Give you an example. Paul when writing to the church at Corinth writes....

1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

I am certain that if Paul lived during this present day and wrote such a thing, he would have been accused of entertaining "gossip". Yet, we know he wasn't. What was reported was true. It wasn't gossip. The very nature of gossip reflects the presence of a "lie", "half truths" or fabrications.

Can the truth ever be considered "gossip"? I don't think so....

Anytime private info is divulged to someone whot has no right to know, or didn't ear the right to know, it it becomes gossip. It must come from the horses mouth in order to be accurate

Whether it is true or not is just semantics.

Paul had to detail sins so we'd know the difference between right and wrong. It was meant to fulfill scripture.

In the church today, we would not handle incest/fornication in the same manner nor would church discipline (Matt 18) dictate such. It would be highly inappropriate.

That is almost what I has said. Gossip being true or false has no bearing on the issue. Gossip is spreading intimate details of ones business throughout the community or cyberspace. I just wanted to hear what people morally thought on this subject.

 

[Matthew1323]

Above average people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Below average people talk about other people Please tell me you are not below average

Just because a quote has been around for a long time and is often repeated in our churches and/or circle of friends does not make it accurate.

The Lord Jesus Christ and many other godly people in the Bible spoke about all three of the things that you have mentioned. I don't consider them average, or below average.

 

[cave_dweller]

Above average people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Below average people talk about other people Please tell me you are not below average

Just because a quote has been around for a long time and is often repeated in our churches and/or circle of friends does not make it accurate.

The Lord Jesus Christ and many other godly people in the Bible spoke about all three of the things that you have mentioned. I don't consider them average, or below average.

You know what I mean man, come on! Are you trying to make a case that a problem pointer outer is better than one who is a solution/problem solver??? Yes, if one spends his/her time about tearing down others on a constant basis I would not consider them on the high end of the gene pool. You gotta be kidding me!

 

[cave_dweller]

The sort of gossip that really gets to me is couched in a prayer request.  "Did you hear thus-and-such about so-and-so?  They really need our prayer!"

But I haven't noticed that sort of thing on this forum.  That's one reason why I like it here!

very good point

 

[Castor Muscular]

The sort of gossip that really gets to me is couched in a prayer request.  "Did you hear thus-and-such about so-and-so?  They really need our prayer!"

But I haven't noticed that sort of thing on this forum.  That's one reason why I like it here!

Prayer Chain = Gossip Hotline.

 

[christundivided]

It is interesting to note that the word "gossip" can not be found in the beloved KJV. That alone should tell you something. The word often used in comparison is "talebearer" or "whisperer". Some modern versions use the word "gossip" and some use the word "slander" to express the same thoughts.

To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip". Give you an example. Paul when writing to the church at Corinth writes....

1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

I am certain that if Paul lived during this present day and wrote such a thing, he would have been accused of entertaining "gossip". Yet, we know he wasn't. What was reported was true. It wasn't gossip. The very nature of gossip reflects the presence of a "lie", "half truths" or fabrications.

Can the truth ever be considered "gossip"? I don't think so....

Anytime private info is divulged to someone whot has no right to know, or didn't ear the right to know, it it becomes gossip. It must come from the horses mouth in order to be accurate

Whether it is true or not is just semantics.

Paul had to detail sins so we'd know the difference between right and wrong. It was meant to fulfill scripture.

In the church today, we would not handle incest/fornication in the same manner nor would church discipline (Matt 18) dictate such. It would be highly inappropriate.

I believe you ignored my reference to....

1Co 11:18  For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

Did Paul believe "gossip" in your opinion? Why? or why not?

Matthew 18 was never written to deal with matters of criminal law.

The use of the word "gossip" today does not accurately reflect the use of "talebearer" and "slander" in the Scriptures. Both carry the "connotations" of a lie or purposed evil. While "gossip" can contain such... "slander" is many times a more appropriate translation. Many women may "gossip" about someone they "heard" is wanting to change their "hair color". They may not be attempting to "slander" someone with evil accusations of trying to be a "harlot". Do you see the difference?

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a][quote author=christundivided]To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip".

Gossip is more about motivation than truth. You can say something true and it still be gossip if the point of saying it is to make someone look bad or tear someone down.[/quote]

No its not...[/quote]

Very peculiar this is...

 

[christundivided]

[quote author=rsc2a][quote author=christundivided]To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip".

Gossip is more about motivation than truth. You can say something true and it still be gossip if the point of saying it is to make someone look bad or tear someone down.

No its not...[/quote]

Very peculiar this is...
[/quote]

Oh yeah. I remember. The one you provide no evidence for..... You simply use a modern English definition and then base you're entire argument on it. You really should learn more about Bible languages.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=christundivided]Oh yeah. I remember. The one you provide no evidence for..... You simply use a modern English definition and then base you're entire argument on it. You really should learn more about Bible languages.[/quote]

What does my understanding (or lack thereof) of Koine Greek have to do with the fact that you blatantly contradicted yourself?

 

[Biker]

It is interesting to note that the word "gossip" can not be found in the beloved KJV. That alone should tell you something. The word often used in comparison is "talebearer" or "whisperer". Some modern versions use the word "gossip" and some use the word "slander" to express the same thoughts.

To really understand "gossip" you must understand the nature of truth. There isn't anything wrong with the truth. Truth brings BRIGHT light to dark places.

Often people confuse the truth with gossip. When they are faced with the truth, instead of own up to the stark realities truth brings, they simply yell. "Gossip". Give you an example. Paul when writing to the church at Corinth writes....

1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

I am certain that if Paul lived during this present day and wrote such a thing, he would have been accused of entertaining "gossip". Yet, we know he wasn't. What was reported was true. It wasn't gossip. The very nature of gossip reflects the presence of a "lie", "half truths" or fabrications.

Can the truth ever be considered "gossip"? I don't think so....

Anytime private info is divulged to someone whot has no right to know, or didn't ear the right to know, it it becomes gossip. It must come from the horses mouth in order to be accurate

Whether it is true or not is just semantics.

Paul had to detail sins so we'd know the difference between right and wrong. It was meant to fulfill scripture.

In the church today, we would not handle incest/fornication in the same manner nor would church discipline (Matt 18) dictate such. It would be highly inappropriate.

I believe you ignored my reference to....

1Co 11:18  For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

Did Paul believe "gossip" in your opinion? Why? or why not?

Matthew 18 was never written to deal with matters of criminal law.

The use of the word "gossip" today does not accurately reflect the use of "talebearer" and "slander" in the Scriptures. Both carry the "connotations" of a lie or purposed evil. While "gossip" can contain such... "slander" is many times a more appropriate translation. Many women may "gossip" about someone they "heard" is wanting to change their "hair color". They may not be attempting to "slander" someone with evil accusations of trying to be a "harlot". Do you see the difference?

As soon as I get time to study, I will answer this

 

[cave_dweller]

Again, gossip is the relaying of initmate or personal details with malicious intent to another individual. Whether or not the content is true is irrelevent.