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Where were all of the brilliant people like twisted when those idiots prematurely rolled out the Polio vaccine?
What a moronic premise!
 
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Giving you a credible platform goes against my better sense, but here goes anyway. Why in the world would you say that the variants are created by those who've been vaccinated?
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"No, I haven't seen anything that distinguishes those two groups, though admittedly I am only casually interested in doing much research on this subject (kinda burnt out ya know), but that would be an interesting bifurcation. About 6 months ago I did look into the notion of differentiating the effectiveness of the jab vs natural immunity and there were conflicting data at that time, but there was enough to convince me that if somebody didn't have a compromised immunity and was young and otherwise healthy that natural immunity was as strong or more likely better than the vaccine."
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this is true.... natural immunity is much better than immunity through a vaccine.... but there are only 2 known ways to acquire natural immunity... ...one is to have had ancestors who contracted and survived a virus.... ( not likely with a virus that is only a few years old..) .... and the other is to have contracted it and survived it yourself......

there is also a type of t-cell immunity acquired by exposure to other viruses not related to the current virus... that can protect you from some current viruses.. ..it is believed that people whose ancestors survived the plague... or black death of the medieval era.... inherited a strong t-cell immunity that protects some of them from a variety of diseases.... .one of them possibly being hiv... ..researchers were looking into this at one point.. but the last thing i saw published on it was over 10 years ago.. ...
but if you look at the statistics by race of people in the united states who died of covid... it doesn;t really suggest any t-cell benefits against covid might have been inherited simply by having a known ancestor who survived the plague or any other pandemic.. .... personally i think they need more research on all of that .

i was actually going for the natural immunity/strong t-cell approach, for myself until i saw the misery many of the people who contracted covid were going through... (some of whom did not survive)... and then i saw people in the medical and ems community that i know through family, catch it ...who had appeared to be immune to every disease they had ever been exposed to in their entire careers.. ........and they almost died from it..... .......that;s when i decided to take the vaccine... ..(plus i also realized i didn;t have an ancestory that supported a strong t-cell immunity whether or not it exists in some people)....... i took one of the mRNA vacs several months ago... and have not had any probems because of it.. so far.... . ...but if i turn purple and grow horns any time soon i will let everybody know... ;)

it is also true... as you stated that vaccines do not cause viral mutations..... however... misapplied or badly concocted treatments to viruses can.... this is why the new covid pill made by merck, is getting so much resistance... ...merck admits this new pill is designed to restructure and alter the characteristics of a virus... ..hopefully to make it inert or weaker in the human body.... (a novel concept)....... but with the possibility... and now probability... that gain of function research, done by fauci and other mad scientists, is what started this whole thing in the first of place... change of function research done by a scientist whether mad like fauci or not... is going to be much harder to trust....
 
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Jonas Salk was a commie plant to harm the greater populace!
Evidently in 2 languages.
Haymaan!
 
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Really good to see you posting aleshanee! Didn't you get your bachelor's in some field of biological science?
I still think it's fascinating that there's some sort of connection to blood type and Covid susceptibility. Anyhoo, I was curious and wondered if you could you elaborate a bit more on this statement regarding the theory of worsening variants....
"misapplied or badly concocted treatments to viruses can.."
 
thanks alayman... ... my degree was in pre-medical biology... i was in a 4 year pre-med program trying to get ready for medical school... ... .but those plans got derailed.. i did complete the 4 years and came away with a degree.... not the one i wanted... (and it was supposed to have been a 3 year degree... but it took 4+ years to complete)... ... but that was also a long time ago.... i did try to keep up with certifications i had earned during the course of being in school for a while..... but i stopped going to classes for the cme partly due to cost for non-practitioners... and because i realized i was losing interest in working in the medical field anyway.. ....

but...... to answer your question...... viruses don;t replicate the same way bacteria do..... viruses replicate by targeting the specific cells of the human body... changing the dna in those cells.. and turning them into virus factories.... .....and every human body... or virus factory....is unique...with it;s own unique dna ...and therefor also has the ability to cause unique mutations in the viruses it recreates.. ..the longer any given virus resides within a human body, the greater number of cells will be affected... and the greater the chance will be for the viruses to mutate . .... if a person is infected with a particular virus for long enough, it is almost guaranteed that virus will have mutated in some way..... ...this is one of the reasons treatments that are ineffective... which cause a person to retain a viral infection longer, while doing nothing to adress it... .. ..or worse treatments that actually weaken the body so a virus takes it over completely.... can actually facilitate the viruses mutation... multiply that scenario by the number of people who might contract the virus in succession..... and allow it to be mutated through mistreatment in a similar way... and eventualy a recognizable new variant emerges..... .

that is the simple overview of it... ....but there is much more detail to it..... ....and i apologize in advance if this ends up being too long.... those of you who know me well know i have a tendency to turn posts into term papers.... ..(i don;t intend to.... it just happens....).. what i wrote thus far might have already answered most questions about what i was saying... ..but if not.... ........... ....well.......... .....here goes....... (dusted off from a very long ago shelved education)

.treatments for any infection whether viral or bacterial, either target symptoms.. or target the affecting agent.... ....most antibiotics can do a good job of killing bacteria without killing the human body they are given to....... but only when given in sufficient doses and for adequate amounts of time, to kill off the bacteria or reduce it to numbers the body can finish killing off itself.... .. if a viable colony of an invading bacteria is left alive within the body that bacteria will strengthen itself and be harder to kill the next time around... and also in the next person it infects... but since it is not being created by the body the bacteria doesn;t mutate.....

viruses on the other hand... being created by the body.... not only mutate within the body... but are also impossible to kill with medications or antiviral agents, that would not also kill the body itself... ..... so treatments of most viral infections have historically focused on relieving symptoms, adequate nutrition and resting - allowing the human body to fight the virus with it;s own natural defense mechanisms...

but there are many times when doctors might not be able to discover what the cause of an infection is.. or be unable to test for it... . . so just to be safe they will begin prescribing antibiotics for infections they are not certain of.. hoping the patient will recover quickly.... and if not, ..or if a test becomes available... then they will alter treatment accordingly.....

but sometimes... ...even in this enlightened age..... you will still come across doctors who will give antibiotics for infections they know are viral.... and not bacterial..... thinking "what the heck... what could it hurt?"..... .. .. well..... it can actually hurt a lot..... and it;s what i was thinking of when i said "misapplied treatments"

antibiotics are basically poisons.... (anti = against,.. or destroyer of / biotic = life... in other words - us).... so while the antibiotic is killing bacteria it is also killing us... just a little more slowly - and with hopes we will recover afterwards.... ....but when an antibiotic is given to someone with a viral infection it does not kill the virus... it does not even weaken it.... it only weakens the person the antibiotic was given to.... ..and that allows the virus to take a stronger hold on that persons body..... then to make matters worse, some doctors ... perhaps not knowing they are throwing antibiotics at a virus, ...will repeat the antibiotic treatment for a patient for whom the first round did nothing.... and who actually got worse instead of better.....and the damage to their body is multiplied... the viruses take over the body completely.... and it;s virus making / mutating capabilites go into over drive.... ..

the thing with the new merck medicine is different.... it targets the virus the way antibiotics target a bacteria.... only not with intent to kill it..... but with intent to alter it;s dna and change it;s function... supposedly making it weaker........ .this is totally different from how vaccines work . ....... vaccines target dna in the human body with intent to enhance or accelerate the bodies own defense mechanisms against an invading virus..... they do not make the human body weaker.....if anything they make it stronger by teaching it quickly through mRNA.. and without infection....to do what it already has the ability to learn slowly and do naturally.... .. provided the body survives the infection during that slow learning period..... .....but because all vaccines....both natural and synthetic.. .make alterations to human dna they can always have unintended consequences... but so can every food, medication, or any other substance that enters the body..... and changes made by those kings of things... (including vaccines)... are a lot less dangerous and less likely to be fatal than changes made by a live and active virus....

but the great thing about the human body is that it likes to correct whatever changes have been made to it... ... it always wants to return things to normal.... .this is why weight loss through dieting never lasts... and why vaccines wear off over time... ... the change a vaccine makes to dna that causes your body to recognize and fight a virus doesn;t last forever.... it all returns to normal eventually.... yet even with all that many doctors still believe that it;s a safer, and much better plan of action, than allowing a drug to make changes to the dna of a virus itself... ..and especially while it is alive and still active in the body.... ..

all viruses mutate... and like i mentioned before, when they have mutated a certain number of times - being transferred from one person to another.. and over and over .... certain aspects of the changes become dominant and new a variant is recognized..... and while naturally ocurring viruses generally become more contageous as they mutate. ..(a method to gaurantee survival).... ... at the same time they also become less deadly...... (guarantee of survival by alowing the host to survive and continue spreading itself)...

in short.... the way the body reacts to a vaccine is not controlled by the virus or what type of virus it is.... ..it;s controlled by the body itself.... ..it;s alll natural regardless of the nature of the vaccine..... ...but now the big question about this covid virus is whether or not it is natural.... did it really jump from animals to humans in a wet market or was it created in a lab?..... and what will happen to it when a new medicine designed to un-naturally alter it;s already un-natural dna hits it for the first time in the general population?..... that is where the real danger in adressing this virus could manifest itself... .... it;s not much different than faucis gain of function research..... except it;s being done within the human body rather than a lab..... ...... .this is what i was thinking of when i said "badly concocted treatments"... .reading about it made me think of dr frankenstein and the famous phrase... "it;s alive!" .....yeah.... it very well could be if we give these mad scientists what they want....
 
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Very interesting and informative aleshanee!
 
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I lean way closer to Candace Owens than Lou Rockwell, but truth is often found in nuances and shades of gray, and ultimately that tweet goes off the rails at both ends of its analogy. There is undue political influence in this and cause for concern regarding control freaks. But it's also true that we are returning to normalcy, albeit slowly. Diligence for reasonable people to watch both signs of the aisles is warranted.
 
ALAYMAN said:
I lean way closer to Candace Owens than Lou Rockwell, but truth is often found in nuances and shades of gray, and ultimately that tweet goes off the rails at both ends of its analogy. There is undue political influence in this and cause for concern regarding control freaks. But it's also true that we are returning to normalcy, albeit slowly. Diligence for reasonable people to watch both signs of the aisles is warranted.
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Plus the conspiracy theorists on here go way beyond stating that covid wasn't going away and the governments would use it for their own agendas. Articles posted here have lizard folk tie ins, nanobots in the vaccine tie ins, refusal to accept anything other than every report made in VAERs is a verified death by covid and lots of craziness I've blocked out of mind. And the "covid doesn't really exist" crowd.
 
ALAYMAN said:
I lean way closer to Candace Owens than Lou Rockwell, but truth is often found in nuances and shades of gray, and ultimately that tweet goes off the rails at both ends of its analogy. There is undue political influence in this and cause for concern regarding control freaks. But it's also true that we are returning to normalcy, albeit slowly. Diligence for reasonable people to watch both signs of the aisles is warranted.
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I also tend to agree with Owens...the vaccine‘s and COVID are no doubt being used by some to advance the role of government (seeking more control over our lives). As tmjbog states above, that still places me waaay outside the loony parameters of twisted’s extreme views. And the latest ‘Nobel laureate‘ theory that vaccines should only be introduced when the disease is ‘over’ is too stupid to be called ludicrous.
 
tmjbog said:
Plus the conspiracy theorists on here go way beyond stating that covid wasn't going away and the governments would use it for their own agendas. Articles posted here have lizard folk tie ins, nanobots in the vaccine tie ins, refusal to accept anything other than every report made in VAERs is a verified death by covid and lots of craziness I've blocked out of mind. And the "covid doesn't really exist" crowd.
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And that's all just Twisted . . .
 
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