The Mega-Thread for COVID Evangelists

AverageJoe said:
As I stated before, you can keep repeating the same rhetoric as before...but it doesn't make it so. Have a nice day!
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Except it's not just rhetoric as I did yesterday I can take Indiana's numbers and match them with what the feds have for Indiana. In the same way I can take the county numbers for Indiana and match them up with state of Indiana totals.
 
tmjbog said:
Except it's not just rhetoric as I did yesterday I can take Indiana's numbers and match them with what the feds have for Indiana. In the same way I can take the county numbers for Indiana and match them up with state of Indiana totals.
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Good for you...have at it! ;)
 
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Mask hazards: a stifled debate

Reuters struck again last night, re-posting my tweet of a year ago, again twisting facts, in order to allege misinformation, thereby obscuring an alarming risk of mask-wearing.
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Whatever people are dying from in the US and worldwide there seems to be statistical evidence of an anomaly that is reasonably explained by Covid influence.

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Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)

Excess mortality is a term used in epidemiology and public health that refers to the number of deaths from all causes during a crisis above and beyond what we would have expected to see under ‘normal’ conditions.1 In this case, we’re interested in how the number of deaths during the COVID-19...
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A small victory, but a great win for the employees. This, along with Intel refusing to mandate the vax, are steps in the right direction.

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Breaking: Southwest Airlines Backs Off Vaccine Mandate

Southwest Airlines has now announced that it will no longer place unvaccinated employees on unpaid leave if they are not vaccinated by the December 8th deadline. Plus, the CEO of Southwest says he nev
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Amish COVID -- Full Measure

When it comes to actions taken to address the Covid-19 threat, hindsight is still very much underway. For your consideration: a story and outcome you probably aren’t hearing much about anywhere else.
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Twisted said:
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Amish COVID -- Full Measure

When it comes to actions taken to address the Covid-19 threat, hindsight is still very much underway. For your consideration: a story and outcome you probably aren’t hearing much about anywhere else.
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It's an interesting story. Wouldn't be surprised if 90% of them have had it. Area where I grew up was largely Amish and they were impacted heavily early on. I think the Amish in general are in better health, not sure the general population would fare as well.
Two things interesting in the story the reporter refers to the guy being interviewed as "Amish-Mennonite". I've never heard of one of those creatures before. Is that like a Lutheran-Baptist? I thought she hadn't done her research at first and just made an error. After watching the entire segment it seems on purpose. The guy keeps saying "we" when talking about the Amish community. He's not Amish. If an Amish person was to leave their church and join this guys Mennonite church they would be shunned. Obviously an Amish person isn't going to talk to a reporter.
 
tmjbog said:
It's an interesting story. Wouldn't be surprised if 90% of them have had it. Area where I grew up was largely Amish and they were impacted heavily early on. I think the Amish in general are in better health, not sure the general population would fare as well.
Two things interesting in the story the reporter refers to the guy being interviewed as "Amish-Mennonite". I've never heard of one of those creatures before. Is that like a Lutheran-Baptist? I thought she hadn't done her research at first and just made an error. After watching the entire segment it seems on purpose. The guy keeps saying "we" when talking about the Amish community. He's not Amish. If an Amish person was to leave their church and join this guys Mennonite church they would be shunned. Obviously an Amish person isn't going to talk to a reporter.
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The Mennonites
in the area where I was raised have always stated that they are an offshoot of the Amish. They have the same basic principles as the Amish with a few variations.
 
tmjbog said:
Two things interesting in the story the reporter refers to the guy being interviewed as "Amish-Mennonite". I've never heard of one of those creatures before. Is that like a Lutheran-Baptist?
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Not exactly. The Lutherans aren't a subset of the Baptists, or vice versa. But the Amish are Mennonites. I would guess that "Amish-Mennonite" is something like "Judeo-Christian," suggesting a certain amount of commonality. Where I went to school, there was a large community of Old Order Mennonites. They and the Amish have significant similarities, notably plain dress, Pennsylvania German, being very selective of the technology they will allow in the community, and so forth. But there are also significant differences: for example, the Old Order Mennonites have purpose-built meeting houses for church, while the Amish meet in homes. They're different enough that they wouldn't be comfortable living in each other's communities.
 
AverageJoe said:
The Mennonites
in the area where I was raised have always stated that they are an offshoot of the Amish. They have the same basic principles as the Amish with a few variations.
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Actually it's the opposite. The Amish are an offshoot of the Mennonites. The Mennonites always endeavored to live simply but they used their own judgement throughout history to determine what that meant. The Amish broke off because they wanted a stricter adherence and to identify how they will interact with the world and it's modernization and continue with those same sets of standards going forward. There are quite a few variations depending on which group of Mennonites you are talking about. The Conservative Mennonites will dress similar to the Amish but will drive cars and typically have electricity in at least part of their house. The Mennonites don't speak PA Dutch they are typically part of the "English". Mennonites will have church buildings where Amish meet at homes. There are many Mennonites that you would not even know are Mennonite unless they told you. Some Mennonite sects the women wear a covering on top of their head all the time, some only to church, and some never. One thing I remember about the Mennonites where I grew up was they always drove nice cars.
 
Ransom said:
Not exactly. The Lutherans aren't a subset of the Baptists, or vice versa. But the Amish are Mennonites. I would guess that "Amish-Mennonite" is something like "Judeo-Christian," suggesting a certain amount of commonality. Where I went to school, there was a large community of Old Order Mennonites. They and the Amish have significant similarities, notably plain dress, Pennsylvania German, being very selective of the technology they will allow in the community, and so forth. But there are also significant differences: for example, the Old Order Mennonites have purpose-built meeting houses for church, while the Amish meet in homes. They're different enough that they wouldn't be comfortable living in each other's communities.
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I didn't know the Old Order Mennonites spoke PA Dutch. When I left Indiana a younger guy from church had left the Mennonites because he said most of the Mennonite churches were going Charismatic. I heard that from a few other people afterward as well. I'm assuming they didn't come from the Conservative/Old Order brands.
 
tmjbog said:
Actually it's the opposite. The Amish are an offshoot of the Mennonites. The Mennonites always endeavored to live simply but they used their own judgement throughout history to determine what that meant. The Amish broke off because they wanted a stricter adherence and to identify how they will interact with the world and it's modernization and continue with those same sets of standards going forward. There are quite a few variations depending on which group of Mennonites you are talking about. The Conservative Mennonites will dress similar to the Amish but will drive cars and typically have electricity in at least part of their house. The Mennonites don't speak PA Dutch they are typically part of the "English". Mennonites will have church buildings where Amish meet at homes. There are many Mennonites that you would not even know are Mennonite unless they told you. Some Mennonite sects the women wear a covering on top of their head all the time, some only to church, and some never. One thing I remember about the Mennonites where I grew up was they always drove nice cars.
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You're correct...I typed them in the wrong order, but that is what I meant. LOL That's what I get for trying to post on only two hours of sleep in the last 72 hours. ;)
 
AverageJoe said:
You're correct...I typed them in the wrong order, but that is what I meant. LOL That's what I get for trying to post on only two hours of sleep in the last 72 hours. ;)
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The only reason I even know it is because one of my teachers in HS was Mennonite he always corrected folks who talked about Mennonites breaking from the Amish. Guess he was sticking up for his team.
 
tmjbog said:
The only reason I even know it is because one of my teachers in HS was Mennonite he always corrected folks who talked about Mennonites breaking from the Amish. Guess he was sticking up for his team.
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I dated a Mennonite girl when I was in high school Her parents didn't like that, but, they didn't stop it either. She finally felt the need to be with her own kind, and that was fine with me. They were far too strict for me.
 
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