The Mega-Thread for COVID Evangelists

[tmjbog]

Do you believe the mandates are really about getting through the pandemic?

Nope there about "doing something". Trump was criticized for not doing anything about COVID. So Biden and crew are going to do lots of stuff. It may not do any good but in his campaign commercials he wants to be able to claim he did stuff. I think you mistake incompetence for evil intent.

 

[Twisted]

The Powerful Case Against Covid mRNA Vaccine - LewRockwell

THE FACTS: Gibraltar has had a 99% vaccination rate since June 1. The consequence has been a 2,500 percent daily increase in Covid cases. As the vaccine is useless, why the push for mandatory vaccination and Covid passports? It makes no public health sense. Source THE BIG PHARMA SHILLS Fauci...

www.lewrockwell.com

 

[tmjbog]

Try to keep up. We're talking the reporting of adverse affects and what kind of risk has been considered warranted. Was there ever a vaccine kept in use with the kind of reporting accompanying the mRNA injections? Even close?

Am I to take that to mean that you think the unprecedented measures were warranted and effective? That it's all really about our health?

Of course there could be other factors causing the increased "reporting" for COVID. Part of the emergency use authorization required healthcare professionals to report rather than it being a voluntary thing like other vaccines. Also in the neighborhood of 200M people getting vaccinated in a relatively short period. A certain percentage of the population was already going to have medical events whether they received a vaccine or not. But since they got the vaccine they may very well associate it with that. I do not know of a one size fits all risk based assessment where a vaccine is pulled after so many adverse reports. If you know of this universal criteria please share.

 

[tmjbog]

The Powerful Case Against Covid mRNA Vaccine - LewRockwell

THE FACTS: Gibraltar has had a 99% vaccination rate since June 1. The consequence has been a 2,500 percent daily increase in Covid cases. As the vaccine is useless, why the push for mandatory vaccination and Covid passports? It makes no public health sense. Source THE BIG PHARMA SHILLS Fauci...

www.lewrockwell.com

Yes,,, More Lew! Did you ever tell him how deadly aspirin is? He really needs to know.

 

[Twisted]

Whistleblower! Nurse DESTROYS "Delta" Narrative, VACCINATED Patients Fill Hospital!

Patients filling the hospitals are VACCINATED! Period!

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[Ekklesian]

Whistleblower! Nurse DESTROYS "Delta" Narrative, VACCINATED Patients Fill Hospital!

Patients filling the hospitals are VACCINATED! Period!

rumble.com

I believe the reports to that effect coming out of Israel. That being said, anonymous sources are useless unless they point us to evidence like names and places.

 

[Ekklesian]

Of course there could be other factors causing the increased "reporting" for COVID. Part of the emergency use authorization required healthcare professionals to report rather than it being a voluntary thing like other vaccines. Also in the neighborhood of 200M people getting vaccinated in a relatively short period. A certain percentage of the population was already going to have medical events whether they received a vaccine or not. But since they got the vaccine they may very well associate it with that. I do not know of a one size fits all risk based assessment where a vaccine is pulled after so many adverse reports. If you know of this universal criteria please share.

I'll take that as a no. When they were expecting a 1918 style flu outbreak, three deaths were enough to stop the vaccination program in nine states.

 

[Ekklesian]

Nope there about "doing something". Trump was criticized for not doing anything about COVID. So Biden and crew are going to do lots of stuff. It may not do any good but in his campaign commercials he wants to be able to claim he did stuff. I think you mistake incompetence for evil intent.

What do you think is behind Fauci's call for mandates, his marginalization of natural immunity, the CDC's neglect of testing representative samples of the population to estimate the total number of infections and identify epicenters of the outbreak, and last, but not least, his call for economic lockdowns which actually exacerbated the total harm of the covid outbreak? Are all those incompetence too?

 

[Twisted]

I believe the reports to that effect coming out of Israel. That being said, anonymous sources are useless unless they point us to evidence like names and places.

I agree, but I realize the blowback for those who reveal themselves. That’s why I appreciate Dr. McCullough so much.

 

[tmjbog]

I'll take that as a no. When they were expecting a 1918 style flu outbreak, three deaths were enough to stop the vaccination program in nine states.

Right. That and the fact they realized there was not outbreak so they were needlessly vaccinating people.
An hundreds of deaths have not been enough to stop other vaccines so apparently the CDC missed the memo on the Ekklesian standards for vaccinations.

# of deaths reported in VAERS from one particular flu vaccine: 168
# of deaths reported in VAERS from Chicken Pox vaccine: 71
# of deaths reported in VAERS from Human Papilloma Vaccine: 167

 

[tmjbog]

What do you think is behind Fauci's call for mandates, his marginalization of natural immunity, the CDC's neglect of testing representative samples of the population to estimate the total number of infections and identify epicenters of the outbreak, and last, but not least, his call for economic lockdowns which actually exacerbated the total harm of the covid outbreak? Are all those incompetence too?

First it would be a big assumption to assume that all of that is accurate. But it comes down to "doing". A politician does not get credit unless he has visible actions to show he "solved" the problem. But if you do have any real cool conspiracy theories please share. I like the ones with the Russian or the Lizard people best.

 

[tmjbog]

I agree, but I realize the blowback for those who reveal themselves. That’s why I appreciate Dr. McCullough so much.

Dr. McCullough? What about Lew? You just going to abandon Lew now? Just because he's slow to get on the "ban aspirin" bandwagon. Come on where are your loyalties.

 

[Ekklesian]

First it would be a big assumption to assume that all of that is accurate.

No, it's not a big assumption at all.

But it comes down to "doing". A politician does not get credit unless he has visible actions to show he "solved" the problem. But if you do have any real cool conspiracy theories please share. I like the ones with the Russian or the Lizard people best.

You just holler 'conspiracy' so you won't have to think, but this is the second time you've alluded to ulterior motives yourself.

And I agree. No, not with your specifics, that they're just bumbling idiots trying to look good, but that there are ulterior motives.

 

[Ekklesian]

Right. That and the fact they realized there was not outbreak so they were needlessly vaccinating people.

No no no. They didn't realize there was not going to be an outbreak till months later.

 

[Ekklesian]

Teenage Boys More Likely to Suffer Heart Inflammation From Vaccines Than COVID-19 Hospitalization: Study

www.theepochtimes.com

'The two main COVID-19 vaccines used in the United States are more likely to land teenage boys in the hospital than COVID-19 itself, a new study has found.​

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'Researchers analyzing reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a passive reporting system run by U.S. health authorities, discovered that the rate of cardiac adverse events for males between the ages of 12 and 15 without a serious underlying health condition after getting their second Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 dose was up to 6 times higher than their risk of COVID-19 hospitalization.'​

 

[Ekklesian]

I agree.

Biden’s New Vaccine Mandate ‘Fascist’: Rep. Donalds

www.theepochtimes.com

'In response to President Joe Biden announcing his vaccine mandate for federal workers, Republican members of Congress have criticized the new rule for infringing on personal freedoms. Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.) called the mandate, “fascist— downright totalitarian.”'​

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'“We should be doing a number of things. Number one, like what we’re doing in Florida led by Governor DeSantis, making sure people are aware of Regeneron and other treatments that are there to help people get through COVID-19; number two, we need to be embracing antibody testing, not just COVID-19 testing, but testing for antibodies, because people have antibodies.​

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'“That’s just like getting the vaccine, that’s the purpose of getting the vaccine, is to have antibodies. Antibody testing should be much more a part of this, but we should not be mandating vaccines,” said Donalds.'​

 

[Ekklesian]

"I Don't Have a Firm Answer For You on That" - Fauci When Asked Why People with Natural Immunity Should be Required to Get Covid Vax (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

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www.thegatewaypundit.com

'Dr. Fauci on Friday was finally asked why people with natural immunity should be required to get the Covid vaccine.'​

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'“You know, that’s a really good point,” Fauci said. “I don’t have a really firm answer on that.”'​

Can't wait to hear how he walks this one back.

 

[Ransom]

The Powerful Case Against Covid mRNA Vaccine - LewRockwell

THE FACTS: Gibraltar has had a 99% vaccination rate since June 1. The consequence has been a 2,500 percent daily increase in Covid cases. As the vaccine is useless, why the push for mandatory vaccination and Covid passports? It makes no public health sense. Source THE BIG PHARMA SHILLS Fauci...

www.lewrockwell.com

"There are two reasons for Covid infections. One is the mRNA vaccine which spreads Covid."

How does it accomplish that? There's no virus, or so I've been told!

 

[tmjbog]

"There are two reasons for Covid infections. One is the mRNA vaccine which spreads Covid."

How does it accomplish that? There's no virus, or so I've been told!

You just don't get it, do ya. Everyone knows it's Lizard people magic.

 

[tmjbog]

No no no. They didn't realize there was not going to be an outbreak till months later.

We can go off of Ekklesian's opinion are the facts that were gathered by the guy who investigated the incident back in the 70's.

How much did the coincidental deaths that you mentioned affect public perception of the immunization campaign and uptake of the vaccine?

Well, really what affected it more was the absence of disease! Nobody was getting the swine flu, so what, people felt, was the point?

Why was the program discontinued?

People were getting a little antsy—should we really be doing this? And then there was the identification of the rare side effect, Guillain-Barré Syndrome [in some vaccine recipients]—this is an ascending paralysis that occasionally occurs after viral infection and has not been associated with any other influenza vaccine [nor has it been found to be associated with the COVID-19 vaccines]. But it does appear, from the best assessments, that this was a rare side effect, maybe one in a million. And that occurrence was enough. That, along with the fact that there was no disease, led to the formal abandonment of the program. That was in December.

Then, what happened, as you know, there was a change in presidency—Jimmy Carter was inaugurated in 1977. There was an outbreak of influenza in a nursing home in Florida, not the swine flu, but A/Victoria influenza, the other flu that had been circulating. And the question came up: Should we start using this vaccine we have, to protect against A/Victoria? Because all the vaccines that had been produced that year were combination vaccines, meant to protect against both swine type and A/Victoria.

Did they end up using those doses for the other flu?

Yes, they did. [Editor’s note: And for A/Victoria influenza, at least, the combined vaccine seems to have worked.]