The King James Code

Ransom said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
The literal translation would be more like "correctly partitioning".

Literally, orthotomeo means "straight cutting." "Rightly" in the KJV is more closely related to "upright" than "correct." Commentaries I've read suggest that the picture is of a ploughman cutting proper, straight furrows in a field. (That is, he's not some silly hyper-Dispensationalist feeding the Scriptures into a cross-cut shredder, which would be more akin to ploughing wavy-gravy lines in the field while DUI.)

Regardless, it has nothing to do with math or numbers.
 
Ransom said:
No, it very isn't.


Yes it is very significant.


Do you not know what the Godhead represents?



Ransom said:
Of course they do. It's a very old word meaning "God-hood," or "the nature of being God," which dates back a thousand years and many people mistakenly think has something to do with a head.  Better to use a synonym such as "Deity" or "divine nature" that most people can understand.


No, it is better to just stick with the rendering in the King James Bible.  The King James Bible is ALWAYS RIGHT.

 
Ransom said:
Paul didn't say "rightly dividing." English didn't even exist in his day.

Well "rightly diving" is the rendering which God's perfect word, the King James Bible gives in 2 Timothy 2:15.


Ransom said:
"Is too!"


Scott, the King James Bible teaches a Pre-trib. Rapture. It is very clear that the Church is not going to go through the time of Jacob's trouble.


In Revelation 4:1 John who is part of the body of Christ, is immediately in the spirit and is in heaven after he hears the words:  "Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."


It is a clear picture of the Rapture of the Body of Christ.
 
Biblebeliever said:
Yes it is very significant.

Translation: "Is too!"

Do you not know what the Godhead represents?

LOL! You actually quoted it:

Ransom said:
It's a very old word meaning "God-hood," or "the nature of being God," which dates back a thousand years and many people mistakenly think has something to do with a head.  Better to use a synonym such as "Deity" or "divine nature" that most people can understand.

No, it is better to just stick with the rendering in the King James Bible.  The King James Bible is ALWAYS RIGHT.

"Is too!"

You are probably the most monotonous "defender" of the KJV I have ever read. You have nothing to present but your own unsupported assertions.
 
Well "rightly diving" is the rendering which God's perfect word, the King James Bible gives in 2 Timothy 2:15.

"Is too!"

Scott, the King James Bible teaches a Pre-trib. Rapture. It is very clear that the Church is not going to go through the time of Jacob's trouble.

"Is too!"

In Revelation 4:1 .  . .

It is a clear picture of the Rapture of the Body of Christ.

"Is too!".
 
rsc2a said:
My point is that your "proof" vis-a-vis the rapture is a non-sequitur. As to when it will occur, I don't worry about it. I try to live every day for God regardless of when He returns. (And I assume that your understanding of the parousia is a lot different than mine.)


Okay, and continue living for God and Serve Him with fear and trembling. Because the Rapture is so very close.


rsc2a said:


Well I looked up that link which you gave. And this is what I found:  List of most widely spoken languages (by number of countries)


And do you know which Language is at the Number 1 Rank? Well if you don't, then just click on the link below to find out:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_widely_spoken_languages_(by_number_of_countries)



rsc2a said:
No thanks. You are the one who said you are using "the definition of a perfect Bible according to the Scripture".

I'm simply asking you to provide chapter and verse, something you haven't done. You've given me plenty of verses where God says his word is perfect, but not that actually define what that means.

Yes I have provided you with Scripture where it says God


Psalm 19:7
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul:
the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.


Psalm 33:4
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 For the word of the Lord is right;
and all his works are done in truth.


Psalm 119:128
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
128 Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right;
and I hate every false way.


2 Samuel 22:31
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
31 As for God, his way is perfect;
the word of the Lord is tried:
he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.


Psalm 18:30
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
30 As for God, his way is perfect:
the word of the Lord is tried:
he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.



Psalm 12:6-7
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 The words of the Lord are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord,
thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.



Proverbs 30:5-6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
5 Every word of God is pure:
he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words,
lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.



John 17:17
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.


Those Scriptures clearly teach that the word of God is pure, inerrant and perfect.

Every word of God is pure.

The Bible is the pure, perfect, infallible, and inerrant word of God. And I have it. Praise be to God Almighty.



rsc2a said:
You defend the King Jimmy because you believe it doesn't attack the deity of Jesus in certain passages because it uses phrasing that clearly affirms the deity of Jesus where the other translations do not. Yet you attack other translations because they use phrasing in certain passages that clearly affirms the deity of Jesus where the King Jimmy is much less clear.

In short, you are applying a double standard.


King Jimmy??? Who is King Jimmy???

I know who King James is, but not king jimmy.


I defend the King James Bible because it exalts the Lord Jesus Christ. The King James Bible is the God honoured text.


And the modern Vatican versions such as the NIV (Non Inspired Version), ESV (Ecumenical Satanic Vacuum), NASB (New American Satanic Bible), etc.  attack the deity and person of the Lord Jesus Christ. And this fact has been proved time and time again. And yet Lukewarm, carnal Christians still prefer these Vatican and satanic bibles.



rsc2a said:
You don't know anything about Arian and/or Gnostic beliefs, do you?


Sure I do. Arianism is the heretical teaching that the Son of God did not always exist, but had a beginning.


Arius was the heretic which taught that God the Father and the Son did not exist together eternally.


rsc2a said:
Simple. Does your KJV look like this?

You are aware that the English Language in 1611 was a bit different than it is today don't you??? For one English Spelling in 1611 had not yet been standardized.


rsc2a said:
And you still haven't addressed all the posts I've provided where another Bible-code KJVo-ist says that 5 is the number for death. You keep saying it's the number for grace. Both of you have about the same amount of validity regarding this point and it's really going to affect how you interpret your code. (i.e. none at all)


Well I most likely missed them. Why don't you send me a link to those posts where you mentioned this.
 
Biblebeliever said:
I defend the King James Bible because it exalts the Lord Jesus Christ. The King James Bible is the God honoured text.


And the modern Vatican versions such as the NIV (Non Inspired Version), ESV (Ecumenical Satanic Vacuum), NASB (New American Satanic Bible), etc.  attack the deity and person of the Lord Jesus Christ. And this fact has been proved time and time again. And yet Lukewarm, carnal Christians still prefer these Vatican and satanic bibles.

Calling the ESV and NASB Satanic is blasphemy. Especially since they have identical verses to your precious KJV.

I Thessalonians 5:16 (KJV) - pray without ceasing; I Thessalonians 5:16 (NASB) - pray without ceasing;
I Thessalonians 5:25 (KJV) - Brethren, pray for us. I Thessalonians 5:25 (NASB) - Brethren, pray for us.

And of course there are identical verses in the NIV and the ESV as well.
 
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