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If they want to collect they better hurry. Indiana has a 6 year statute of limitation on un-acted on debt.
cast.sheep said:Ok....I have a lot to say about this...but I will try to keep it short.
1. The first year of Jericho the Jericho students were herded into the dining hall and had a contract placed in front of them and told to sign it. They did NOT have an opportunity to read it thoroughly or have their parents read it or have an attorney read it. They trusted their "authority" and signed a document they did not understand because they were forced to do so. That is illegal. Don't get all technical with the word "forced". If you were there during that time, you know it was forced. Not physically...no one held their hand down...but it was forced nonetheless. Now, how they handled the contract after that first year, I do not know.
2. The college breached the contract in several ways. Not the least of which is that the program changed regularly. They were not offered a new contract when things changed. Another example: after watching the program failing, JS got up in chapel and threw a temper tantrum and told the students that they could leave and not repay the program. If they weren't serious, he wanted them out. Surely someone, somewhere has a recording of that chapel "sermon".
Our son went all the way through the Jericho program to graduation...and, yes, the bill was paid in full by my son...including all the things they added on that we not in the contract. I could tell you stories. Remember, they were making up the Jericho Plan as they went along. A lot of things changed from the first year to the last.
I know several people who got that letter...and some are pretty big names. When one pastor called JS personally, his friend, about the fact that the Jericho program hurt their son, he was told that there was nothing wrong with the program....they (the college) were sent flawed material. Yes, those are the exact words that were used. "Flawed material".
The Jericho Plan was a disaster from the very beginning. I know. We were there for the implementation. The staff had no idea what they were doing and they were making the "plan" up as they went along. The didn't have enough staff to handle the regulations of the program and the students had WAAAAAAY too much time on their hands. They weren't allowed to get jobs back in the beginning and they weren't allowed to even SPEAK to the opposite sex for the first six weeks. These are the same kids that were told that they shouldn't date in high school and should wait til college to do it. Then....when they got to college, they weren't allowed to date then either! What a psychotic place. Not at all...in any way, shape, or form...the same college we went to in the early 80's.
Norefund said:I still don't see the tie in with a Biblical supernatural battle. Maybe it should have been named the Fantastic Four plan, although that would be a little too Marvel comics-ish for HAC.
cast.sheep said:Perhaps I do not understand, but it looks like the date of this advertisement was October 31, 2010. The first year of the Jericho Plan started in the fall of 2008.qwerty said:https://web.archive.org/web/20101031224114/http://hylesanderson.edu/the-jericho-plan/
The links for testimonial and brochure work.
When JS first shared his dream called The Jericho Plan with the staff, it did sound somewhat feasible. He based the whole plan on his own experience at Pillsbury. His parents paid for his first two years so he didn't have to work and had time to study and spend time with God. He claimed it was the foundation of his future success. He wanted other students to have that same opportunity. It all sounded good. None of the details were even remotely figured out when the plan went into full motion. The first year was...well...chaotic. Because so many students were pushed there...they went not because they wanted to but because that was the only option presented to them... there weren't a whole lot who had a sincere desire to study or spend time with God. Like typical freshmen, they were more interested in dating, sports, etc. The staff was stretched to the limit. It was impossible to enforce all of the rules of the program, especially seeings it was a work in progress and rules were changed nearly every day.
And, yes, their entire day was regulated. Their dorm supe would wake them up to read their Bibles. lol..... Most went back to sleep after dorm supe left. You just can't regulate spirituality.
qwerty said:I do understand about having a schedule, I do not see anything "cultic" about it. I saw the schedule, there was plenty of free time for students to do what they want, this was just to help prevent a lot of idle time and schedule time for studies (Bible and class).
Walt said:qwerty said:I do understand about having a schedule, I do not see anything "cultic" about it. I saw the schedule, there was plenty of free time for students to do what they want, this was just to help prevent a lot of idle time and schedule time for studies (Bible and class).
Maybe you can help me out -- what is the difference between having "plenty of free time" and trying to "prevent a lot of idle time"??
kaba said:My son attended a Southern Baptist University. PArt of the tuition was an Ipad-if you stayed four years the Ipad was yours, if you left early you paid $200 and it was yours. Good plan I thought.
Bible College should consist of classes, ministry, work and free time. But that wasnt HAC! In the early 80's the WHOLE weekend was bus ministry. I think if it had been balanced it would have been a whole lot better!
kaba said:My son attended a Southern Baptist University. PArt of the tuition was an Ipad-if you stayed four years the Ipad was yours, if you left early you paid $200 and it was yours. Good plan I thought.
Bible College should consist of classes, ministry, work and free time. But that wasnt HAC! In the early 80's the WHOLE weekend was bus ministry. I think if it had been balanced it would have been a whole lot better!
qwerty said:cast.sheep said:Perhaps I do not understand, but it looks like the date of this advertisement was October 31, 2010. The first year of the Jericho Plan started in the fall of 2008.qwerty said:https://web.archive.org/web/20101031224114/http://hylesanderson.edu/the-jericho-plan/
The links for testimonial and brochure work.
When JS first shared his dream called The Jericho Plan with the staff, it did sound somewhat feasible. He based the whole plan on his own experience at Pillsbury. His parents paid for his first two years so he didn't have to work and had time to study and spend time with God. He claimed it was the foundation of his future success. He wanted other students to have that same opportunity. It all sounded good. None of the details were even remotely figured out when the plan went into full motion. The first year was...well...chaotic. Because so many students were pushed there...they went not because they wanted to but because that was the only option presented to them... there weren't a whole lot who had a sincere desire to study or spend time with God. Like typical freshmen, they were more interested in dating, sports, etc. The staff was stretched to the limit. It was impossible to enforce all of the rules of the program, especially seeings it was a work in progress and rules were changed nearly every day.
And, yes, their entire day was regulated. Their dorm supe would wake them up to read their Bibles. lol..... Most went back to sleep after dorm supe left. You just can't regulate spirituality.
That is the date of the archive of the website. There are earlier archives: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hylesanderson.edu/the-jericho-plan
There were a couple flaws with the plan that were VERY apparent to myself and others on staff at the time. The first being; according to Schaap's story, his parents paid for the first couple years of his tuition....under the Jerico plan, no one would be paying the first two years. Second, what about the students paying full price because they had to work their butts off, loose time with their families, and have little sleep while others will get a 4 year education for nearly 50% off. It would have made more sense to just lower the tuition fro everyone rather that get bogged down in this mess.
I do understand about having a schedule, I do not see anything "cultic" about it. I saw the schedule, there was plenty of free time for students to do what they want, this was just to help prevent a lot of idle time and schedule time for studies (Bible and class). I think the plan was poorly designed, thought out, and implemented. Fiscally it was a nightmare that the college is just getting out from under, as well as the Macbook mess. It makes sense who was not for it, since their financial genius was quietly moved to another department.
Anyone there would have known what shape the college was in financially. We had great budgets, good salaries (compared to the past), full chapel and classes. The plan opened the floodgates to many young, immature Christians who lacked personal discipline to stick to a schedule,. They were still desiring the "sincere milk of the word", and the college was trying to stuff a prime rib down their gullet.
Allowing students to attend a school without having to pay seemed to really attract some strange ducks...anyone remember Rice Holdout?
Joshua4missions said:Here's a bill I just got in the mail about a month ago. I think I may still have a copy of my Jericho Plan brochure on hand somewhere. I'll dig around for it. I also have a copy of my contract somewhere.
Joshua4missions said:Here's a bill I just got in the mail about a month ago. I think I may still have a copy of my Jericho Plan brochure on hand somewhere. I'll dig around for it. I also have a copy of my contract somewhere.
Tennessean said:Joshua4missions said:Here's a bill I just got in the mail about a month ago. I think I may still have a copy of my Jericho Plan brochure on hand somewhere. I'll dig around for it. I also have a copy of my contract somewhere.
Please post the contract if you can. It would be interesting to see the wording.