The Bible does not command door to door soul-winning

[Timothy]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

For one to obey the "every creature" command should they also tell Lions, Tigers and Bears the gospel? I suppose I could walk up to a squirrel, hand him a nut, and then say, "My dear little creature, the great God above who used me to give you this nut would like to to share with you a special message for all creatures ...." You get the point.

On a serious note, you don't need to physically go door-to-door in a rural community, you could phone call or do a mass mailing.

 

[prophet]

So according to this crowd...you don't knock on doors...you don't mail tracks or materials?

What exactly do you do to reach people for Christ?

They like to go to the local pub or watering hole and knock back some cold ones whilst listening to Stone Temple Pilots and talk about the latest Prayer of Jabez book.

I did that; except it was Pearl Jam 

'Jeremy' creeped me out.  Somebody had company upstairs...

Anishinabe

 

[Torrent v.2]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Wtyson is a sincere man of God that attempts to be faithful to what God has called him to do.  He doesn't insult or goad people.  He's a class act.

Do you defend people when they makes fools of themselves?

 

[JrChurch]

Do you defend people when they makes fools of themselves?

From what I have observed, Edwards is a gentleman who will not be drawn into petty retorts. 

 

[Torrent v.2]

Do you defend people when they makes fools of themselves?

From what I have observed, Edwards is a gentleman who will not be drawn into petty retorts.

It's not a petty comment.  The man was making a fool of himself.

 

[Frag]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Frag]Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.[/quote]

Have you personally made an effort to knock on every door, or are you being intentionally disobedient?

Scratch that...you haven't knocked on my door. Why do you hate God so much?

 

[groupie]

The Bible commands us to live a life that "knocks on doors" of opportunity that He opens. If door to door soul winning is acceptable in your area and you choose to do it, then so be it. It is neither right nor wrong.

 

[BALAAM]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

I will decipher this for some of you that do not speak ifb.  'I know what all the problems are in christianity and amongst christian groups and none of the problems have anything to do with me.'

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

We have some SBC churches down here who go door to door....as do a few IFBs.....and the Jehovah's Witnesses!
Halumeluger!

 

[prophet]

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

It really doesn't. Our best example of instructions on how to do it is when Jesus sent out the 12 and the 70 (don't remember which came first), and that wasn't part of the orders for either mission.

  You mean Matthew 10:12?  "And when ye come into a house, salute it."
Or 10:13, or 10:14  where he says 'house'? 
  No, door to door 'soulwinning' isn't commanded, but finding and entering the house of those who receive your witness, is. 
  God has led people across my path in every setting imaginable, and I have planted, watered and reaped...including door to door.
  Of course, once you lead the key person in a 'house' (family) to the Lord, and begin to disciple them, you then let them lead you to all of their family and friends, until they are trained enough to do it themself.  Then you enter and salute a new house.  But that's just my favorite way, it's the personality God gave me, and He keeps leading me to the next one all of the time, about the pace of  one a month.

Anishinabe

 

[Torrent v.2]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

Prove, from the Scri[tures, that it is required, please.

 

[Frag]

[quote author=Frag]Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

Have you personally made an effort to knock on every door, or are you being intentionally disobedient?

Scratch that...you haven't knocked on my door. Why do you hate God so much?
[/quote]

God works through the local church.  An assembly working to reach their Jerusalem, while also influencing their Judea, Samaria, and uttermost is God's plan.

A proper answer to your question is no, personally I have not.  But our local assembly does knock on every door in a fifteen mile radius from our church every year.  The Gospel is personally delivered, either in written form or personally if they are home and will listen. 

We are a rural church.  The mile radius might have to differ from church to church.  Just imagine every gospel preaching church in America claiming its Jerusalem -- saturating a geographical circle of our country and delivering the gospel to every door.  Christ's commandment would be fulfilled in most areas of our nation. 

We have about 100 people that go out every week.  2 hours is the average.  Is that really asking too much?  That is 200 hours total a week.  Do that consistently and you will consistently see the fruit of those visits. 

Or you can spend your time on forum sites mocking those who go soul winning.  Now, who is being disobedient?

God's plan still works.  If you work it. 

 

[Frag]

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

It really doesn't. Our best example of instructions on how to do it is when Jesus sent out the 12 and the 70 (don't remember which came first), and that wasn't part of the orders for either mission.

  You mean Matthew 10:12?  "And when ye come into a house, salute it."
Or 10:13, or 10:14  where he says 'house'? 
  No, door to door 'soulwinning' isn't commanded, but finding and entering the house of those who receive your witness, is. 
  God has led people across my path in every setting imaginable, and I have planted, watered and reaped...including door to door.
  Of course, once you lead the key person in a 'house' (family) to the Lord, and begin to disciple them, you then let them lead you to all of their family and friends, until they are trained enough to do it themself.  Then you enter and salute a new house.  But that's just my favorite way, it's the personality God gave me, and He keeps leading me to the next one all of the time, about the pace of  one a month.

Anishinabe

Agreed.  But to find out which house receives your witness -- wouldn't that require KNOCKING on the ALL doors and finding out.  Or do you just walk down the street and stare at every door until you tingle? 

 

[Frag]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

Prove, from the Scri[tures, that it is required, please.

Mark 16:15 (KJV)
15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

There you go.  Now I ask you again, how do we saturate the world with the Gospel without every church taking responsibility for it's Jerusalem, claiming a reasonable geographical area, and sending its members to the homes to personally take the gospel to every home.

Get out an atlas.  Find your city.  Draw a circle and shade it in.  Then imagine if EVERY church in America did that.  Very few areas would remain unsaturated.  Those that would be -- well, that is why the word "both" is in Acts 1:8 -- but that is a whole different subject.  Don't imagine your church will do "both" if they are willing to sit and let their own neighborhood go to hell. 

 

[Frag]

I just read most the of the thread at the other forum where Wtyson and Invictus argued.  Vic was out of hand with his name calling, but he is right. Absolutely.

The bible does not command people to go door to door soul winning.  It only commands us to preach the gospel to all nations.

Vic made me laugh.  Wtyson looked like a fool for not just admitting that it does not say that.

The title of the thread is Tebow.

Honest question. 

In our rural community, if I am to obey the "every creature" command, how do I get the gospel to "every creature" -- achieve gospel saturation -- without going door to door?

Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

We have some SBC churches down here who go door to door....as do a few IFBs.....and the Jehovah's Witnesses!
Halumeluger!

Sad.  JFWs have enough sense to steal God's method and use it to effectively spread their false message, yet most Christians won't take the truth of the Gospel to their neighbors. 

 

[Frag]

Enough forum time for now.  Gotta study for Sunday, then go soul winning!!!  Yep.  Door to door....





...why don't you try it.  Find that old NT you used to use before you backslid, dust it off, get a handful of tracts, pray for the fulness of the HOLY Spirit, put a smile on your face, and go knock on a couple of blocks in your community.  Something good is bound to happen!!!

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Frag]Interesting.  Besides Timothy's answer of junk mail or tele-marketing evangelism (sure folks would appreciate both!), no serious answer.  To "every house" worked for the early church.  Still works today.  Most people in our area are not offended if you knock on their front door and to talk to them.  Those who are....well, do you really think you can give the gospel to people and no one ever take offense????

Admit it.  Bunch of excuses from a bunch of lazy Christians who want a Christianity that involves no inconvenience, no self-denial, no cross, and labor.  Four visitors sat in our church Sunday morning -- God used door to door visitation to reach each one.  If you want to add other outreach methods to this, fine.  But door to door visitation is required to OBEY the mandate of Christ to deliver the gospel to every creature.

Have you personally made an effort to knock on every door, or are you being intentionally disobedient?

Scratch that...you haven't knocked on my door. Why do you hate God so much?

God works through the local church.  An assembly working to reach their Jerusalem, while also influencing their Judea, Samaria, and uttermost is God's plan.

A proper answer to your question is no, personally I have not.  But our local assembly does knock on every door in a fifteen mile radius from our church every year.  The Gospel is personally delivered, either in written form or personally if they are home and will listen. 

We are a rural church.  The mile radius might have to differ from church to church.  Just imagine every gospel preaching church in America claiming its Jerusalem -- saturating a geographical circle of our country and delivering the gospel to every door.  Christ's commandment would be fulfilled in most areas of our nation. [/quote]

I do (try to) work in my Jerusalem. Do you know what my Jerusalem is? It's my neighbors, my co-workers, the people who serve at my favorite restaurants...

My Jerusalem is not the house five blocks over, the one whose occupants I have never met.

(Of course, we have extremely different views on what the "Gospel" is. Personally, I (and my kids) are acutely aware that buying groceries for the neighbors who cannot afford to eat are delivering the "Gospel".

[quote author=Frag]We have about 100 people that go out every week.  2 hours is the average.  Is that really asking too much?  That is 200 hours total a week.  Do that consistently and you will consistently see the fruit of those visits. 

Or you can spend your time on forum sites mocking those who go soul winning.  Now, who is being disobedient? [/quote]

You and I also have widely different ideas about what salvation is. (Hint: It's not something that just happens with a 1-2-3 pray after me conversation.)

[quote author=Frag]God's plan still works.  If you work it. [/quote]

Absolutely. No reason to add a bunch of rules to it.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Torrent v.2]Prove, from the Scri[tures, that ["soulwinning"] is required, please.

Mark 16:15 (KJV)
15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

There you go.  Now I ask you again, how do we saturate the world with the Gospel without every church taking responsibility for it's Jerusalem, claiming a reasonable geographical area, and sending its members to the homes to personally take the gospel to every home.

Get out an atlas.  Find your city.  Draw a circle and shade it in.  Then imagine if EVERY church in America did that.  Very few areas would remain unsaturated.  Those that would be -- well, that is why the word "both" is in Acts 1:8 -- but that is a whole different subject.  Don't imagine your church will do "both" if they are willing to sit and let their own neighborhood go to hell.
[/quote]

The verse doesn't say to preach the gospel to everyone within a circle that you've shaded. It says to preach the gospel to every creature. Why are you suggesting disobedience to Scripture?

 

[Frag]

[quote author=Torrent v.2]Prove, from the Scri[tures, that ["soulwinning"] is required, please.

Mark 16:15 (KJV)
15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

There you go.  Now I ask you again, how do we saturate the world with the Gospel without every church taking responsibility for it's Jerusalem, claiming a reasonable geographical area, and sending its members to the homes to personally take the gospel to every home.

Get out an atlas.  Find your city.  Draw a circle and shade it in.  Then imagine if EVERY church in America did that.  Very few areas would remain unsaturated.  Those that would be -- well, that is why the word "both" is in Acts 1:8 -- but that is a whole different subject.  Don't imagine your church will do "both" if they are willing to sit and let their own neighborhood go to hell.

The verse doesn't say to preach the gospel to everyone within a circle that you've shaded. It says to preach the gospel to every creature. Why are you suggesting disobedience to Scripture?
[/quote]

He also wasn't talking to one person, he was talking to a group. 

Don't mind having a thoughtful discussion, but someone like you who chooses to be "willingly ignorant" and just argues for the sake of it -- to busy to waste my time.

Groceries are the gospel?  You are an idiot.