So close your eyes and tell me.......

[16KJV11]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

So what does this have to do with making adult choices?  Why would a pastor or even parents have rule over adults  when it comes to making career and marriage decisions. Do you really believe that this verse teaches that a pastor can dictate to people how to live their lives?  What we should strive for is having enough respect from our adult children that they consider our advice but are capable of making the best decision for themselves. My sons give me joy and not grief because they are good men capable of making solid decisions even when it is not what I would chose.

Actually there is safety in a multitude of counselors, but when making life decisions, it might be wise to consult with someone who has a vested interest in your soul.  JMHOFWIW. 

 

[Bruh]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

I know every pastor is different and I am not throwing all in one basket.

Someone told me once that, it is very dangerous to put your life in the hands of another man. 

I believe there are times when I personally would go to my pastor and discuss certain things but I do not make it a habit and honestly I rarely talk to him about decisions I make.  Not because we have a bad relationship but I just don't see the need to pass everything by him. 

And I assume you wouldn't want your members to pass everything by you as well. 

It has been my experience that it CAN be very hard once a person begins to allow a pastor inn, on all decisions.

But, we are talking about a high school senior going to their pastor to get his counsel in the direction they should take after graduation. 

I guess my thing is this, if that teenager has parents that walk with the Lord why would they need to seek the pastors counsel?  Obviously, the parents will be more in tune to their child than the pastor would be.

I have had mixed feels about this type stuff for years maybe you can help.

I'm glad you chimed in!

And others as well, feel free to respond.  Thanks!         

 

[Bruh]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

And this would INCLUDE parents as well, RIGHT?  Children should obey their parents and submit to them BECAUSE we watch for their souls.  Right? 

 

[rsc2a]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

The exact verse that kept my family in a bad church for far too long...

 

[LongGone]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

So what does this have to do with making adult choices?  Why would a pastor or even parents have rule over adults  when it comes to making career and marriage decisions. Do you really believe that this verse teaches that a pastor can dictate to people how to live their lives?  What we should strive for is having enough respect from our adult children that they consider our advice but are capable of making the best decision for themselves. My sons give me joy and not grief because they are good men capable of making solid decisions even when it is not what I would chose.

Actually there is safety in a multitude of counselors, but when making life decisions, it might be wise to consult with someone who has a vested interest in your soul.  JMHOFWIW.

Consulting with is a far cry from people or parents telling young adults what they must do.  There is safety in a multitude of counselors because you will get different opinions and even opposing opinions. You weigh these as you make a decision.

 

[16KJV11]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

So what does this have to do with making adult choices?  Why would a pastor or even parents have rule over adults  when it comes to making career and marriage decisions. Do you really believe that this verse teaches that a pastor can dictate to people how to live their lives?  What we should ystrive for is having enough respect from our adult children that they consider our advice but are capable of making the best decision for themselves. My sons give me joy and not grief because they are good men capable of making solid decisions even when it is not what I would chose.

Actually there is safety in a multitude of counselors, but when making life decisions, it might be wise to consult with someone who has a vested interest in your soul.  JMHOFWIW.

Consulting with is a far cry from people or parents telling young adults what they must do.  There is safety in a multitude of counselors because you will get different opinions and even opposing opinions. You weigh these as you make a decision.

That is kind of what I was inferring.   

 

[rsc2a]

Of course they should.  Pastorâ„¢ is a super spiritual person and should be everyone's primary source of information opinion. Parents,  teachers,  other church members... they aren't even worthy of consideration in the shining light of Pastor'sâ„¢ greatness.

 

[Fresh Air]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

I know every pastor is different and I am not throwing all in one basket.

Someone told me once that, it is very dangerous to put your life in the hands of another man. 

I believe there are times when I personally would go to my pastor and discuss certain things but I do not make it a habit and honestly I rarely talk to him about decisions I make.  Not because we have a bad relationship but I just don't see the need to pass everything by him. 

And I assume you wouldn't want your members to pass everything by you as well. 

It has been my experience that it CAN be very hard once a person begins to allow a pastor inn, on all decisions.

But, we are talking about a high school senior going to their pastor to get his counsel in the direction they should take after graduation. 

I guess my thing is this, if that teenager has parents that walk with the Lord why would they need to seek the pastors counsel?  Obviously, the parents will be more in tune to their child than the pastor would be.

I have had mixed feels about this type stuff for years maybe you can help.

I'm glad you chimed in!

And others as well, feel free to respond.  Thanks!       

That was a fairly intelligent response. You were obviously trying not to give a knee jerk reaction. I did not say that I want to make any decisions for the young person, let alone a bunch more of their decisions but I would most definitely want to meet with them. Why? For several reasons...

-I have been their pastor for a lengthy period. I have watched them grow up. I have invested a tremendous amount of love, prayer, care, time, study, and work in their life. I want - no, let me say what I really think - I deserve the right to have some input on the course of their life. I do not deserve the right to make their decision. I do not deserve the right to have more input than their parents. But I do deserve the right to be heard. I've earned it with a lifetime's worth of work.
-Proverbs makes it crystal clear that young people need wisdom above all, and that they don't have it. Thus, it calls them to seek counsel. The younger you are and the more major your decision the more important it is that you seek counsel. A pastor is not the only counselor you should talk to, but he is godly, he knows and loves you, and he has experience in watching people make both good and bad decisions. It is highly logical to seek his counsel in this situation.
-Simply, and most importantly, to protect yourself from making an awful decision. My concept of counsel (which is not everybody's, granted) is to hear a person's thinking/approach and then to tell them if some of it is dangerous, unscriptural, or unwise. I do not nor do I want to make decisions. I'm a sounding board to make sure their perspective isn't skewed in some radically dangerous way. And everybody needs that occasionally, depending again on their age and the relative importance of their decision.

 

[Fresh Air]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

And this would INCLUDE parents as well, RIGHT?  Children should obey their parents and submit to them BECAUSE we watch for their souls.  Right?

...even more than a pastor, yes.

 

[RAIDER]

That was a fairly intelligent response. You were obviously trying not to give a knee jerk reaction. I did not say that I want to make any decisions for the young person, let alone a bunch more of their decisions but I would most definitely want to meet with them. Why? For several reasons...

-I have been their pastor for a lengthy period. I have watched them grow up. I have invested a tremendous amount of love, prayer, care, time, study, and work in their life. I want - no, let me say what I really think - I deserve the right to have some input on the course of their life. I do not deserve the right to make their decision. I do not deserve the right to have more input than their parents. But I do deserve the right to be heard. I've earned it with a lifetime's worth of work.
-Proverbs makes it crystal clear that young people need wisdom above all, and that they don't have it. Thus, it calls them to seek counsel. The younger you are and the more major your decision the more important it is that you seek counsel. A pastor is not the only counselor you should talk to, but he is godly, he knows and loves you, and he has experience in watching people make both good and bad decisions. It is highly logical to seek his counsel in this situation.
-Simply, and most importantly, to protect yourself from making an awful decision. My concept of counsel (which is not everybody's, granted) is to hear a person's thinking/approach and then to tell them if some of it is dangerous, unscriptural, or unwise. I do not nor do I want to make decisions. I'm a sounding board to make sure their perspective isn't skewed in some radically dangerous way. And everybody needs that occasionally, depending again on their age and the relative importance of their decision.

If the pastor is an "overseer" he should have the input that Tom described.

 

[16KJV11]

Of course they should.  Pastorâ„¢ is a super spiritual person and should be everyone's primary source of information opinion. Parents,  teachers,  other church members... they aren't even worthy of consideration in the shining light of Pastor'sâ„¢ greatness.

Time to let the bitterness from past hurts go.  You make sense sometimes but unfortunately you have evolved into a haughty scorner. 

 

[rsc2a]

Of course they should.  Pastorâ„¢ is a super spiritual person and should be everyone's primary source of information opinion. Parents,  teachers,  other church members... they aren't even worthy of consideration in the shining light of Pastor'sâ„¢ greatness.

Time to let the bitterness from past hurts go.  You make sense sometimes but unfortunately you have evolved into a haughty scorner.

Interesting.  All the "pastors" seen to think they are more important than everyone else should definitely be asked whereas everyone else seems to think it's circumstantial.

 

[RAIDER]

Of course they should.  Pastorâ„¢ is a super spiritual person and should be everyone's primary source of information opinion. Parents,  teachers,  other church members... they aren't even worthy of consideration in the shining light of Pastor'sâ„¢ greatness.

Time to let the bitterness from past hurts go.  You make sense sometimes but unfortunately you have evolved into a haughty scorner.

Interesting.  All the "pastors" seen to think they are more important than everyone else should definitely be asked whereas everyone else seems to think it's circumstantial.

Or could it be that your opinions are constantly scornful?

 

[16KJV11]

Of course they should.  Pastorâ„¢ is a super spiritual person and should be everyone's primary source of information opinion. Parents,  teachers,  other church members... they aren't even worthy of consideration in the shining light of Pastor'sâ„¢ greatness.

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Time to let the bitterness from past hurts go.  You make sense sometimes but unfortunately you have evolved into a haughty scorner.

Interesting.  All the "pastors" seen to think they are more important than everyone else should definitely be asked whereas everyone else seems to think it's circumstantial.

Judge much?

 

[rsc2a]

I'm not judging.  I'm simply looking at what people have actually written in their replies.

 

[Tennessean]

I hear Dr. Hyles say, "There is a (make of car) parked illegally in the parking lot across the street. You need to move it or the police will move it for you."

Seriously, at what other church would you hear that?

 

[RAIDER]

If I close my eyes this time of year and think of HAC I can't help but remember bus calling in the cold and snow.  It was very rare that bus calling was cancelled.

 

[RAIDER]

If I close my eyes this time of year and think of HAC I can't help but remember bus calling in the cold and snow.  It was very rare that bus calling was cancelled.

Do any of you remember being invited to eat supper on a Saturday evening with a bus family.  I do believe it was against the rules, but boy were those tacos great!

 

[fishinnut]

If I close my eyes this time of year and think of HAC I can't help but remember bus calling in the cold and snow.  It was very rare that bus calling was cancelled.

No chitlins?
Do any of you remember being invited to eat supper on a Saturday evening with a bus family.  I do believe it was against the rules, but boy were those tacos great!

 

[16KJV11]

If I close my eyes this time of year and think of HAC I can't help but remember bus calling in the cold and snow.  It was very rare that bus calling was cancelled.

Do any of you remember being invited to eat supper on a Saturday evening with a bus family.  I do believe it was against the rules, but boy were those tacos great!

Never knew it was verboten!  Guess I broke the rules more than I thought! ???