So close your eyes and tell me.......

[BALAAM]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

When I was at fbch Jack H talked about senior appointments like it was automatic. You pay your rent every month, you go on your ministry every weekend, and when you are a senior Zippity do da. But, two of my kids could not get senior appointments. They would have one and it would be cancelled or postponed and then cancelled again. I told my youngest one to just chalk it up as another dose of bs.

 

[16KJV11]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

Well, Schaap was a, cough cough...hands on preacher... ;D  Sorry...couldn't resist!

 

[prophet]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

We were turned over to Dave, and others, and couldn't get to Bro. Hyles.
I saw him once growing up, and he ignored the reason for my appointment, and chewed me out about something that I didn't know I had done (Dr. Auc. being Dr.Auc.), and I walked out telling myself that I was alone on this planet, to face my problems.

 

[Bruh]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor. JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

I'm sorry, but I will never understand this mentality.  I just don't get it?

 

[Bruh]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

When I was at fbch Jack H talked about senior appointments like it was automatic. You pay your rent every month, you go on your ministry every weekend, and when you are a senior Zippity do da. But, two of my kids could not get senior appointments. They would have one and it would be cancelled or postponed and then cancelled again. I told my youngest one to just chalk it up as another dose of bs.

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation? 

 

[IFB X-Files]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

While there is nothing wrong with that (with the parents permission), the parents should have more influence and the final say.

 

[BALAAM]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

When I was at fbch Jack H talked about senior appointments like it was automatic. You pay your rent every month, you go on your ministry every weekend, and when you are a senior Zippity do da. But, two of my kids could not get senior appointments. They would have one and it would be cancelled or postponed and then cancelled again. I told my youngest one to just chalk it up as another dose of bs.

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

Shoot: Every high school kid talks to a counselor. I certainly did back in the 70's. Why not talk to your pastor?

 

[rsc2a]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

While there is nothing wrong with that (with the parents permission), the parents should have more influence and the final say.

The senior should have the final say.  :-\

 

[Bruh]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

When I was at fbch Jack H talked about senior appointments like it was automatic. You pay your rent every month, you go on your ministry every weekend, and when you are a senior Zippity do da. But, two of my kids could not get senior appointments. They would have one and it would be cancelled or postponed and then cancelled again. I told my youngest one to just chalk it up as another dose of bs.

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

Shoot: Every high school kid talks to a counselor. I certainly did back in the 70's. Why not talk to your pastor?

I guess the counselor would be more in tune, than a teenagers pastor.  The counselor should be keeping up with the students academics and may even give them some sort of personality test, to see where they would be able to use many of their gifts.

I'm not saying it is wrong but I'm not to sure that it should be expected.   

Now if the pastor is going to recommend the student to go to a bible college like HAC or Golden State or Grace then maybe that would boost the teenagers academic confidence since these colleges are nothing more than adult Sunday school classes. LOL!! I'm sorry I couldn't resist. 

 

[LongGone]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

While there is nothing wrong with that (with the parents permission), the parents should have more influence and the final say.

The senior should have the final say.  :-\

Thank you.  I never have understood the obsession with trying to tell your kids what they are going to do.  As long as what they want is neither illegal or immoral why not just be supportive?

 

[Fresh Air]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

 

[IFB X-Files]

The senior should have the final say.  :-\

Oops!  My bad!  I didn't realize the senior was paying all the bills. 

So let me correct my previous comment to include that the parents have the final say IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. 

If that is unacceptable to the kid, then he/she is on their own and God bless'em.

 

[bgwilkinson]

If you're talking about the original auditorium, it's possible the musty smell came from the water damage when the fire was put out.  They didn't replace the green carpet, just dried it out. 

The only smell I really remember is when we had church at the Civic Center & the circus was in town.  ;D

Seems that when we were meeting in the Civic Center while the auditorium was doubled, many changes started to take effect.  I remember Bro Fisk bapitzing in the Civic Center pool and rarely would Bro Hyles baptize after moving into the "new" auditorium.  It's a shame that two generations missed out on being baptized by their pastor.  JH's excuse was that he had sooo many wanting to see him for counseling outside his door, that it'd take too much time to baptize and counsel.  He may have messed up on his priorities.  The teens of the 80's and 90's are the kids who couldn't wait to escape FBC----this is the same time period when we didn't have a hands-on pastor.  Did it go hand-in-hand?  I think so-IMHO.

When I was at fbch Jack H talked about senior appointments like it was automatic. You pay your rent every month, you go on your ministry every weekend, and when you are a senior Zippity do da. But, two of my kids could not get senior appointments. They would have one and it would be cancelled or postponed and then cancelled again. I told my youngest one to just chalk it up as another dose of bs.

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

Shoot: Every high school kid talks to a counselor. I certainly did back in the 70's. Why not talk to your pastor?

Well if that pastor has a college that is in constant need of money (students) he will not be able to be completely objective.

He will have a conflict of interest and an unavoidable bias.

He should recuse himself and recommend an unbiased advisor.

 

[rsc2a]

The senior should have the final say.  :-\

Oops!  My bad!  I didn't realize the senior was paying all the bills. 

So let me correct my previous comment to include that the parents have the final say IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. 

No, they don't. Why in the world should a parent have the final say in what career their adult children will have? What's next? They have final say in what job the child accepts? They have a say in who the individual marries? How the child disciplines their own children? Where they live?

[quote author=IFB X-Files]If that is unacceptable to the kid, then he/she is on their own and God bless'em.[/quote]

That's perfectly acceptable. The parent doesn't owe the child a college education. However, if the parent chooses to give a gift to their adult child, they should stop with the helicoptering.

"Hey kid! I love you this much! I'm going to withhold a gift I would have given you...a gift that would have potentially bettered your life in significant ways. And the reason I'm doing it is because you are actually acting like an adult and  not obeying my own whims and how I've plotted out the rest of your life. And this is what love is!"

What a fantastic model of the heavenly Father or something like that.

 

[IFB X-Files]

They have a say in who the individual marries?

Absolutely.  We do not stand around and just watch our kids make horrible blunders without being involved.  If they choose to ignore our input then the peril is on them.  Fortunately our kids seek out our advice.

 

[SwampHag]

...a little kid running up to me and asking "Would you like to buy a delicious candy bar?"

 

[rsc2a]

They have a say in who the individual marries?

Absolutely.  We do not stand around and just watch our kids make horrible blunders without being involved.  If they choose to ignore our input then the peril is on them.  Fortunately our kids seek out our advice.

Personally,  I want my children to be independent,  free-thinking,  capable,  responsible adults.  But if you want to raise perpetual teenagers, fine by me.

I just hope I've taught my daughter well enough that she can avoid your dependent man-child when she begins looking for someone to grow old with.  Last thing she needs is for her husband to ask daddy's permission better they start having babies.

 

[LongGone]

The senior should have the final say.  :-\

Oops!  My bad!  I didn't realize the senior was paying all the bills. 

So let me correct my previous comment to include that the parents have the final say IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. 

If that is unacceptable to the kid, then he/she is on their own and God bless'em.

Once again why would I not support them if I can afford it if what they want to do is neither illegal or immoral? I raised my boys to be good men able to make good decisions.

 

[16KJV11]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

 

[LongGone]

I'm curious, do any on here believe that a senior in high school should go and talk to their pastor about the direction they should take after graduation?

...with all my heart

seconded...
Hebrews 13:17 (KJV)
17  Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

So what does this have to do with making adult choices?  Why would a pastor or even parents have rule over adults  when it comes to making career and marriage decisions. Do you really believe that this verse teaches that a pastor can dictate to people how to live their lives?  What we should strive for is having enough respect from our adult children that they consider our advice but are capable of making the best decision for themselves. My sons give me joy and not grief because they are good men capable of making solid decisions even when it is not what I would chose.