Partial Text of Linda Murphrey's letter to FBCH

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The rest of the open letter...


Jack Schaap will be sentenced to prison this week and, as I type this, I am weeping for him and for my sister. When I think of him sitting in a jail cell right now, my heart can hardly handle the ache. Many people have an attitude of,
 
No offense but who cares what Linda says? she is an adult with opinions who cares?
 
Sherryh said:
No offense but who cares what Linda says? she is an adult with opinions who cares?

Well, for you who drank the koolaid and worshipped hyles, she has nothing to say.  You can bash her all you like, but her words make tons of sense, and she has tons of credibility to me.

But to thinking people who want to know what happened to Jack Hyles, and how he ruined what started out as a good ministry, she has a lot to say.
 
Torrent v.2 said:
Sherryh said:
No offense but who cares what Linda says? she is an adult with opinions who cares?

Well, for you who drank the koolaid and worshipped hyles, she has nothing to say.  You can bash her all you like, but her words make tons of sense, and she has tons of credibility to me.

But to thinking people who want to know what happened to Jack Hyles, and how he ruined what started out as a good ministry, she has a lot to say.

You don't even know me..........I never drank any koolaid. I have never been a yes person.....you're welcome to follow every word of Linda's but there are other opinions than just her...I don't argue with people these are just my own thoughts...follow on
 
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all.   
 
bruinboy said:
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all. 

bruinboy, what I'm saying is all of a sudden she appears after how many years?
 
redeemed, Ditto!! I'm going by my own experience being in some classes with her. I also saw her out shopping with her dad and they were laughing and having a ball. These are my opinions that I observed many years ago.....and after many years come forward with the stories....

I still respect you also because we can still be friends and disagree........if we were all the same it would be awful :)
 
bruinboy said:
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all. 

I say, it is a shame that they are still drinking the koolaide.
 
Sherryh said:
bruinboy said:
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all. 

bruinboy, what I'm saying is all of a sudden she appears after how many years?

If you read what she says, you understand. It was very hard. And it is her family. Can you imagine howw hard it is to villify your family?

Ok, your opinion is that no one cares.  My opinion is that thousands of people care.  They want to hear what someone with integrity and a willingness to confront the monster has to say.
 
Torrent v.2 said:
They want to hear what someone with integrity and a willingness to confront the monster has to say.

Seems like The Hate Hyles Kool-Aide drinkers want to believe whatever Linda has to say as the gospel truth. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. The point is simple... why is she automatically given "credibility" and "integrity" without any varification or scrutiny?

Confront the monster? You mean talking about a dead man who cannot defend himself and a prison convict? Who exactly has she confronted?

To date Mrs Jack Hyles still maintains a public persona that her husband was an upstanding Christian and he was lied about. Will Linda confront Mommy?

After the Sumner article broke ... Dr Hyles took a Sunday night to address the accusations. I remember MRS HYLES leaping to her feet -more than once- in applause when Dr Hyles came out swinging that night.

Soooo, IF Linda is right then who will deal with Mrs Hyles .... BUT if Mrs Hyles is right then why should we give credibility to Linda?

Many years ago ...15 or more... I heard two known IFB inner circle evangelists state without hesitation that Linda's personal life and "exploits" still made Dave look like a choir boy. It was in response to a question about where was Linda.
 
Pastor Marty said:
Torrent v.2 said:
They want to hear what someone with integrity and a willingness to confront the monster has to say.

Seems like The Hate Hyles Kool-Aide drinkers want to believe whatever Linda has to say as the gospel truth. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. The point is simple... why is she automatically given "credibility" and "integrity" without any varification or scrutiny?

Confront the monster? You mean talking about a dead man who cannot defend himself and a prison convict? Who exactly has she confronted?

To date Mrs Jack Hyles still maintains a public persona that her husband was an upstanding Christian and he was lied about. Will Linda confront Mommy?

After the Sumner article broke ... Dr Hyles took a Sunday night to address the accusations. I remember MRS HYLES leaping to her feet -more than once- in applause when Dr Hyles came out swinging that night.

Soooo, IF Linda is right then who will deal with Mrs Hyles .... BUT if Mrs Hyles is right then why should we give credibility to Linda?

Many years ago ...15 or more... I heard two known IFB inner circle evangelists state without hesitation that Linda's personal life and "exploits" still made Dave look like a choir boy. It was in response to a question about where was Linda.

1. You have absolutely no credibility.
2. The monster is the whole machinery that Hyles built and controlled and that Schaap continued.
3. I am sure Mrs hyles has for so long deceived everyone that it would be too hard to come out now and say "Well, guys, I was lying for 40 years."

4. Prove to me anything you just claimed about Linda.  Two evangelists 15 years ago?  Empty words.

 
Torrent v.2 said:
1. You have absolutely no credibility.
2. The monster is the whole machinery that Hyles built and controlled and that Schaap continued.
3. I am sure Mrs hyles has for so long deceived everyone that it would be too hard to come out now and say "Well, guys, I was lying for 40 years."
4. Prove to me anything you just claimed about Linda.  Two evangelists 15 years ago?  Empty words.

I just asked questions. The fact you responded as you have is proof you're a Hater Kool-Aide drinker. She may be right. But she may be wrong. Before she gets an automatic pass and her every word attributed as a nugget from God .... there are still a couple of hurdles like her mother. That was the point.

Randy Taylor and Dennis Corle
 
Torrent v.2 said:
Sherryh said:
bruinboy said:
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all. 

bruinboy, what I'm saying is all of a sudden she appears after how many years?

If you read what she says, you understand. It was very hard. And it is her family. Can you imagine howw hard it is to villify your family?

Ok, your opinion is that no one cares.  My opinion is that thousands of people care.  They want to hear what someone with integrity and a willingness to confront the monster has to say.

Me too but Linda doesn't have ANY integrity
 
Sherryh said:
bruinboy said:
Amazing that people want to discredit a member of the holy family, who saw and lived the debauchery of the Holy Jacks of Hammond.  Married to a PK myself, I feel a kindred spirit with her and understand where she is coming from.  But because she wants to tell the truth about these faux man of gawd, she meets resistance from those who worshiped these same scoundrels, not The Holy Son of God, whose resurrection we celebrate in a fortnight.  Shame on you all. 

bruinboy, what I'm saying is all of a sudden she appears after how many years?

Having grown up in it and forced to comply, I am sure after she left it took her close to the same amount of time to deprogram herself and then more years to be able to make the stand she is making now.  I am sure the onslaught from the Hyles followers is quite extensive and requires quotes bit of strength and courage.
 
Pastor Marty said:
Torrent v.2 said:
They want to hear what someone with integrity and a willingness to confront the monster has to say.

Seems like The Hate Hyles Kool-Aide drinkers want to believe whatever Linda has to say as the gospel truth. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. The point is simple... why is she automatically given "credibility" and "integrity" without any varification or scrutiny?

Confront the monster? You mean talking about a dead man who cannot defend himself and a prison convict? Who exactly has she confronted?

To date Mrs Jack Hyles still maintains a public persona that her husband was an upstanding Christian and he was lied about. Will Linda confront Mommy?

After the Sumner article broke ... Dr Hyles took a Sunday night to address the accusations. I remember MRS HYLES leaping to her feet -more than once- in applause when Dr Hyles came out swinging that night.

Soooo, IF Linda is right then who will deal with Mrs Hyles .... BUT if Mrs Hyles is right then why should we give credibility to Linda?

Many years ago ...15 or more... I heard two known IFB inner circle evangelists state without hesitation that Linda's personal life and "exploits" still made Dave look like a choir boy. It was in response to a question about where was Linda.

I'm sure those inner circle IFB evangelists did not have an agenda or any loyalty to Hyles.  I'm also sure they did not participate in the IFB gossip line. :-)

But I do remember Mrs. Hyles leaving the IFB for a SBC church after her husbands death,  makes you wonder...
 
Pastor Marty said:
Torrent v.2 said:
1. You have absolutely no credibility.
2. The monster is the whole machinery that Hyles built and controlled and that Schaap continued.
3. I am sure Mrs hyles has for so long deceived everyone that it would be too hard to come out now and say "Well, guys, I was lying for 40 years."
4. Prove to me anything you just claimed about Linda.  Two evangelists 15 years ago?  Empty words.

I just asked questions. The fact you responded as you have is proof you're a Hater Kool-Aide drinker. She may be right. But she may be wrong. Before she gets an automatic pass and her every word attributed as a nugget from God .... there are still a couple of hurdles like her mother. That was the point.

Randy Taylor and Dennis Corle

Like her mother?  Are you really that stupid?  Do you really think that mrs. hyles would do anything else but stand and applaud her husband?  Do you think she had a choice? Do you think she would have had a home to go to that night if she didn't "stand by her man"?  I am sure they rehearsed before they even got to church that night.
Being such a small time managawd, and being that you are a scumbag, there wasn't much for your family to live up to or hide. 
One thing we do know for sure.  Regardless of Linda's past life, reputation, etc. she has much more credibility and integrity than her dad or brother-in-law, whom you worshiped. We KNOW they had none. However,  I can understand your kindred spirit with those two fellow perverts.   
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bruinboy said:
Like her mother?  Are you really that stupid?  Do you really think that mrs. hyles would do anything else but stand and applaud her husband?  Do you think she had a choice? Do you think she would have had a home to go to that night if she didn't "stand by her man"?  I am sure they rehearsed before they even got to church that night.

Being such a small time managawd, and being that you are a scumbag, there wasn't much for your family to live up to or hide. 
One thing we do know for sure.  Regardless of Linda's past life, reputation, etc. she has much more credibility and integrity than her dad or brother-in-law, whom you worshiped. We KNOW they had none. However,  I can understand your kindred spirit with those two fellow perverts.

You have a bad habit of projecting onto others what you yourself would do and have done.

Seeing as you're "in the know" and were there for the funeral rehearsals and you're an apparent co-writer of Mrs Hyles speech and post death PR campaign so she would have a home to return to ... explain why she still speaks in IFB conferences despite leaving Hammond ... has been in contact with the new Hammond pastor ... and still maintains her husband's Christian character despite being financially free from Hammond and IFB control?

She's either a liar or ... wait for it ... Hyles was not the monster you lust for him to have been!

 
Mathew Ward said:
I'm sure those inner circle IFB evangelists did not have an agenda or any loyalty to Hyles.  I'm also sure they did not participate in the IFB gossip line. :-)

But I do remember Mrs. Hyles leaving the IFB for a SBC church after her husbands death,  makes you wonder...

No agenda. Someone casually asked if anyone ever heard from Linda. One of the men said that Linda had her own set of issues that made Dave look like a choir boy. The other man nodded in agreement and the subject was changed. The conversation predates Hyles death and any of this current mess.

Mrs Hyles moved to Dallas. Had maintained a friendship with Mrs Criswell through the years so she attended FBC of Dallas to be me in Mrs C's Sunday School class at the time. She still speaks at IFB conferences where her husband is still loved. She doesn't have to. She chooses to. That is telling in and of itself.
 
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