How far would you go to protect one of your own?

[ALAYMAN]

I would beat the living **** out of him, and that would be his one and only warning to move on and/or find professional help. Beyond that, the mountains here are well adept at keeping secrets.

After our last exchange this response surprised me a bit.

 

[freelance_christian]

I would beat the living **** out of him, and that would be his one and only warning to move on and/or find professional help. Beyond that, the mountains here are well adept at keeping secrets.

After our last exchange this response surprised me a bit.

You probably jumped to a wrong conclusion about me then... 

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a]Did you deliberately ignore my other post?

I see a significant difference in self-defense and the defense of others. I also see significant difference in intentionally lethal and non-lethal force. And, yet again, I see significant difference in addressing an active threat and pre-emptively engaging a potential threat.

no.. i didn;t ignore it at all.... .  did you deliberately ignore what i said in this earlier post?.....

i sincerely hope...  for the sake of your own children....  that if one of them was attacked or threatened you would not waste too much time trying to figure it out .. before you took action to protect them....

do you really think an attacker is going to stop and give you time to think ... and sort out all the significant differences you see, in your head?..... and wait until you have decided what you want to do before he takes action?........ when attacks come they happen fast ...the targets are not usually limited to only one family member but carried out against anyone and everyone in the house.... .  ... and in the amount of time it took you to type out that reply it would all be over except for the crying..... 

hypothetical mumbo jumbo all goes out the window when an attack actually happens... . .. potential victims.. if they get any choice at all... are usually faced with the simple choices of fight... run away... or stand there frozen up and die... .. . to fight or run away either one are choices that have to be made in a split second or one that has already been made through training and preconditioning..... otherwise.... forget about it.. ..  you have set you and your family up to be statistics already........  .[/quote]

It would take me about a nanosecond to figure it out. I think they're fine...

...and why don't you leave it to me to parent my own children?

 

[rsc2a]

It would take me about a nanosecond to figure it out. I think they're fine...

...and why don't you leave it to me to parent my own children?

[size=12pt]why don;t you leave it to all these other fathers, you are taking issue with here, to parent their own children as well?.....  what;s the matter?...  can;t take your own medicine?... ...why is it ok for you to advocate allowing their child to be murdered but not ok for me to advocate you take better care of yours?.....

I'm answering a question that was asked in the OP.

As far as "advocating allowing their children to be murdered", this is the kind of insane extremist rambling divorced from what was actually said that leads me to believe that everything you say is based on emotionalism and not reason at all. But I'll leave you to your delusions...

 

[weaker-brother]

A line from some old movie...
"I've got a 45 and a shovel, nobody will miss you."

'Course, I didn't *say* that, because I'm smart enough not to,
in case somebody actually stalks one of MY daughters,
and the FBI were to search my FFF posts to see evidence
of a predilection to violence in a deranged fundamentalist (are there other kinds?),
which I am not, but could become if certain circumstances
came to light regarding my daughters, especially considering my bouts with PTDS
(post-traumatic-Dad-syndrome).

I wonder if the Judge would take a plea of "temporary sanity"?

Or it I would be better off claiming to be an aspiring Muslim
who must follow Sharia Law concerning the beheading of swine?

Weaker

 

[Torrent v.3]

The gospel is that God is restoring creation

where

what are you a  j e h o v a h  w i t n e s s

l o l

It is dominion theology, or reconstructionism, I cannot remember which.

 

[Torrent v.3]

He does like gossipp, but he also likes to start threads that he knows will generate a lot of replies, so he can spend his days and nights online and not get out and get involved in people's lives. Yes, I know he probably goes soul winning, but there is so much more to life than knocking on doors and cramming the gospel down people's throats then retreating to the quiet comfortable house.

4 things:

1) Learn to spell, loser.
2) Discover the meaning of gossip.
3) Your threads make people yawn, get few if any replies, and are the equivalent of watching paint dry, but don't be hatin'.
4) You have no clue about my involvement with people, but I'm sure your judgmental know-it-all attitude is undoubtedly a sought after commodity in whatever circles of dorks you run in.

I also find it more than mildly amusing that catty toadies like you would rather make me the issue of nearly every response you make to me, rather than simply discuss the content of the OP.  Tells a lot about your lack of character.

Oh, I would love to meet you on the street.(Not a threat, just a desire to meet you and see what kind of person you are.)  You are one of the world's biggest self-righteous people.

 

[rsc2a]

The gospel is that God is restoring creation

where

what are you a  j e h o v a h  w i t n e s s

l o l

It is dominion theology, or reconstructionism, I cannot remember which.

Actually, it's neither.

 

[Torrent v.3]

He does like gossipp, but he also likes to start threads that he knows will generate a lot of replies, so he can spend his days and nights online and not get out and get involved in people's lives. Yes, I know he probably goes soul winning, but there is so much more to life than knocking on doors and cramming the gospel down people's throats then retreating to the quiet comfortable house.

Yeah, all his threads fall into just a few categories.  But my favorites go like this:

TROLL:  "Last night a Christian woman wearing attractive clothing was raped.  Thoughts?"

REPLY:  "It doesn't matter what she was wearing, the man is..."

TROLL:  "What if she was wearing stiletto high heels, fishnet stockings, miniskirt and tube top?"

REPLY:  "That's not really the issue because..."

TROLL:  "What if she had just gotten off work at the strip club where she gave the guy a lap dance and encouraged a sexual encounter later?"

REPLY:  "Well, now that's a little..."

TROLL:  "And she was really a witch, who wanted to lure him into a dark area to cut out his heart and eat it?"

REPLY:  "What the..."

TROLL:  "And what if she was a member of Al Qaeda, too?  You see?  I knew you freebirds would come to her defense.  I WIN!!!  I am He-Man, The Righteous with my sidekick He-Boy, The Useful, who I trot out whenever I need to do some damage control on my reputation as a self-righteous troll!"

"I am Invincible!  Not even Vince can defeat me!  And to prove it, here's some lengthy commentary"

(Insert lengthy boring irrelevant quote from a commentary.)

I have watched him post year after year.

Do you remember the thread at the FFF where for weeks on end he replied over and over to women in demeaning tones. It started with a hypothetical question about the daughter wanting to go to the beach with a boyfriend?  He knew it would bring out views opposite his that he would harangue on end with his narrow minded IFBx'er views.

I watched him implode into a self-serving, self-defending, arrogant jerk for page after page, and no matter how clearly or patiently or extensively person after person showed him his error, he never said he was wrong for what he said to that female poster and those who followed in her defense.

Loser is the first thing that come to my mind.  He asks why I do not answer the "content" on his posts?  Beacuse you do not answer a fool according to his folly.  A real question I can see, but his are just intended to get his post count up and give him lots of opposing ideas to argue with so he can feed his internet forum posting addiction.

Alayman, you bore me to tears.

 

[Torrent v.3]

The gospel is that God is restoring creation

where

what are you a  j e h o v a h  w i t n e s s

l o l

It is dominion theology, or reconstructionism, I cannot remember which.

Actually, it's neither.

So what is it? And don't give me a long drawn out bs answer.  And don't ask me questions.

Answer the question directly.

I know that one day God will restore the earth, and he will restore humanity, but the gospel is defined in 1 Cor 15, and it is not about restoring creation, it is about people.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Oh, I would love to meet you on the street.  You are one of the world's biggest self-righteous hackasses.

ROFLOL!  The loser who stalks me on a Christian internet forum constantly sniping and biting at my heels gets a little dose of his own medicine and wants to physically threaten my person.  lol, real class, loser.

 

[JrChurch]

Observing the replies to the scenario that Alayman put forth has been interesting.  It seems that the obvious answer is to do whatever it takes to protect your daughter from a mad dog.  However, there are always the nut cases from PETA who show up. 

 

[rsc2a]

The gospel is that God is restoring creation

where

what are you a  j e h o v a h  w i t n e s s

l o l

It is dominion theology, or reconstructionism, I cannot remember which.

Actually, it's neither.

So what is it? And don't give me a long drawn out bs answer.  And don't ask me questions.

Answer the question directly.

I know that one day God will restore the earth, and he will restore humanity, but the gospel is defined in 1 Cor 15, and it is not about restoring creation, it is about people.

The Gospel is also defined in Romans 8. It's defined in Revelation. It's defined in Ephesians. It's defined all through Scripture.

It is explained partially by substitutionary atonement and partially explained by Christus Victor. Anyone that accepts CV as a valid atonement model (and there are piles and piles of conservative theologians that do) hold to this...and they are very rarely dominionists or reconstructionists.

 

[Torrent v.3]

Oh, I would love to meet you on the street.  You are one of the world's biggest self-righteous hackasses.

ROFLOL!  The loser who stalks me on a Christian internet forum constantly sniping and biting at my heels gets a little dose of his own medicine and wants to physically threaten my person.  lol, real class, loser.

"Yawn"

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=aleshanee]the sum total off all the statements you have made here... . plus this.... "dying for the Gospel might very well be dying at the hands of some creepy stalker"... add up to you advocating exactly what i said you did. ... . that these christian fathers...  in order to serve what ever insane notion you have of what the gospel is supposed to be.. . . should do nothing in the face of a potential threat against their children until the person posing the threat moves against them first... ..  thus... allowing them to be murdered ................ . there is no emotionalism in what i said .... and there are no delusions about it either.. ...    it;s a fact.. ...[/quote]

I'll ask you once...what did I say about the difference in self-defense and protecting others? And, your posts are nothing but emotionalism. There isn't any form of reasoning as the basis for your thoughts, only fear.

[quote author=aleshanee]my mental and emotional problems are well known here.... ...... ... you are not the first person losing an argument to try and write me off, then gain the high ground, by bringing that up..... ...it just goes that much further to show what manner of creep you are.... ..  .. .  but start a poll here on which fff poster is most deluded....... and i assure you the winner won;t be me ..... ... ..  that honor will fall to you .... [/quote]

I'm honestly not that concerned with whether or not a bunch of rabid fundamentalists think I'm deluded. (And, I'm not saying everyone that posts here is a rabid fundamentalist.)

 

[Torrent v.3]

The gospel is that God is restoring creation

where

what are you a  j e h o v a h  w i t n e s s

l o l

It is dominion theology, or reconstructionism, I cannot remember which.

Actually, it's neither.

So what is it? And don't give me a long drawn out bs answer.  And don't ask me questions.

Answer the question directly.

I know that one day God will restore the earth, and he will restore humanity, but the gospel is defined in 1 Cor 15, and it is not about restoring creation, it is about people.

The Gospel is also defined in Romans 8. It's defined in Revelation. It's defined in Ephesians. It's defined all through Scripture.

It is explained partially by substitutionary atonement and partially explained by Christus Victor. Anyone that accepts CV as a valid atonement model (and there are piles and piles of conservative theologians that do) hold to this...and they are very rarely dominionists or reconstructionists.

Why do you need to bloviate every time I ask you a question?  7 words will do, as in "I hold to the Christus Victor view."

 

[ALAYMAN]

...
I'm honestly not that concerned with whether or not a bunch of rabid fundamentalists think I'm deluded. (And, I'm not saying everyone that posts here is a rabid fundamentalist.)

She had a ton of credibility with the point that you want other people to stay out of your parenting but want to judge them for theirs.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Torrent v.3]Why do you need to bloviate every time I ask you a question?  7 words will do, as in "I hold to the Christus Victor view."[/quote]

I actually hold to both views.

(Six words. )

 

[rsc2a]

...
I'm honestly not that concerned with whether or not a bunch of rabid fundamentalists think I'm deluded. (And, I'm not saying everyone that posts here is a rabid fundamentalist.)

She had a ton of credibility with the point that you want other people to stay out of your parenting but want to judge them for theirs.

If you want people to stay out of your parenting, then you should stop asking questions about it.  :

 

[ALAYMAN]

"Yawn"

I'm not the boring punk hiding behind an unknown identity.  My name on here is known, I've published it before.  I've listed my church, and my pastor.  You're a big-mouthed anonymous coward who won't own up to his own words. 


loser

If you want people to stay out of your parenting, then you should stop asking questions about it

Do you ride the slow bus?  I'm not the one whining about it, you were, and she nailed you on your hypocrisy.