ALAYMAN said:
Then that would be a church from the Boston Church of Christ (international Churches of Christ). Not all of these churches are against musical instruments however but they are still cultic.
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Then that would be a church from the Boston Church of Christ (international Churches of Christ). Not all of these churches are against musical instruments however but they are still cultic.
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brianb said:
Actually, that list is fairly representative of all COC's, not just the "international" splinter group.
You could go to most any of the original Church of Christ congregations and still find all 5 of these in play. There's only a VERY small minority of Church of Christ congregations (in the double digits at best) that allow musical instruments, and they're shunned by the other COC's as liberal and compromising (sound familiar?). For instance, you could go to Phil Robertson's church down in West Monroe, LA and they would adhere to all five points of this.
The ICOC is a very small group, mainly in larger cities and urban areas. They adhere to all these, PLUS a very strict view of discipling.
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Castor Muscular said:
I haven't argued for dualism, any secret knowledge (the gospel is anything but secret), nor do I think that the material universe is evil, so I don't get the connection.
Amazed said:
I'm not sure how you are defining fellowship so loosely to include correction (of the "waterdog").
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ALAYMAN said:
Actually you have.
[quote author=ALAYMAN]...any secret knowledge (the gospel is anything but secret)...[/quote]
And that too.
[quote author=ALAYMAN]...nor do I think that the material universe is evil, so I don't get the connection.[/quote]
And even this.
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rsc2a said:
Innocuous does not mean evil. Par for the course for your inability to have any intellectual integrity, which is why the rest of your assertions are a load of dung, unworthy of dignifying.
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subllibrm said:
You're being obtuse.
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Just saw on Fox where a large C of C in Moore, OK was throwing open its doors to the community for food, water and shelter. Watching what happened there kind of puts all this hair splitting in perspective.
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ChuckBob said:
You don't believe Bob Gray's 'averaging' theory, do you?
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ALAYMAN said:
The point being that when the world is exploding in your face and your neighbor's children are dying as they lie burried beneath tons of rubble that the charges of cult and heresey bantered about assume the pissant status they so richly deserve.
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ChuckBob said:
In that context, I doubt anybody would place the imminence of the doctrinal issue of baptismal regeneration over the life and limb of victims. Of course that has absolutely zero to do with the context of our conversation here about the CoC heresy(s) and their damnable nature. Their propagation throughout America occurs on a regular basis where there are no tornados to provide any subterfuge or distraction. And at the end of the day, when all things of significance and importance are weighed, far more carnage will result from ignoring the effects of such soul-daming doctrine.
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subllibrm said:
I aims to please.
Being nice, sincere, compassionate and neighborly does not take care of the sin problem.
I grew up across the street from the CofC I attended and was close to my church family. One of the elder's sons was my older brother's best friend. They were together in a car the night my brother died in a wreck. I still remember the elder calling me to ask the number to contact my parents who were vacationing in San Diego. I remember the grief-stricken face of the elder's son when I saw him. The elder was compassionate and caring, as were the shocked church family.
But I eventually left that church after I was saved because it taught a false doctrine. Sincere, nice teachers pointed to the chart (located in every Sunday School class) which said the way to heaven was to 1) Repent 2) Believe 3) Confess 4) Be Baptized. They taught me that I needed to be baptized in the CofC baptistry where the water would be mystically changed into the blood of Christ and in those waters my sins would be washed away. Those sweet, kind people were damning my soul to hell with their false teaching. No matter how you dress it with good works, false doctrine is an abomination.
I grew up across the street from the CofC I attended and was close to my church family. One of the elder's sons was my older brother's best friend. They were together in a car the night my brother died in a wreck. I still remember the elder calling me to ask the number to contact my parents who were vacationing in San Diego. I remember the grief-stricken face of the elder's son when I saw him. The elder was compassionate and caring, as were the shocked church family.
But I eventually left that church after I was saved because it taught a false doctrine. Sincere, nice teachers pointed to the chart (located in every Sunday School class) which said the way to heaven was to 1) Repent 2) Believe 3) Confess 4) Be Baptized. They taught me that I needed to be baptized in the CofC baptistry where the water would be mystically changed into the blood of Christ and in those waters my sins would be washed away. Those sweet, kind people were damning my soul to hell with their false teaching. No matter how you dress it with good works, false doctrine is an abomination.