Church of Christ hatred for Baptists.

[rsc2a]

I see no reason to discuss this further. Everyone is free to read the thread and see who is being truthful. I will leave this little gem:

I can understand Christ-denying religionists, and certainly see why pagans would attempt to block the free-flow of the gospel, but it thoroughly boggles my mind that Bible believing Christians would be those who attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel, particularly in the name of furthering their own personal ease.  Absolutely mind-numbing. - Alayman

This is EXACTLY what I just told you I said in my last post.  "It boggles my mind  that evangelical would attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel" is absolutely identical to "I was protesting the evangelicals on here and in America who so readily would like to suppress the free flow of the gospel".  The fact that you would dig that out and post it as evidence supporting whatever inane claim you're making slams the gavel on you and your inability to avoid ultimate and gargantuan obtuseness.

...as you protested the law itself. (You'll notice I did agree that you were also doing as you claimed above.)

[quote author=ALAYMAN]

Yes. Do you know what double standard is?

I take it you don't understand the difference between a person engaging in their constitutional right (and God commanded imperative) and somebody proselytizing.  I also take that to mean that you wouldn't mind if I came to your property and began posting flyers advertising, well, whatever the flip I wanted to advertize.  8)[/quote]

Yes, I would mind. Just like I would mind if you started doing it at my church.

See? No double standard.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Looks like somebody got chocolate in their peanut butter...

 

[ALAYMAN]

...as you protested the law itself. (You'll notice I did agree that you were also doing as you claimed above.)

lol, one more time for the king of obtuse.....



I can understand Christ-denying religionists, and certainly see why pagans would attempt to block the free-flow of the gospel, but it thoroughly boggles my mind that Bible believing Christians would be those who attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel, particularly in the name of furthering their own personal ease.  Absolutely mind-numbing. - Alayman

Notice the juxtaposition of "pagans" and "Christ denying religionists" with "Bible-believing Christians".  If you can read that sentence, in its absolute simplicity, yet still claim that I wasn't protesting the evangelical world sponsoring such legislation you are slower than a caveman.  If it makes you feel better, I don't think you're that slow, just intellectually dishonest.

Yes, I would mind. Just like I would mind if you started doing it at my church.

See? No double standard.

Even the armed services understands the difference (ie, your comparison is apples to oranges) between legitimate expressions of public witness and faith, and proselytizing.  Sad that you don't, but I expect nothing less from you, which is why it is almost always fruitless to have a conversation with you.

 

[rsc2a]

...as you protested the law itself. (You'll notice I did agree that you were also doing as you claimed above.)

lol, one more time for the king of obtuse.....

I can understand Christ-denying religionists, and certainly see why pagans would attempt to block the free-flow of the gospel, but it thoroughly boggles my mind that Bible believing Christians would be those who attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel, particularly in the name of furthering their own personal ease.  Absolutely mind-numbing. - Alayman

Notice the juxtaposition of "pagans" and "Christ denying religionists" with "Bible-believing Christians".  If you can read that sentence, in its absolute simplicity, yet still claim that I wasn't protesting the evangelical world sponsoring such legislation you are slower than a caveman.  If it makes you feel better, I don't think you're that slow, just intellectually dishonest.

So you were in favor of the law?

[quote author=ALAYMAN]

Yes, I would mind. Just like I would mind if you started doing it at my church.

See? No double standard.

Even the armed services understands the difference (ie, your comparison is apples to oranges) between legitimate expressions of public witness and faith, and proselytizing.  Sad that you don't, but I expect nothing less from you, which is why it is almost always fruitless to have a conversation with you.[/quote]

You expect nothing less than me calling you out for having double standards? Well, I certainly hope not.

Now if you can only tell me the difference in "proselytizing" and "legitimate expressions of public witness and faith".

(For the record, this is what the military said:  "Service members can share their faith (evangelize), but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one's beliefs (proselytization)." In other words, your unwanted, intrusive attempts to get into my property to convert me are no different than another individual's unwanted, intrustive attempts to get into your church to convert you.)

 

[freelance_christian]

Yes. We had to run off a couple of ifbx kjvo nuts a few years back. And I'm not being facetious.

What were they doing?

They were stirring up strife, questioning our doctrinal stance concerning the Scriptures and trying to hijack every small group Bible study with their hellish tripe.

 

[ChuckBob]

Wow! We have never had any problems with CoC people. We have some great, genuine friends among them and Baptist has never been an issue with them.

That's what I was thinking. The other senior lawyer in our building is Cof C. We have a ball. We joke with people that we keep each other around to keep us both honest. My next door neighbor is C of C. We get along great and help eachother out all the time. One of my hunting buddies is C of C. He has boys the same age as my two. We all hunt on his palce up in Castalian Springs. When the tornado went through a few years ago and wrecked his barn we, along with a couple of Methodists, went to help him fix it. We get along fine here.


ChuckBob

 

[ALAYMAN]

That's what I was thinking. The other senior lawyer in our building is Cof C. We have a ball. We joke with people that we keep each other around to keep us both honest. My next door neighbor is C of C. We get along great and help eachother out all the time. One of my hunting buddies is C of C. He has boys the same age as my two. We all hunt on his palce up in Castalian Springs. When the tornado went through a few years ago and wrecked his barn we, along with a couple of Methodists, went to help him fix it. We get along fine here.


ChuckBob

I'm truly glad that y'all get along with those CoC neighbors and friends of yours.  Of course I would hope that my OP would not be taken to mean that I was claiming all, or even most CoC congregants are antagonistic towards Baptists.  I was merely saying that of the incidents I've had where there has been confrontation or antagonism amongst people who profess to be Christians, the CoC folk rank first, with the Catholics a close second, but the Catholics don't bother to post tracts and flyers on our church property.  I'd also go on record to say that there is growing diversity amongst those who claim to be CoC, so much so that those old school Coc (the ones who believe in never using instruments in worship) take the new-fangled CoC crowd to task for their "compromise".  Some CoC folk today don't even believe one of their core tenets, and that being baptismal regeneration.  These newer CoC folk follow a more evangelical, less militant and adversarial track, and it may be that sort that is largely in your neck of the woods.  All that being said, the video below shows the typical sophistry used by the true CoC cultish types, and their antagonism towards Baptists (and grace alone salvation).

Bible Q-n-A - "An Honest Baptist" (church of Christ)

 

[subllibrm]

Bible Q-n-A - "An Honest Baptist" (church of Christ)

I want to see this guy and Frag debate each other.

 

[AmazedbyGrace]

One thing I love about no longer being an IFBxer...

My church actually gets along with the different Christian churches in the area. If another church is holding an adoption seminar, we might even  post an ad about it in our church bulletin. We are not scared of people dumping our church for another. Many of  the local churches participate in a big fundraiser for the local crisis pregnancy center  too (On Mother's Day they send all interested attendees from all participating churches home with a baby bottle and ask them to return it on Father's Day with "spare change collection" donation inside.)

Fellowship is a beautiful thing.

 

[ALAYMAN]

One thing I love about no longer being an IFBxer...

My church actually gets along with the different Christian churches in the area. If another church is holding an adoption seminar, we might even  post an ad about it in our church bulletin. We are not scared of people dumping our church for another. Many of  the local churches participate in a big fundraiser for the local crisis pregnancy center  too (On Mother's Day they send all interested attendees from all participating churches home with a baby bottle and ask them to return it on Father's Day with "spare change collection" donation inside.)

Fellowship is a beautiful thing.

We're talking about people who preach another gospel, saying that water washes away sins, which reminds me of my favorite Adrian Rogers quote:  It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error.

Or the Bible says it even better...

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

 

[rsc2a]

One thing I love about no longer being an IFBxer...

My church actually gets along with the different Christian churches in the area. If another church is holding an adoption seminar, we might even  post an ad about it in our church bulletin. We are not scared of people dumping our church for another. Many of  the local churches participate in a big fundraiser for the local crisis pregnancy center  too (On Mother's Day they send all interested attendees from all participating churches home with a baby bottle and ask them to return it on Father's Day with "spare change collection" donation inside.)

Fellowship is a beautiful thing.

We're talking about people who preach another gospel, saying that water washes away sins, which reminds me of my favorite Adrian Rogers quote:  It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error.

Or the Bible says it even better...

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

I prefer the words of Jesus over Adrian Rogers:

“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. (John 17:20-23, ESV)

 

[OZZY]

One thing I love about no longer being an IFBxer...

My church actually gets along with the different Christian churches in the area. If another church is holding an adoption seminar, we might even  post an ad about it in our church bulletin. We are not scared of people dumping our church for another. Many of  the local churches participate in a big fundraiser for the local crisis pregnancy center  too (On Mother's Day they send all interested attendees from all participating churches home with a baby bottle and ask them to return it on Father's Day with "spare change collection" donation inside.)

Fellowship is a beautiful thing.

We're talking about people who preach another gospel, saying that water washes away sins, which reminds me of my favorite Adrian Rogers quote:  It is better to be divided by truth than to be united in error.

Or the Bible says it even better...

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

I prefer the words of Jesus over Adrian Rogers:

“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. (John 17:20-23, ESV)

Wasn't Jesus referring to believers?

 

[Castor Muscular]

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers? 

 

[ALAYMAN]

I prefer the words of Jesus over Adrian Rogers:

I prefer the words of Jesus which I cited from I Corinthians that Adrian Rogers based his quote on.

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers? 

I don't ultimately know who is and who is not a believer.  Mormons claim to "believe in Jesus".  JWs "believe in Jesus".  Christadelphians "believe in Jesus".  Roman Catholics "believe in Jesus".  All these different theological cults claim to believe in Christ, but the Bible says that we are to consider those that preach a false gospel/Christ accursed.

 

[Castor Muscular]

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers? 

I don't ultimately know who is and who is not a believer.  Mormons claim to "believe in Jesus".  JWs "believe in Jesus".  Christadelphians "believe in Jesus".  Roman Catholics "believe in Jesus".  All these different theological cults claim to believe in Christ, but the Bible says that we are to consider those that preach a false gospel/Christ accursed.

What was the point of quoting "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers" in reference to them if you don't know if they are unbelievers?  Poop or get off the pot.  Are they (baptismal regenerists) unbelievers or not? 

 

[rsc2a]

I prefer the words of Jesus over Adrian Rogers:

I prefer the words of Jesus which I cited from I Corinthians that Adrian Rogers based his quote on.

Those aren't the words of Jesus....

[quote author=ALAYMAN]

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers? 

I don't ultimately know who is and who is not a believer.  Mormons claim to "believe in Jesus".  JWs "believe in Jesus".  Christadelphians "believe in Jesus".  Roman Catholics "believe in Jesus".  All these different theological cults claim to believe in Christ, but the Bible says that we are to consider those that preach a false gospel/Christ accursed.
[/quote]

Do they believe Jesus is Lord? Do they believe God has raised Him from the dead?

 

[brianb]

When soul winning if I encounter a “Do not Solicit” I do not knock on the door, but always leave a tract.  I try to honor the resident’s wishes to not be disturbed.

What do you all do?

Actually no soliciting includes written materials as well. However if the no soliciting sign is just an old sticker that may have been there since before the present residents lived there it maybe okay to leave something.

 

[Ransom]

Evil Ransom would locate the offending church, and tape a Baptist sermon about sola fide on their door. Or, alternatively, mail both back to them with a brief note reading "We read yours. Now read ours."

 

[OZZY]

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers?

You tell me,, does belief in salvation thru baptism make one a believer?

 

[rsc2a]

I Cor 6:14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

If I remember correctly you are now part of a reformed church.  Go ask your pastor/elder if it is appropriate to fellowship with baptismal regenerationists and report back here what he tells you.

Are baptismal regenerationists unbelievers?

You tell me,, does belief in salvation thru baptism make one a believer?

Probably more than belief in salvation through a prayer does. At least the COC'er has a verse to point to.