Christian Education

Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
We all minister to each other. We don't elevate one person over the others. Kind of like:

For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human? What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.

You know...the Bible.

You are an idiot wrapped in the shell of a moron.  Because someone says that a sermon, book, or class was a blessing to them doesn't mean they are elevating one person over another.  Why must you do nothing but post critical posts.  You must be a very unhappy person.  I'm sure that those around you are.

I think rsc2a can speak for himself about this, but what he is suggesting is precisely what Jesus taught:

I agree that it is what Jesus taught.  Saying that a book blessed me does not disobeying this principle,
 
rsc2a said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
It's truly delusion to think that people don't put Hyles on a pedestal. Oh yeah! There is a statue of him on a pedestal!

No one is saying that some people didn't/don't put Hyles on a pedestal.  Some people (Ray Young) worshiped the ground upon which he walked.  Others were blessed by his ministry.  Others hated him.  What's your point?

I just did a quick search using your name. Based on the search settings, you've mentioned Hyles 123 times on here and Jesus 40.

You've started threads titled:

"Dr. Hyles Quote of the Day",
"If a "Jack Hyles" took the pastorate of FBCH today......",
"Do you still read/reference Dr. Hyles' books?",
"Why were we so "enamored" with Dr. Hyles?",
"The day Dr. Hyles died"
"If not for Dave Hyles............."

I found one thread  you started with Jesus in the title..and that asking where He was during Holy Saturday.

Wonder what my point is.

If you haven't noticed, this is the Hyles-Anderson portion of the FFF.  We discuss topics that relate to Hyles-Anderson College.  Would it not be obvious to have threads with those titles?  Would it not be obvious to use the founders name in posts?

 
It would be more obvious that someone who calls themselves a Jesus follower would spend more effort talking about what that means than what it means to follow someone else.

Those numbers and theads I posted wasn't from the HAC subforum...it was forum-wide. And it's clear who you follow.
 
rsc2a said:
It would be more obvious that someone who calls themselves a Jesus follower would spend more effort talking about what that means than what it means to follow someone else.

Those numbers and theads I posted wasn't from the HAC subforum...it was forum-wide. And it's clear who you spend more time talking about.

99% of my posts are on the HAC Forum.  I spend very little time in any other area of the FFF.  Nice try.

The HAC FFF is for discussion of things pertaining to HAC.  Did you attend HAC?
 
RAIDER said:
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
We all minister to each other. We don't elevate one person over the others. Kind of like:

For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human? What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.

You know...the Bible.

You are an idiot wrapped in the shell of a moron.  Because someone says that a sermon, book, or class was a blessing to them doesn't mean they are elevating one person over another.  Why must you do nothing but post critical posts.  You must be a very unhappy person.  I'm sure that those around you are.

I think rsc2a can speak for himself about this, but what he is suggesting is precisely what Jesus taught:

I agree that it is what Jesus taught.  Saying that a book blessed me does not disobeying this principle,

But his answer was in response to him attending a house church, not about saying you were blessed by anything/anyone in particular.
 
I didn't attend HAC. Doesn't mean I cannot see the man worship that was/is not only prevalent but encouraged.
 
rsc2a said:
I didn't attend HAC. Doesn't mean I cannot see the man worship that was/is not only prevalent but encouraged.

Oh, ok, now it makes more sense.  You didn't attend HAC yet you are able to accurately criticize all things HAC.  Now I know why you add little value to the HAC FFF.
 
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
I didn't attend HAC. Doesn't mean I cannot see the man worship that was/is not only prevalent but encouraged.

Oh, ok, now it makes more sense.  You didn't attend HAC yet you are able to accurately criticize all things HAC.  Now I know why you add little value to the HAC FFF.

Sure. Make sure you wear your 100% Hyles button proud.
 
rsc2a said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
I didn't attend HAC. Doesn't mean I cannot see the man worship that was/is not only prevalent but encouraged.

Oh, ok, now it makes more sense.  You didn't attend HAC yet you are able to accurately criticize all things HAC.  Now I know why you add little value to the HAC FFF.

Sure. Make sure you wear your 100% Hyles button proud.

The wide majority of your posts are critical.  Is your criticism ever accurate?  Yes.  The problem is not with the posts that obviously warrant the criticism.  The problem is with your negative comments on just about every post.  Those of us that attended HAC can be discussing a topic about FBCH or HAC of which you know nothing about.  You will throw some critical, scornful post into the mix.  Does your not attending HAC disqualify you from posting on the HAC FFF?  No.  Does your not attending HAC disqualify you from criticizing anything and everything posted on this forum?  Absolutely!!
 
Yes, I know that a lot of people did and still do worship JH. I don't think R2D2 will ever have that problem.
 
brainisengaged said:
Pastor was out of town this Weds, and we had a speaker

I don't attend FBC but it seems like JW is gone quite a bit. I don't necessarily view that as a negative thing because hearing a variety of speakers might be valuable.
 
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

My understanding regarding the military is all non-accredited diplomas & GED holders are ranked as tier 2 applicants & have very little chance of being accepted.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?
 
Norefund said:
brainisengaged said:
Pastor was out of town this Weds, and we had a speaker

I don't attend FBC but it seems like JW is gone quite a bit. I don't necessarily view that as a negative thing because hearing a variety of speakers might be valuable.
I don't know, when I went to HAC, the GI Bill helped me pay for it.  Also, I doubt if the military is that picky these days, especially with all the deployments and engagements that our all volunteer military is being subjected to.
 
sword said:
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?

My last two employers required a 4-year college degree. The accreditation of the college didn't matter. Several years ago while going through a time of unemployment, I investigated going to community college to work on getting a degree in public education to be a public school teacher. Even though it was a community college, it would not accept a single class from HAC.

To my knowledge, having a non-accredited degree has not hindered me from a specific job opportunity simply because HAC is not accredited. This has been my experience though some might have had a different result.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
sword said:
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?

My last two employers required a 4-year college degree. The accreditation of the college didn't matter. Several years ago while going through a time of unemployment, I investigated going to community college to work on getting a degree in public education to be a public school teacher. Even though it was a community college, it would not accept a single class from HAC.

To my knowledge, having a non-accredited degree has not hindered me from a specific job opportunity simply because HAC is not accredited. This has been my experience though some might have had a different result.
Well, once they saw that your major was Marriage and Motherhood, it was all over! :P
 
16KJV11 said:
Smellin Coffee said:
sword said:
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?

My last two employers required a 4-year college degree. The accreditation of the college didn't matter. Several years ago while going through a time of unemployment, I investigated going to community college to work on getting a degree in public education to be a public school teacher. Even though it was a community college, it would not accept a single class from HAC.

To my knowledge, having a non-accredited degree has not hindered me from a specific job opportunity simply because HAC is not accredited. This has been my experience though some might have had a different result.
Well, once they saw that your major was Marriage and Motherhood, it was all over! :P

LOL! You might have a point there! But hey! Nobody can apply a Band-Aid like I can!
 
16KJV11 said:
Norefund said:
brainisengaged said:
Pastor was out of town this Weds, and we had a speaker

I don't attend FBC but it seems like JW is gone quite a bit. I don't necessarily view that as a negative thing because hearing a variety of speakers might be valuable.
I don't know, when I went to HAC, the GI Bill helped me pay for it.  Also, I doubt if the military is that picky these days, especially with all the deployments and engagements that our all volunteer military is being subjected to.
Let me make and addendum to this:  The Army, Navy and the Marines aren't picky, but OTOH, the Air Force...need I say more? 8)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
16KJV11 said:
Smellin Coffee said:
sword said:
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?

My last two employers required a 4-year college degree. The accreditation of the college didn't matter. Several years ago while going through a time of unemployment, I investigated going to community college to work on getting a degree in public education to be a public school teacher. Even though it was a community college, it would not accept a single class from HAC.

To my knowledge, having a non-accredited degree has not hindered me from a specific job opportunity simply because HAC is not accredited. This has been my experience though some might have had a different result.
Well, once they saw that your major was Marriage and Motherhood, it was all over! :P

LOL! You might have a point there! But hey! Nobody can apply a Band-Aid like I can!

Now that's a classic!!
 
Smellin Coffee said:
16KJV11 said:
Smellin Coffee said:
sword said:
I’m hearing a lot of stories about Colleges, Universities, employers & even the military not accepting unaccredited Christian High school diplomas for admission or employment.

Are these stories anecdotal or is this becoming a common problem.

Any firsthand experience regarding these problems?

My last two employers required a 4-year college degree. The accreditation of the college didn't matter. Several years ago while going through a time of unemployment, I investigated going to community college to work on getting a degree in public education to be a public school teacher. Even though it was a community college, it would not accept a single class from HAC.

To my knowledge, having a non-accredited degree has not hindered me from a specific job opportunity simply because HAC is not accredited. This has been my experience though some might have had a different result.
Well, once they saw that your major was Marriage and Motherhood, it was all over! :P

LOL! You might have a point there! But hey! Nobody can apply a Band-Aid like I can!

Spitting Chipotle all over my computer keyboard and screen right now.....bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
 
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