Any "Glee"/sodomite fans present among us?

[ALAYMAN]

and yet you believe gays and lesbians are ruining the morals of America.

So homosexuality and lesbianism have no effect on American morals? I don't agree but that's just me.

Billy was pulling the bait and switcheroo.  He was making the spurious implication, as numerous other slow-bus riders on this thread have, that I believe that gays are solely responsibile for the moral decline of America.  That's a lie that doesn't come close to approximating anything I've said in any post.  But putting huge dictionaries and volumes of encyclopedias in my mouth,  hey, it's what liberals do.

 

[ALAYMAN]

What's all the fuss about?

The sin of Sodom was Sodomy.  'Least that's what I always thought!

lol, well, though I haven't traveled that road, it's already been bombed and undermined too.

 

[Bob H]

not your moral outrage temper tantrums. 

So mentioning specific sins is a no no? So we can't discuss the effects of those sins has on the America culture?

 

[Reformed Guy]

The homosexual lifestyle is sinful..so is adultery...it's a Xer sugar stick...they will harp on this sin and ignore their sin.

I''m not an X'er, so I'm up with scripture putting a death penalty on both of 'em.

Are you?

 

[Bob H]

Well, Calvinism, fer sure, that's what Chuck said, and Chuck wouldn't lie to us through the cigar smoke.

Don't go there   

 

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=Bob H]

So mentioning specific sins is a no no? So we can't discuss the effects of those sins has on the America culture?
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Bob, have you ever seen Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson try to quiet an opponent by shouting "racist"?  It doesn't matter if the person they shout it at has actually said or done anything racist.  When they shout it, you just have to wimper away and say yes mas-sah.

 

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WARNING:  This thread is GAY!

 

[ALAYMAN]

WARNING:  This thread is GAY!

EW, that you?

 

[Bob H]

The homosexual lifestyle is sinful..so is adultery...it's a Xer sugar stick...they will harp on this sin and ignore their sin.

So believers can't mention/discuss/expose specific sins cause they're not perfect? Paul did and he wasn't perfect unless you know something we don't.

 

[Bro Blue]

How in the world can a christian have a queer as a friend? If God is specific about sodomy being an abomination, wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be a bad testimony to hang out with them on a regular basis? To unsaved people, that might look like you are ok with the lifestyle.

 

[brianb]

How in the world can a christian have a queer as a friend? If God is specific about sodomy being an abomination, wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be a bad testimony to hang out with them on a regular basis? To unsaved people, that might look like you are ok with the lifestyle.

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

If the homosexual is a brother or sister than yes don't hang out with him or her otherwise the Bible encourages you to let your light so shine before men and that includes homosexuals. There are limits to this of course - you probably shouldn't go to a gay bar. It is rare for homosexuals to want to be friends with true Christians so if God leads you to one or visa versa you should use that opportunity to befriend one.

 

[abp]

Don't you just love this pic?

Thee best

 

[Bro Blue]

For one thing, I don't walk around with a big stick ready to whoop up on the first unsuspecting queer I meet. On the other hand, I'm not going to try to initiate a friendship with one either. If the opportunity to witness to one presents itself, I will do so the same I would anyone else. For the proud gay christian(contradiction in terms imho) that believes that God accepts his lifestyle, I think he is seriously deluded. God was very clear about how He felt about such matters.

 

[Ransom]

Bro Blue asked:

How in the world can a christian have a queer as a friend? If God is specific about sodomy being an abomination, wouldn't it stand to reason that it would be a bad testimony to hang out with them on a regular basis? To unsaved people, that might look like you are ok with the lifestyle.

It appears that wasn't Paul's concern . . .

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people - not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler - not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. "Purge the evil person from among you." (1 Cor. 5:9-13)

The early Christians couldn't avoid associating with immoral people: they had family, friends, business associates, etc. who lived immoral lifestyles that were approved by the society at large.  As do we.  But Paul says specifically that that sort of separation from the world is impractical, as it would involve going out of the world itself.  (Besides, one can suppose he would add: how can you give the Gospel to them, if you won't be seen with them?)

Paul was more concerned that they separate themselves with so-called "brothers" who still practiced abominations. He said the Corinthians were responsible for purging out the immorality from within their midst, and let God take care of the pagans.

 

[OZZY]

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No doubt a Mary like you has watched all the Pee Wee films, carry on AGM

Good one Pee Wee.

It's interesting that your Avatar is from a musical, highly symbolic to the GLBT community. 


Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmm.
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No doubt that a lot of thing make you go hmmmmmmmmm,mmmm

 

[Bro Blue]

Ransom, associating with someone in an impersonal way is a whole lot different than being buddy buddy with someone. Yes we have to have interaction with the world, but we don't have to befriend people like that. Witness to them? Yes. Go to a party at their house? No.

 

[Castor Muscular]

Glee is in large part about desensitizing the culture towards gay relationships and forwarding their agenda.  Do you think that Christians should advocate art with such an anti-Christ message?

I have never seen Glee, but it's hardly the only show with a gay agenda.  Even the cooking shows glorify gay people.

I watch The Food Network regularly, and I don't remember any gay chefs on it. Some might be, but if so they never mentioned it.

You must not be watching the same shows I watch.  I caught a few minutes of Chopped the other day.  The host of Chopped is gay, and one of the contestants went out of her way to talk about her female partner. In fact, you can almost guarantee that one or more contestants in cooking reality shows like Top Chef, etc., will be gay and will somehow work their gay relationships into their dialog. 

I don't know what percentage of the population is gay.  Some say 2%.  Some say 10%.  But on TV it often seems like it's 50% or more. 

I hope you won't misunderstand my view of non-Christian openly gay and lesbian people.  I have often had better relationships with them than many non-Christian straight people, and I feel no compulsion to "fix" them.  What irks me is the liberal agenda to elevate all that is morally wrong, and destroy all that is morally right in some effort to eliminate the differences between the two. 

If you can take the time, listen to what this guy says... it is very enlightening. 

HERITAGE FOUNDATION: "How Modern Liberals Think"

Also, it would be hypocritical for me to criticize gay people.  I'm a heterosexual male lesbian, myself.

 

[Izdaari]

Castor,

If the ones who talk about being gay are on the cooking reality shows, that's probably why I missed them. I normally do not watch reality shows, with very few exceptions. I like my cooking straight... er, I don't mean heterosexual (irrelevant to cooking), I mean not turned into a goofy game show.

That's a looong video. I watched just a little and he seems good so far. I'll watch the rest when I can.

 

[OZZY]

[quote author=OZZY]
No doubt a Mary like you has watched all the Pee Wee films, carry on AGM

Good one Pee Wee.

It's interesting that your Avatar is from a musical, highly symbolic to the GLBT community. 


Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmm.
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What is interesting is that you equate a 1930's classic to the Gay community , you must spend a lot of time around your sodimite friends to be in the know. I had no idea that The Wizard of Oz was one of ya'll favorites.Oh well bet you go hmmmmmmmmm while you are watching it.

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

Btw, "sodomite" is a misnomer, since homosexuality or sexual sin of any kind are at most a very minor part of the reasons Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. At least if you believe Jeremiah, Isaiah and Ezekiel, all of whom talk about the fate of those two cities and why they were destroyed... and don't mention sexual sin of any kind as one of the reasons.

Compare the story in Genesis with Jude 1:7 and you will see that you are wrong.  The sin was sexual perversion, and it was clear the men wanted to commit sodomy with the visitors and were blinded because of it.  You have swallowed the lie of the liberals that think that nothing is wrong with homosexualism.