Youth Conference 2013
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Wait. that couple is closer than 6 inches!
Looks like a much smaller crowd than normal.
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qwerty said:
Define "crowd."
Torrent v.3 said:
If it is 1500 I would be surprised.
Sherryh said:
I am not sure about them being online.
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YC2013 crowd at the church like very small Wed night crowd. About 2500 including home folks.
bgwilkinson said:
The main level was respectably full. Side sections had gaps in them. Balcony closed off entirely. Big change from the 10,000 in 2006 (7?).
It is a year after the heinous goings on. Lets not kid ourselves the crowd was going down when Jack Schaap was running it. Where it will go from here is hard to say.
They did not use the balcony at all during the day and some vacant areas on the main floor. There are just over 1600 registered delegates.
There were a lot of late comers this evening, probably because of this heat and crazy dew point. Probably about 2000 maybe 2500 by the time you add all the folks from area like churches.
There were a lot of late comers this evening, probably because of this heat and crazy dew point. Probably about 2000 maybe 2500 by the time you add all the folks from area like churches.
Bravo said:
Only about 75-80% actually register, so it just seems low since the crowd is low. It is impossible to police the scofflaws that do not pay or register at any conference. They have tried buttons, badges, photo id on lanyards... It is a mess. Since they have to be registered for the competitions (singing, basketball, etc) it has bumped up some, but had always been such a challenge.
It's a Baptist thing >
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I remember the day (when I was in my teens - two years after Abram and Sarai left their homes) when you paid for a whole week of YC, stayed in dorms or [guys] in local school gyms and they fed you lunch every day and supper one evening.
Then I remember the days (as a youth pastor's wife) when YC was totally free. No one paid to register. I don't believe we even had to tell them we were planning to attend. We just showed up - REALLY early each day - so a few could take and Bible-sit everyone else's Bibles in "good" seats. The rest would go get breakfast, bringing something back for the Bible-sitters, who would go out to van in the church parking lot to eat theirs while those who went out for breakfast became the Bible-sitters.
Then I remember the days (as a youth pastor's wife) when YC was totally free. No one paid to register. I don't believe we even had to tell them we were planning to attend. We just showed up - REALLY early each day - so a few could take and Bible-sit everyone else's Bibles in "good" seats. The rest would go get breakfast, bringing something back for the Bible-sitters, who would go out to van in the church parking lot to eat theirs while those who went out for breakfast became the Bible-sitters.
Bravo said:
That was the last one I was at, and your comparison was precisely what was in my mind. Perhaps this is piling on but JS sure did take to a new level alright... a much lower level. Frankly, I'm surprised their are still 1500 teenagers in America with youth directors/pastors that want to send their kids there at the moment. I think YC can still muddle along, and I think it needs to for HAC's sake, but it isn't ever going to return to what it was. There was already a bad leak in the tire, so to speak, before it blew, and you just don't put things back together again when the disaster was that magnitude.
I've seen what happens to churches/ministries before when this kind of thing happens, only this was worse. In the weeks immediately afterward fb was full of messages like, 'The old church downtown was still packed today; the spirit was sweet; we're moving forward' as if the nightmare was just a bad dream that everybody just woke up from. The simple truth is that the consequences of a long series of bad decisions culminating in an awful decision will go on for years and years and years...
On a side note but not totally unrelated,... back when the search for a pastor was going on,... There was a pulpit commitee seeking God's guidance and Eddie L was on a steering commitee ostensibly to help God,... But the rumor was Eddie was pushing for Rick Finley to be THE candidate. Word is that after much "griping" that Eddie stepped down from the steering commitee or it was disbanded altogether. Now it's YC ( Eddie's baby) and Rick Finley is speaking. Is he known for being a teen speaker?
Anyone have any opinions on the line up of speakers for this year? Kurt Skelly, Rick Finley. I get Scott Gray. I get Freddie DeAnda.but the others? Any thoughts?
Anyone have any opinions on the line up of speakers for this year? Kurt Skelly, Rick Finley. I get Scott Gray. I get Freddie DeAnda.but the others? Any thoughts?
Bravo said:
This appears to have the "clarence sexton" choices influencing Lapina. Sexton was wanting Finley to get the FBC pastorate and he just had Skelly at his Youth Congress in TN. I'm very sure that when Sexton was brought in just after Schaap's removal, he gave Lapina advice----lots of it. He even had contemplated coming to Hammond and pastoring it and getting it "back into shape" but then decided against. Was this ever offered to C Sexton "officially"? I don't know. But many of Crown's youth meetings and FBC's meetings seem very similar.
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Bravo said:
"Eddie L was on a steering commitee ostensibly to help God,..." ROFL
had I had liquid in my mouth, I would have spewed it all over my laptop!Opinions on the lineup? Bleh... I wish they had not asked Ken Schaap. Not necessarily Ken's fault. Just don't want to see that last name on a lineup of any conference for a while. If I had to guess, that would have been Brian Hasse's doing. He's a big Ken fan. Once again, Ken's between a rock and a hard place. I by no means tie or associate him to/with his father's actions over the past few years.
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Tom Brennan said:
i wholeheartedly agree with your assessment and analysis.