Would Schapp still be pastor

[Binaca Chugger]

You know how it all comes out though.  Look at the Cosby fiasco.  Once one woman came out, others followed suit like the proverbial breaking of the dam.
If there were more from Schaap's situation, why haven't they come out? 
Don't say fear b/c there are plenty of other accusers of other staff members/pastors/etc. etc. over the years.
Even if there were a 'hint' of others, SFL would be all over it like a bum on a cheap suit.
ABG would be touting it like it was the second coming of Billy Graham.

If you look up the Chicago magazine piece on JS from later that summer you will find quotes in it from a former poster here. I knew her well. She was once one of my busworkers. She counseled with him extensively in private regarding her marriage, and the wildly inappropriate conversation JS used in those counseling sessions was the reason they left the church and moved to a distant state - more than a year before JS was caught. What I am trying to say is that I do think others have come out, namely her. She told me, privately, some of the things he said to her in those counseling sessions and I cannot bring myself to even type them on an open forum.

I do not believe the situation with the teenage girl was an isolated event. And even if I'm wrong it was something he had been soliciting/seeking/reaching toward for some YEARS. He didn't fall. He jumped. Repeatedly.

I do remember that situation now, but was there actual a physical relationship with anyone?

Some people that I trust have mentioned two other situations with Jack

He spent a lot of time with the '12 senior class in fall of '11 and spring of '12 (flying to a youth rally in MI, meeting on senior trip, et) that he did not do with the other senior classes the previous 10 years.  It looks like it did not get very far (probably why it isn't known) and then the reason he is in jail came to his attention.

A physical relationship with a 60+ year old married woman from 2010 (I have mentioned this previously)  She would want to keep her name out of it for many reasons. (Bizarre would describe this situation)

Jack was a wolf on the hunt.  This is the man that FBC had as pastor - without a protest from Eddie, Terry, Cindy or the like. 

Correct.  My sources tell me the same thing.  He would probably still be married today were it not for a new "friend" he made since his sentencing. Or, so I am told.

 

[Binaca Chugger]

See...this is the stuff that gets me.....

A woman puts on a pair of pants and she isn't even worthy enough to work in the nursery! Buuuuut.....the Associate Pastor can get up and LIE to the entire congregation....and somehow that's ok. The pastor has an obviously inappropriate whatever with a  teenager in his church and he is offered a 6-month sabbatical.  Meanwhile a girl goes to an animated Disney movie at the theater with her father and is kicked off the cheerleading squad.  The youth pastor can cheat playing games and it's funny.  But a kid cheats on a test and he gets a zero.  50 demerits for kissing your girlfriend... 0 demerits for gossip/slander/false accusation. 

No wonder young adults are leaving by the droves. 

I believe we have a serious heart issue in our ranks.  Rules have replaced relationship. And we are seeing the results.

Agree 100%.  Notice how Eddie has been within arm's reach of every scandal of FBCH?

I keep saying that there is more to this scoundrel than has come out.  Maybe there is a story behind his nickname?  Not sure.  I do know the forwardness with girls that I witnessed in public speaks to a deeper problem in private.

 

[prophet]

See...this is the stuff that gets me.....

A woman puts on a pair of pants and she isn't even worthy enough to work in the nursery! Buuuuut.....the Associate Pastor can get up and LIE to the entire congregation....and somehow that's ok. The pastor has an obviously inappropriate whatever with a  teenager in his church and he is offered a 6-month sabbatical.  Meanwhile a girl goes to an animated Disney movie at the theater with her father and is kicked off the cheerleading squad.  The youth pastor can cheat playing games and it's funny.  But a kid cheats on a test and he gets a zero.  50 demerits for kissing your girlfriend... 0 demerits for gossip/slander/false accusation. 

No wonder young adults are leaving by the droves. 

I believe we have a serious heart issue in our ranks.  Rules have replaced relationship. And we are seeing the results.

Agree 100%.  Notice how Eddie has been within arm's reach of every scandal of FBCH?

I keep saying that there is more to this scoundrel than has come out.  Maybe there is a story behind his nickname?  Not sure.  I do know the forwardness with girls that I witnessed in public speaks to a deeper problem in private.

You mean the fact that he was always surrounded by fawning teen girls, who he "flirted" with constantly?

I couldn't even ask him a question about life, when I was a teen, he would just mock me in front of his groupies, and then blow me off.

Or did you see something else?

 

[Binaca Chugger]

See...this is the stuff that gets me.....

A woman puts on a pair of pants and she isn't even worthy enough to work in the nursery! Buuuuut.....the Associate Pastor can get up and LIE to the entire congregation....and somehow that's ok. The pastor has an obviously inappropriate whatever with a  teenager in his church and he is offered a 6-month sabbatical.  Meanwhile a girl goes to an animated Disney movie at the theater with her father and is kicked off the cheerleading squad.  The youth pastor can cheat playing games and it's funny.  But a kid cheats on a test and he gets a zero.  50 demerits for kissing your girlfriend... 0 demerits for gossip/slander/false accusation. 

No wonder young adults are leaving by the droves. 

I believe we have a serious heart issue in our ranks.  Rules have replaced relationship. And we are seeing the results.

Agree 100%.  Notice how Eddie has been within arm's reach of every scandal of FBCH?

I keep saying that there is more to this scoundrel than has come out.  Maybe there is a story behind his nickname?  Not sure.  I do know the forwardness with girls that I witnessed in public speaks to a deeper problem in private.

You mean the fact that he was always surrounded by fawning teen girls, who he "flirted" with constantly?

I couldn't even ask him a question about life, when I was a teen, he would just mock me in front of his groupies, and then blow me off.

Or did you see something else?

That, coupled with the way he would snuggle with those girls on bus rides.  Boyfriends would be in the back of the bus absolutely fuming about how Eddie La P... was allowed to snuggle up with another guy's girlfriend and drape a hand here and there that would "inadvertently" brush this and that.

Everywhere he went that gaggle of gals followed him, always too many people in a seat, always packed in, always physical contact.