Worst form of cursing

[Biker]

Any man who brings division to the body of Christ through rejecting scripture is a heretic.  Castor chooses to reject the canon of scripture accepted by the body of Christ down through the centuries.  He picks and chooses what he believes to be scripture.  Why don't you start a funny God joke thread.  As long as you don't use the f-word or d-word with it I'm sure it will be OK.  Your use of the name of God is offensive.

Why don't you start a funny God joke thread.  As long as you don't use the f-word or d-word with it I'm sure it will be OK.  Your use of the name of God is offensive.

The Cussing, referencing the F word above is YOUR typing, own it. Threads titled- Taking the Lords Name in Vain Thread , Hellywood link were started by you. You have it covered by far.

The constant name calling is getting old. Castor being attacked twice and your 2-3 Videos of John Piper titled " Crusty Legalist Fundamentalist blah blah blah" are uncalled for. I expect you wouldn't like me much since Piper and MacArthur hold to the majority of my views (or vice versa) please tone it down.

What you oppose is found in YOUR OWN posts. Nevertheless, sometimes bad things happen in life that changes us. Please Feel free to send me a message if you need to talk, we've all been there.  Mike



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[Izdaari]

The constant name calling is getting old. Castor being attacked twice and your 2-3 Videos of John Piper titled " Crusty Legalist Fundamentalist blah blah blah" are uncalled for. I expect you wouldn't like me since Piper and MacArthur hold to the majority of my views (or vice versa) please tone it down.

Oddly enough, some might think, this ecumenical Episcopalian agrees with Piper on most things, and MacArthur on many things. Piper seems reasonable and likable to me even when we disagree, but I don't care for MacArthur's "my way or the highway" attitude even when I think he's right.

 

[Biker]

The constant name calling is getting old. Castor being attacked twice and your 2-3 Videos of John Piper titled " Crusty Legalist Fundamentalist blah blah blah" are uncalled for. I expect you wouldn't like me since Piper and MacArthur hold to the majority of my views (or vice versa) please tone it down.

Oddly enough, some might think, this ecumenical Episcopalian agrees with Piper on most things, and MacArthur on many things. Piper seems reasonable and likable to me even when we disagree, but I don't care for MacArthur's "my way or the highway" attitude even when I think he's right.

I'll have to look up  ecumenical Episcopalian when I get time. Till then, so far, so good~ 
When I first started attending, I listened to MacArthur once. Then didn't for months but cannot recall why. Something akin to what you are feeling, the it's my way or the highway attitude. Been in our church about 4 years now.

MacArthur and Piper seem very straightforward, hold to a level of class that doesn't allow such antics such as sarcasm and rudeness. Arrogance, maybe a little (McArthur). But wow is he an outstanding Bible Teacher. The only thing  that caused a bit of a conflict once in our church was his belief in Psychiatry. Our Pastor is closely aligned. They tend to lean toward NOT taking psychotropic drugs, and  Biblical Counseling takes place within the church. Though it is really not Counseling, more of just directing the person to scripture to offer encouragement, solutions and hope.

My pastor believes Piper should separate more than he does, otherwise he finds him sincere.

You and Piper would probably get along great. I bet you'd like his church

 

[Izdaari]

Thanks, Biker!  :-*

Piper seems to be a Reformed Baptist, and I don't have any particular problem with that theologically, though I do prefer a church with more liberal social attitudes than his probably has, and I prefer a liturgical style of service. He does seem to be a good speaker and a good pastor, so I could probably hang out there a bit without being too unhappy.

"Ecumenical Episcopalian" isn't a phrase with any special meaning, just the ordinary meanings of those two words separately.

Ecumenical = I believe in getting Christians together rather than separating them. I don't think your pastor would like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenism

Episcopalian = The Episcopal Church, TEC for short. The American branch of the Anglican Church aka the Church of England. Widely criticized by fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals for liberal positions, so probably your pastor would like that even less. Some fundamentalists also criticize it for being too similar to Catholicism; that's pretty much true for style (and I like that), not very true for doctrine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_%28United_States%29

 

[Biker]

Thanks for the info I tried to skim your link. I don't use the "preview button" when creating a post because it is tiny black words on white background which is difficult for my eyes, your link has alot to digest on one page. So you'll see me post a thread then take a while to edit it. Could just tell me what you are referring to?

I saw nothing "liberal" but that's subjective. About the Litugy Services, I've been to a few at the Lutheran church and really enjoyed it. But overall, the repetition each and every week wouldn't fill my appetite for the meat of the word (solid food) It's really for those enjoying Milk still, unless I am misunderstanding what a Litugy service is. Maybe you could attend your church in the morning then attend a church which offers expository preaching in the evening, or vice versa. Just an idea.

Hope you're having a nice evening. My wife is gone to a friends for a few hours, they are watching a chick movie. I am BORED stiff.

Blessings,  :-*  Mike

Hebrews 5: 12-14 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.







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[Izdaari]

Thanks for the info I tried to skim your link. I don't use the "preview button" when creating a post because it is tiny black words on white background which is difficult for my eyes, your link has alot to digest on one page. So you'll see me post a thread then take a while to edit it. Could just tell me what you are referring to?

Ok, now I'm confused. What was it you wanted to know about?

I saw nothing "liberal" but that's subjective. About the Litugy Services, I've been to a few at the Lutheran church and really enjoyed it. But overall, the repetition each and every week wouldn't fill my appetite for the meat of the word (solid food) It's really for those enjoying Milk still, unless I am misunderstanding what a Litugy service is. Maybe you could attend your church in the morning then attend a church which offers expository preaching in the evening, or vice versa. Just an idea.

Good thought, but morning church is out for me because of my work schedule. I work into the wee hours of Sunday morning, so if I managed to get up in time, I'd probably sleep through the sermon. One reason I picked my current church is that the main service is in the evening. While I am always eager to learn more "meat", I find I do that best through books. Otherwise, I know some good preachers on Youtube and podcast.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Biker]I saw nothing "liberal" but that's subjective. About the Litugy Services, I've been to a few at the Lutheran church and really enjoyed it. But overall, the repetition each and every week wouldn't fill my appetite for the meat of the word (solid food) It's really for those enjoying Milk still, unless I am misunderstanding what a Litugy service is. Maybe you could attend your church in the morning then attend a church which offers expository preaching in the evening, or vice versa. Just an idea. [/quote]

You can have a service that is both heavy on liturgy and expository preaching. Also, liturgical services are heavy on the idea that the church is not individual in nature, but corporate. When you understand liturgical services, they are definitely not milk.

 

[Izdaari]

[quote author=Biker]I saw nothing "liberal" but that's subjective. About the Litugy Services, I've been to a few at the Lutheran church and really enjoyed it. But overall, the repetition each and every week wouldn't fill my appetite for the meat of the word (solid food) It's really for those enjoying Milk still, unless I am misunderstanding what a Litugy service is. Maybe you could attend your church in the morning then attend a church which offers expository preaching in the evening, or vice versa. Just an idea.

You can have a service that is both heavy on liturgy and expository preaching. Also, liturgical services are heavy on the idea that the church is not individual in nature, but corporate. When you understand liturgical services, they are definitely not milk.
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Agreed. Although in most liturgical churches, the length of the sermon is normally fairly short, because there's so much else to fit in, i.e., every Sunday is a communion service. They make up for it in the amount of Scripture that's read and sung together, and a message doesn't necessarily have to be long to be powerful.

 

[Biker]

[quote author=Biker]I saw nothing "liberal" but that's subjective. About the Litugy Services, I've been to a few at the Lutheran church and really enjoyed it. But overall, the repetition each and every week wouldn't fill my appetite for the meat of the word (solid food) It's really for those enjoying Milk still, unless I am misunderstanding what a Litugy service is. Maybe you could attend your church in the morning then attend a church which offers expository preaching in the evening, or vice versa. Just an idea.

You can have a service that is both heavy on liturgy and expository preaching. Also, liturgical services are heavy on the idea that the church is not individual in nature, but corporate. When you understand liturgical services, they are definitely not milk.
[/quote] Wow shorter services... liturgy style with Expository Preaching. I must be dreaming lol 8)  thanks for the heads up

 

[Biker]

Ok, now I'm confused. What was it you wanted to know about?

I suppose the liberal part you referred to. Didn't seem to be liberal when I checked it out maybe 4-5 years ago as a newbie Christian (but I know times change, and liberal is subjective)

One reason I picked my current church is that the main service is in the evening. While I am always eager to learn more "meat", I find I do that best through books. Otherwise, I know some good preachers on Youtube and podcast.

I know a reallycool bike rider who wants to attend church with you this Sunday Evening 

Anyhow, it sounds good to me.

 

[Izdaari]

Well, here's our main doctrine, the catechism in short form:

* Jesus Christ is fully human and fully God. He died and was resurrected from the dead.

* Jesus provides the way of eternal life for those who believe.

* God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit, are one God, and are called the Holy Trinity ("three and yet one").

* The Old and New Testaments of the Bible were written by people "under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit." The Apocrypha are additional books that are used in Christian worship, but not for the formation of doctrine.

* The two great and necessary sacraments are Holy Baptism and Holy Eucharist.

* Other sacramental rites are confirmation, ordination, marriage, reconciliation of a penitent, and unction.

* Belief in heaven, hell, and Jesus' return in glory.

* Emphasis on living out the Great Commandment to love God and neighbor fully, as found in the Gospel of Matthew 22:36-40.

As you can see, all totally standard orthodox stuff.

We get called liberal mainly over sexual and social issues, not over theology. I'll talk more about this later, I need to get to bed now.

 

[Biker]

It's fine to just skip it Izdarri, no problem.
Sleep tight