Who Inherited Hyles' Estate?

[no value]

Seems as if I heard or read sometime ago that Jack Hyles' was quite wealthy when he died. Just curious, did Beverly get it all after her husband's passing? or was his empire divided between the kiddies? And if, Jack and Cindy got any of Daddy Warbucks moolah, she may have made out quite well in the divorce settlement. Unless of course, they had to pay the victim of Jack's dalliances.

 

[Techmedic]

Linda said in her TED talk that he left it all to the church and left nothing to the kids. So based on that... I'd say JS squandered it away

 

[kaba]

She also said Jack Hyles owned everything! He did not! And that lie causes me to question other thinks she says in her speech and chapters she has released.  He probably had $ from book sales, speaking engagements and any investments he might have had. How else could a woman who was a housewife all her life retire in Texas and not have to find a job after her husband dies.

 

[qwerty]

I got the Seifer building. My penthouse is on the top floor.

 

[Fresh Air]

I got the Seifer building. My penthouse is on the top floor.

ROFLOL

 

[prophet]

I got the Seifer building. My penthouse is on the top floor.

Then It's a shame we took out the elevator. 
I bet you're in shape!

 

[Bravo]

She also said Jack Hyles owned everything! He did not! And that lie causes me to question other thinks she says in her speech and chapters she has released.  He probably had $ from book sales, speaking engagements and any investments he might have had. How else could a woman who was a housewife all her life retire in Texas and not have to find a job after her husband dies.

I recently re-watched a bit of her speech (The Truth About HYLES) but still find so many obvious errors in her story that I can't buy any of it.

 

[kaba]

I know what you mean. I am sure she did have somewhat of a tough child-teen-young adult life, and we may never know the ultimate truth. But she does have a lot of untruths in her speech.

 

[Techmedic]

I took it with a HUGE dose of salt when her speech started off with "He had this and left us nothing" That said I'm angry about this. I have not read her book... I refuse to spend $2 a chapter... Put it all together and release the whole thing instead of trying to bank off of this... Meh my 2 pennies

 

[kaba]

I took it with a HUGE dose of salt when her speech started off with "He had this and left us nothing" That said I'm angry about this. I have not read her book... I refuse to spend $2 a chapter... Put it all together and release the whole thing instead of trying to bank off of this... Meh my 2 pennies

Almost sounded like someone was bitter about not getting any money! I guess technically when he died everything he left behind should go to his wife, and when she dies then it gets divided within the kids. Why take $ away from the widow?

 

[rsc2a]

And the widow should tithe in it,  then the kids.  Don't want to steal from God. 

 

[Techmedic]

Thanks... You made me think of a thread I wanted to know about...

 

[breslau]

She must have inherited the "gift" of exaggeration from her dad.  Maybe she is still on the KGB hit list.

 

[lnf]

I would hope that Mrs. Hyles did inherit the bulk of his estate!  When my dad passed, my brother and I got next to nothing...but one might say my brother got more than I did, because he got my dad's gun collection and tools.  I got the pocketknife that my dad carried in his pocket every single day for as long as I can remember. 

Truth be told, my son ended up with most of the guns...because my husband bought them from my brother.  That's a wonderful "inheritance" for my son, because he is an avid sportsman. 

But, in all reality, I got the best inheritance of all...my dad's personal pocketknife!  It's a treasure beyond price!!

If any of the Hyles children felt "cheated", well, I pity them.   

 

[bgwilkinson]

She must have inherited the "gift" of exaggeration from her dad.  Maybe she is still on the KGB hit list.

Yes I believe you are on to something here.

She most definitely learned the art of embellished exaggeration from her dad.

Over the years his stories had become ever more and more fantastic, more and more unbelievable.

I recommend reading the Hammond Baptist Pulpit series as it is quit reveling of this one characteristic.

He was always the hero, he never lost.

I would not be surprised if she believes some of those things were true when they were in fact false.

She grew up in that environment not knowing for sure what the reality was or was not.

Who was the real Jack Hyles? The one she saw at home out of public view or the one she saw at church performing in the pulpit.

I believe all of the so-called estate went to Mrs. Hyles.

 

[RAIDER]

She must have inherited the "gift" of exaggeration from her dad.  Maybe she is still on the KGB hit list.

Yes I believe you are on to something here.

She most definitely learned the art of embellished exaggeration from her dad.

Over the years his stories had become ever more and more fantastic, more and more unbelievable.

I recommend reading the Hammond Baptist Pulpit series as it is quit reveling of this one characteristic.

He was always the hero, he never lost.

I would not be surprised if she believes some of those things were true when they were in fact false.

She grew up in that environment not knowing for sure what the reality was or was not.

Do we have any examples of Dr. Hyles' stories being false?

 

[kaba]

She must have inherited the "gift" of exaggeration from her dad.  Maybe she is still on the KGB hit list.

Yes I believe you are on to something here.

She most definitely learned the art of embellished exaggeration from her dad.

Over the years his stories had become ever more and more fantastic, more and more unbelievable.

I recommend reading the Hammond Baptist Pulpit series as it is quit reveling of this one characteristic.

He was always the hero, he never lost.

I would not be surprised if she believes some of those things were true when they were in fact false.

She grew up in that environment not knowing for sure what the reality was or was not.

Who was the real Jack Hyles? The one she saw at home out of public view or the one she saw at church performing in the pulpit.

I believe all of the so-called estate went to Mrs. Hyles.

Then her beef would be with Beverly not First Baptist and their members.

 

[GuyfawkesV49]

She also said Jack Hyles owned everything! He did not! And that lie causes me to question other thinks she says in her speech and chapters she has released.  He probably had $ from book sales, speaking engagements and any investments he might have had. How else could a woman who was a housewife all her life retire in Texas and not have to find a job after her husband dies.

That was probably a poor choice of words on her part-she should have said her dad CONTROLLED everything.  Of course he is not going to own the church properties in his name and be subject to federal income taxes-just common sense it would be in the churches name.

 

[qwerty]

She also said Jack Hyles owned everything! He did not! And that lie causes me to question other thinks she says in her speech and chapters she has released.  He probably had $ from book sales, speaking engagements and any investments he might have had. How else could a woman who was a housewife all her life retire in Texas and not have to find a job after her husband dies.

That was probably a poor choice of words on her part-she should have said her dad CONTROLLED everything.  Of course he is not going to own the church properties in his name and be subject to federal income taxes-just common sense it would be in the churches name.

I would have expected better from a "Certified Professional Coach" giving a speech... hope she takes better care when providing her services..... "In-person sessions are available in Southern California. Skype or telephone sessions also available. Cost per session/call ranges from $125-$150, paid in advance".

 

[bgwilkinson]

She must have inherited the "gift" of exaggeration from her dad.  Maybe she is still on the KGB hit list.

Yes I believe you are on to something here.

She most definitely learned the art of embellished exaggeration from her dad.

Over the years his stories had become ever more and more fantastic, more and more unbelievable.

I recommend reading the Hammond Baptist Pulpit series as it is quit reveling of this one characteristic.

He was always the hero, he never lost.

I would not be surprised if she believes some of those things were true when they were in fact false.

She grew up in that environment not knowing for sure what the reality was or was not.

Do we have any examples of Dr. Hyles' stories being false?

I used the term embellish exaggeration because there was always an element of truth in the story.

For example you may have heard the number of about 4,000 in attendance at Miller Road.

Here is a link to the street view pics of Miller Road as it appears today.

Incidentally Miller Road as a Baptist Church is defunct. The Building was sold to a Spanish speaking group and the people merged with Open Door Baptist Church.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8944008,-96.6505037,3a,75y,208.72h,87.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sEq5s5h-G0cIBjFAE8EFrZQ!2e0

My parents were home misonaries and we traveled through Dallas on the way to South Texas where they had most of their works.

I have vivid memories of Miller Road from 57, 58 and 59. The buildings were then as they are now.

It takes a great imagination to believe there were over 4,000 people there at one time on a Sunday Morn.

4,000 people would have covered that block.

The auditorium was not packed out any of the times I was there.

We traveled through Dallas about 4 times a year and always stopped to see Bro. Hyles. So I would have been there at least a dozen times between 1956 and 1959.

The auditorium seated about 500 people, and that was packed. There was always room to find a seat when we were there.

See link for PDF of property details from the sale in 2008.

http://www.churchrealty.com/pdf/p712_PACKET%20-%20Miller%20Rd%20Baptist.pdf

Bro. Hyles always was giving his Sunday School attendance and did not include the evening service or the morning service either.

When Churches give their attendances now they add all the numbers from all their services on a week-end (Sat. included) that is not how Bro Hyles counted it.

If I get time I'll tell you about the time we had 32,500 in attendance for Sunday School at FBCH.

Embellish exaggeration, some call it lying, I can not bring myself to call it that, yet. Massive Fudge Factor.

Yep, Linda learned from daddy.