What event(s) opened your eyes

rsc2a said:
[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Have straws, will grasp.
What a crock!
You have not a Biblical leg to stand on with your incremental salvation eh...ah...fantasy?

Yes...I asked you a question you never answered. When were you saved?
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When will you complete your process and 'become' saved?
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Have straws, will grasp.
What a crock!
You have not a Biblical leg to stand on with your incremental salvation eh...ah...fantasy?

Yes...I asked you a question you never answered. When were you saved?

When will you complete your process and 'become' saved?[/quote]

I am saved. I am also being saved. I will also be saved.
 
[quote author=Torrent v.3]I was chosen before the foundation of the world...

...But I was saved when I heard the word, the Holy Spirit regenerated me and I believed.[/quote]

What makes you think these are different?
 
rsc2a said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Have straws, will grasp.
What a crock!
You have not a Biblical leg to stand on with your incremental salvation eh...ah...fantasy?

Yes...I asked you a question you never answered. When were you saved?

When will you complete your process and 'become' saved?

I am saved. I am also being saved. I will also be saved.
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I think you are using the term "saved" as I would use the term "sanctified."
 
Binaca Chugger said:
rsc2a said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Have straws, will grasp.
What a crock!
You have not a Biblical leg to stand on with your incremental salvation eh...ah...fantasy?

Yes...I asked you a question you never answered. When were you saved?

When will you complete your process and 'become' saved?

I am saved. I am also being saved. I will also be saved.

I think you are using the term "saved" as I would use the term "sanctified."[/quote]

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. - 2 Thess 2:13

:)

Justification, sanctification, glorification...all part of "salvation".  See also...

...which states...

...The experience of salvation begins with regeneration and justification, continues with sanctification, and is fulfilled in glorification. All who are regenerated and justified are being sanctified. All who are being sanctified will eventually be glorified. While we may distinguish between regeneration, justification, sanctification, and glorification, we must not separate them. In other words, the person who truly experiences one will experience them all (and in the order listed.)

So the old theological shorthand that “we have been saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved” applies here. Sanctification isn’t included in the “we have been saved” part of salvation, but it is synonymous with the “we are being saved” part. And without sanctification, there is no “we will be saved...”
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Have straws, will grasp.
What a crock!
You have not a Biblical leg to stand on with your incremental salvation eh...ah...fantasy?

Yes...I asked you a question you never answered. When were you saved?

When will you complete your process and 'become' saved?
[/quote]

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rsc2a said:
[quote author=Torrent v.3]I was chosen before the foundation of the world...

...But I was saved when I heard the word, the Holy Spirit regenerated me and I believed.

What makes you think these are different?
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What makes me? Conventional Christian usage, and the Bible.
 
my eyes began to come unglued when my oldest son was lead to say "the prayer" by an alter worker at VBS when he was just 5 years old.  I'm not saying a 5 year old can't understand the Gospel, but my son even told them it was an accident that he got herded up to the front w/ the rest of group. 
"Why did you come forward?" "because everybody else did!! *giggles*"  yea... the Holy Spirit was really dealing w/ his heart  ::) but he got lead to say "the prayer" anyhow.  >:(
 
MrsRow said:
my eyes began to come unglued when my oldest son was lead to say "the prayer" by an alter worker at VBS when he was just 5 years old.  I'm not saying a 5 year old can't understand the Gospel, but my son even told them it was an accident that he got herded up to the front w/ the rest of group. 
"Why did you come forward?" "because everybody else did!! *giggles*"  yea... the Holy Spirit was really dealing w/ his heart  ::) but he got lead to say "the prayer" anyhow.  >:(

This kind of stuff really iritates me. I wont rant here as I have an entire thread on the subject before which you should check out and was one of the things that opened my eyes as well.
 
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