The Republican Playbook for the Future
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But…you keep skipping over the part about the increased baby boomers pulling social security benefits, which was signed into law by presidents prior to Trump. It’s just a fact that there was a huge jump in the number of retirees during those years. You also are skipping over the entire coronavirus pandemic stimulus checks, which received broad bipartisan support. This is why your claim is rated “mostly false” on the website. Regardless, the economy under Trump was on fire with low inflation, employment, and higher wages…but keep spinning it how you want."Treasury Department data shows the gross federal debt rose by about $7.8 trillion on Trump’s watch. But that wasn’t the biggest increase of any president in raw dollars.
The record for the largest increase was set by President Barack Obama, with more than $9.5 trillion.
One caveat: Obama’s figure is larger than Trump’s partly because Obama served eight years, while Trump served four.
If you adjust the measurement for that reality by looking at debt accumulated per year in office, Trump does stand alone."
Did Trump rack up more debt than any other president?
As White House and congressional Republican negotiators met to hammer out a way to raise the nation’s debt limit, Housewww.politifact.com
Vance/Vivek - unfortunately they are both from the same state.
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I've spent much of my life crossing that state. My family lives in Indiana and KY. I guess OH has redeemed itself since it's no longer a swing state.A very great state indeed.
Go Bucks!
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You need to take a deep breath and unburden yourself from what has been .
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My wife and I were talking about this on Tuesday evening. Vance would definitely be able to fight against the slimy MSM and the leftist machine.
Dude, you know Vance is set up perfectly. He has no skeletons in his closet. Just go read Hillbilly Elegy and you will see. He has some Christian upbringing, so he will court evangelicals like nobody's business. And he is a genuine genius, good looking, a good speaker. The future of the GOP. I just hope he doesn't have a stupid Monica Lewinsky moment.
And that buffoon ruined a lot of good people's lives.
The numbers tell a slightly different story"Treasury Department data shows the gross federal debt rose by about $7.8 trillion on Trump’s watch. But that wasn’t the biggest increase of any president in raw dollars.
The record for the largest increase was set by President Barack Obama, with more than $9.5 trillion.
One caveat: Obama’s figure is larger than Trump’s partly because Obama served eight years, while Trump served four.
If you adjust the measurement for that reality by looking at debt accumulated per year in office, Trump does stand alone."
Did Trump rack up more debt than any other president?
As White House and congressional Republican negotiators met to hammer out a way to raise the nation’s debt limit, House
Trump deficits
2017 $665 billion
2018 $779 billion
2019 $984 billion
2020 $3.1 trillion (includes 1.6 trillon in covid spending and stimulas
Biden Deficit
2021 $2.8 trillion Includes 1.4 trillion in covid spending and srtimulas.
2022 $1.4 trillion
2023 $1.7 trillion
2024 $1.8 trillion so far.
Trump caved and signed the Democrats excessive stimulas spending packages after threating to VETO if they did not reduce it.
Really, he was a terrible president but he is a good man. I believe based on his testimony he is a saved man. I wish people would have respect for the office even if they don't always like the policies. Not that anybody cares, but I think its beneath this site to portray a former president in such a way. I believe we are better than that. I have often said Jimmy Carter was the worst president in my lifetime, but likely the most moral and respectable of them all. Not sure if I should be Sad or Angry.
Hey, I’m the biggest Carter fan on this forum, and even I thought it was funny. BTW, I’d argue he wasn’t a terrible (maybe average) president, but that deserves its own thread, which I believe has been done in the past.
The statistics are for past administrations. Biden is still in office (so they say). His stats will be forthcoming. "Trump caved" - I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Nearly every president caves on something...it's just how big a cave that matters.
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That doesn’t remove the responsibility from him. If he signed it belongs to him. Much like a student's loan debts.
And it was a pretty big cave wouldn’t you agree?
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Did I say it absolves him of any responsibility? NO, I did NOT! Pull your head out of your bottom. All presidents make what are considered "pretty big caves." Grow up.
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My apologies. It did seem to be a minimization of his responsibilities regarding the national debt. The hole was dug during his presidency. Intentionally or by caving to pressure, he owns it and it goes on his side of the ledger when comparing his deficits to those of Mr. Biden.
Increased Social Security payments and COVID contributed to that.
Aren’t you the guy I tried to explain this to about a week ago?
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I know what the money was for. The point is that the responsibility falls on Mr. Trump for the checks he signed. Just like every other president. No one gets to say this or that expenditure shouldn’t count because bad things happened. Covid is also the “reason” given for much of Mr. Bidens deficits. If Mr. Trump gets a pass then the same should hold for Biden. Now from my perspective both of them blew up the budget and added to the deficit at levels far beyond any reasonable amount.
Pray tell, what is “reasonable”?