The Presidential Vote

[Tarheel Baptist]

Personally, since the SCOTUS' ruling on marriage I will not sign a gubmit marriage license bu perform Biblical Marriage Covenant ceremonies. The government doesn't define marriage as I do, based on Scripture.

And you should not be forced to go against your beliefs in this matter.

It is clear in the NT that the church should provide a safety net for her body. The government historically is filled with waste and corruption, not a single gubmit controlled success story to be found.....USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela......

And how many of those countries are democratic in government? Or are they all dictatorships?

An argument you, Smells and liberal idiocy have no answer for is that no one ever built a cardboard boat to escape capitalism for socialism. 

Yep. We need to get rid of the government helping people. Let's rid the country of the FDA. No need for the government to put any restrictions on our food quality. Food manufacturers should be able to put what they want in their foods and not need any quality control. Kids get sick and die? So be it. Free market at its best. No "gubming" controlling our food supply. Water? No need to test that either. The "gubmint" should just let those poor people in Flint die due to water contamination. It isn't "gubmint" business what people drink. If they can't boil their own water, they are just lazy slobs anyway. Collecting them "gubmint" checks while sitting on their lazy keesters, too lazy to boil their own water for their own health.

And ambulance/fire services? No need for them either. Neighbors should be helping neighbors, so if your house is on fire, they can grab their garden hoses and spray down your house. The well being of citizenry should be with the citizens along and the "gubmint" should use those funds used to protect our citizens should go to develop weapons to bomb the crap out of the Middle East instead.

Nope. Government shouldn't exist for the benefit of its citizenry. It goes against our freedoms to be restricted like this and to have them suck away our hard-earned dollars to help homeless kids and the elderly. We don't owe them anything but to tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Building that raft to take you to Cuba? 

So yes or now. Should the government play any role in the development and maintenance of the health and safety of its citizenry?

Of course they do.
Fire, health and safety are legitimate roles of gubmit.

Now, why don't people ever flee capitalistic countries for communist, socialist countries?

So you are for government responsibility for the well being of its citizens. But I guess it is only on 'your' terms. And if anybody disagrees with you, he is automatically a socialist/communist.

How many of those "socialistic" countries which are being avoided are democratic (little "d") in their structure? Or are they programmed to keep the same personnel in the position of ultimate power for decades?

As I have stated before, your vacuous arguments in defense of your liberal positions are hardly convincing...to say the least. Read the liberal socialist democrat party platform.....it walks and quacks like a socialist political duck.

History is history....no amount of shucking, jiving and dodging can change it...unless one is an low information, no information democrat voter....."give me my obama-phone"!

And, I am not against helping the poor and downtrodden, in fact I actually DO IT, and not just talk about it on the Internet and in gubmit meetings! 

Click your heels three times and say there's no place like a liberal socialist utopia. And there is no animal like the unicorn!  :

 

[LongGone]

Personally, since the SCOTUS' ruling on marriage I will not sign a gubmit marriage license bu perform Biblical Marriage Covenant ceremonies. The government doesn't define marriage as I do, based on Scripture.

And you should not be forced to go against your beliefs in this matter.

It is clear in the NT that the church should provide a safety net for her body. The government historically is filled with waste and corruption, not a single gubmit controlled success story to be found.....USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela......

And how many of those countries are democratic in government? Or are they all dictatorships?

An argument you, Smells and liberal idiocy have no answer for is that no one ever built a cardboard boat to escape capitalism for socialism. 

Yep. We need to get rid of the government helping people. Let's rid the country of the FDA. No need for the government to put any restrictions on our food quality. Food manufacturers should be able to put what they want in their foods and not need any quality control. Kids get sick and die? So be it. Free market at its best. No "gubming" controlling our food supply. Water? No need to test that either. The "gubmint" should just let those poor people in Flint die due to water contamination. It isn't "gubmint" business what people drink. If they can't boil their own water, they are just lazy slobs anyway. Collecting them "gubmint" checks while sitting on their lazy keesters, too lazy to boil their own water for their own health.

And ambulance/fire services? No need for them either. Neighbors should be helping neighbors, so if your house is on fire, they can grab their garden hoses and spray down your house. The well being of citizenry should be with the citizens along and the "gubmint" should use those funds used to protect our citizens should go to develop weapons to bomb the crap out of the Middle East instead.

Nope. Government shouldn't exist for the benefit of its citizenry. It goes against our freedoms to be restricted like this and to have them suck away our hard-earned dollars to help homeless kids and the elderly. We don't owe them anything but to tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Building that raft to take you to Cuba? 

So yes or now. Should the government play any role in the development and maintenance of the health and safety of its citizenry?

Of course they do.
Fire, health and safety are legitimate roles of gubmit.

Now, why don't people ever flee capitalistic countries for communist, socialist countries?

So you are for government responsibility for the well being of its citizens. But I guess it is only on 'your' terms. And if anybody disagrees with you, he is automatically a socialist/communist.

How many of those "socialistic" countries which are being avoided are democratic (little "d") in their structure? Or are they programmed to keep the same personnel in the position of ultimate power for decades?

As I have stated before, your vacuous arguments in defense of your liberal positions are hardly convincing...to say the least. Read the liberal socialist democrat party platform.....it walks and quacks like a socialist political duck.

History is history....no amount of shucking, jiving and dodging can change it...unless one is an low information, no information democrat voter....."give me my obama-phone"!

And, I am not against helping the poor and downtrodden, in fact I actually DO IT, and not just talk about it on the Internet and in gubmit meetings! 

Click your heels three times and say there's no place like a liberal socialist utopia. And there is no animal like the unicorn!  :

Tarheel...this is so typical of your posts. Filled with rhetoric and not a single fact. There are conservatives who can express their views well. I may not agree with them but they make valid points. You remind me of the guy who has no argument but just believes that if they scream the loudest they will be deemed the persuasive. Our friends to the north in Canada are more liberal than us but no one is trying to escape. There is a huge difference between communism and liberalism the same as their is a huge difference between fascism and conservatism. 

 

[Twisted]

....but just believes that if they scream the loudest they will be deemed the persuasive.

Hence your constant BOLD print.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Personally, since the SCOTUS' ruling on marriage I will not sign a gubmit marriage license bu perform Biblical Marriage Covenant ceremonies. The government doesn't define marriage as I do, based on Scripture.

And you should not be forced to go against your beliefs in this matter.

It is clear in the NT that the church should provide a safety net for her body. The government historically is filled with waste and corruption, not a single gubmit controlled success story to be found.....USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela......

And how many of those countries are democratic in government? Or are they all dictatorships?

An argument you, Smells and liberal idiocy have no answer for is that no one ever built a cardboard boat to escape capitalism for socialism. 

Yep. We need to get rid of the government helping people. Let's rid the country of the FDA. No need for the government to put any restrictions on our food quality. Food manufacturers should be able to put what they want in their foods and not need any quality control. Kids get sick and die? So be it. Free market at its best. No "gubming" controlling our food supply. Water? No need to test that either. The "gubmint" should just let those poor people in Flint die due to water contamination. It isn't "gubmint" business what people drink. If they can't boil their own water, they are just lazy slobs anyway. Collecting them "gubmint" checks while sitting on their lazy keesters, too lazy to boil their own water for their own health.

And ambulance/fire services? No need for them either. Neighbors should be helping neighbors, so if your house is on fire, they can grab their garden hoses and spray down your house. The well being of citizenry should be with the citizens along and the "gubmint" should use those funds used to protect our citizens should go to develop weapons to bomb the crap out of the Middle East instead.

Nope. Government shouldn't exist for the benefit of its citizenry. It goes against our freedoms to be restricted like this and to have them suck away our hard-earned dollars to help homeless kids and the elderly. We don't owe them anything but to tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Building that raft to take you to Cuba? 

So yes or now. Should the government play any role in the development and maintenance of the health and safety of its citizenry?

Of course they do.
Fire, health and safety are legitimate roles of gubmit.

Now, why don't people ever flee capitalistic countries for communist, socialist countries?

So you are for government responsibility for the well being of its citizens. But I guess it is only on 'your' terms. And if anybody disagrees with you, he is automatically a socialist/communist.

How many of those "socialistic" countries which are being avoided are democratic (little "d") in their structure? Or are they programmed to keep the same personnel in the position of ultimate power for decades?

As I have stated before, your vacuous arguments in defense of your liberal positions are hardly convincing...to say the least. Read the liberal socialist democrat party platform.....it walks and quacks like a socialist political duck.

History is history....no amount of shucking, jiving and dodging can change it...unless one is an low information, no information democrat voter....."give me my obama-phone"!

And, I am not against helping the poor and downtrodden, in fact I actually DO IT, and not just talk about it on the Internet and in gubmit meetings! 

Click your heels three times and say there's no place like a liberal socialist utopia. And there is no animal like the unicorn!  :

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Personally, since the SCOTUS' ruling on marriage I will not sign a gubmit marriage license bu perform Biblical Marriage Covenant ceremonies. The government doesn't define marriage as I do, based on Scripture.

And you should not be forced to go against your beliefs in this matter.

It is clear in the NT that the church should provide a safety net for her body. The government historically is filled with waste and corruption, not a single gubmit controlled success story to be found.....USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela......

And how many of those countries are democratic in government? Or are they all dictatorships?

An argument you, Smells and liberal idiocy have no answer for is that no one ever built a cardboard boat to escape capitalism for socialism. 

Yep. We need to get rid of the government helping people. Let's rid the country of the FDA. No need for the government to put any restrictions on our food quality. Food manufacturers should be able to put what they want in their foods and not need any quality control. Kids get sick and die? So be it. Free market at its best. No "gubming" controlling our food supply. Water? No need to test that either. The "gubmint" should just let those poor people in Flint die due to water contamination. It isn't "gubmint" business what people drink. If they can't boil their own water, they are just lazy slobs anyway. Collecting them "gubmint" checks while sitting on their lazy keesters, too lazy to boil their own water for their own health.

And ambulance/fire services? No need for them either. Neighbors should be helping neighbors, so if your house is on fire, they can grab their garden hoses and spray down your house. The well being of citizenry should be with the citizens along and the "gubmint" should use those funds used to protect our citizens should go to develop weapons to bomb the crap out of the Middle East instead.

Nope. Government shouldn't exist for the benefit of its citizenry. It goes against our freedoms to be restricted like this and to have them suck away our hard-earned dollars to help homeless kids and the elderly. We don't owe them anything but to tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Building that raft to take you to Cuba? 

So yes or now. Should the government play any role in the development and maintenance of the health and safety of its citizenry?

Of course they do.
Fire, health and safety are legitimate roles of gubmit.

Now, why don't people ever flee capitalistic countries for communist, socialist countries?

So you are for government responsibility for the well being of its citizens. But I guess it is only on 'your' terms. And if anybody disagrees with you, he is automatically a socialist/communist.

How many of those "socialistic" countries which are being avoided are democratic (little "d") in their structure? Or are they programmed to keep the same personnel in the position of ultimate power for decades?

As I have stated before, your vacuous arguments in defense of your liberal positions are hardly convincing...to say the least. Read the liberal socialist democrat party platform.....it walks and quacks like a socialist political duck.

History is history....no amount of shucking, jiving and dodging can change it...unless one is an low information, no information democrat voter....."give me my obama-phone"!

And, I am not against helping the poor and downtrodden, in fact I actually DO IT, and not just talk about it on the Internet and in gubmit meetings! 

Click your heels three times and say there's no place like a liberal socialist utopia. And there is no animal like the unicorn!  :

Tarheel...this is so typical of your posts. Filled with rhetoric and not a single fact. There are conservatives who can express their views well. I may not agree with them but they make valid points. You remind me of the guy who has no argument but just believes that if they scream the loudest they will be deemed the persuasive. Our friends to the north in Canada are more liberal than us but no one is trying to escape. There is a huge difference between communism and liberalism the same as their is a huge difference between fascism and conservatism. 

Of course, you and Smellin are right and I am wrong
Progressive liberalism has worked many times down thru the centuries....nobody knows where or when except you, Smellin and the democrat party.

You remind me of a guy who has no substantive argument...Smellin....and therefore you continue to say things that have NO validity.

I once knew a unicorn who ruled over a liberal socialist utopia and a guy who hag a cow with 5 legs. And the cow really did exist!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Personally, since the SCOTUS' ruling on marriage I will not sign a gubmit marriage license bu perform Biblical Marriage Covenant ceremonies. The government doesn't define marriage as I do, based on Scripture.

And you should not be forced to go against your beliefs in this matter.

It is clear in the NT that the church should provide a safety net for her body. The government historically is filled with waste and corruption, not a single gubmit controlled success story to be found.....USSR, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela......

And how many of those countries are democratic in government? Or are they all dictatorships?

An argument you, Smells and liberal idiocy have no answer for is that no one ever built a cardboard boat to escape capitalism for socialism. 

Yep. We need to get rid of the government helping people. Let's rid the country of the FDA. No need for the government to put any restrictions on our food quality. Food manufacturers should be able to put what they want in their foods and not need any quality control. Kids get sick and die? So be it. Free market at its best. No "gubming" controlling our food supply. Water? No need to test that either. The "gubmint" should just let those poor people in Flint die due to water contamination. It isn't "gubmint" business what people drink. If they can't boil their own water, they are just lazy slobs anyway. Collecting them "gubmint" checks while sitting on their lazy keesters, too lazy to boil their own water for their own health.

And ambulance/fire services? No need for them either. Neighbors should be helping neighbors, so if your house is on fire, they can grab their garden hoses and spray down your house. The well being of citizenry should be with the citizens along and the "gubmint" should use those funds used to protect our citizens should go to develop weapons to bomb the crap out of the Middle East instead.

Nope. Government shouldn't exist for the benefit of its citizenry. It goes against our freedoms to be restricted like this and to have them suck away our hard-earned dollars to help homeless kids and the elderly. We don't owe them anything but to tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Thanks for illustrating my point.
Building that raft to take you to Cuba? 

So yes or now. Should the government play any role in the development and maintenance of the health and safety of its citizenry?

Of course they do.
Fire, health and safety are legitimate roles of gubmit.

Now, why don't people ever flee capitalistic countries for communist, socialist countries?

So you are for government responsibility for the well being of its citizens. But I guess it is only on 'your' terms. And if anybody disagrees with you, he is automatically a socialist/communist.

How many of those "socialistic" countries which are being avoided are democratic (little "d") in their structure? Or are they programmed to keep the same personnel in the position of ultimate power for decades?

As I have stated before, your vacuous arguments in defense of your liberal positions are hardly convincing...to say the least. Read the liberal socialist democrat party platform.....it walks and quacks like a socialist political duck.

History is history....no amount of shucking, jiving and dodging can change it...unless one is an low information, no information democrat voter....."give me my obama-phone"!

And, I am not against helping the poor and downtrodden, in fact I actually DO IT, and not just talk about it on the Internet and in gubmit meetings! 

Click your heels three times and say there's no place like a liberal socialist utopia. And there is no animal like the unicorn!  :

That post contains as much substance as your normal post!
Keep clicking your heels, Smellin and you'll get there one day...over the rainbow!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Viva Venezuela!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

 

[LongGone]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

I am proud to be an American and understand why people want to be a part of this great country. People come seeking freedom (including civil rights) and opportunity. I doubt many are coming so thy can be conservatives or Republicans or to vote for Trump. It is interesting that you stand with the group that believes America is going to hell in a hand basket while people risk their lives to get here. I don't think they care about who is peeing in which public bathroom or who is marrying whom

 

[Twisted]

Wow.....I watched those for so long I bought some junk off of QVC and sent Benny Hinn $50......

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

I am proud to be an American and understand why people want to be a part of this great country. People come seeking freedom (including civil rights) and opportunity. I doubt many are coming so thy can be conservatives or Republicans or to vote for Trump. It is interesting that you stand with the group that believes America is going to hell in a hand basket while people risk their lives to get here. I don't think they care about who is peeing in which public bathroom or who is marrying whom

You must have me confused with a socialist liberal democrat Bernie Sanders supporter. 

 

[LongGone]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

I am proud to be an American and understand why people want to be a part of this great country. People come seeking freedom (including civil rights) and opportunity. I doubt many are coming so thy can be conservatives or Republicans or to vote for Trump. It is interesting that you stand with the group that believes America is going to hell in a hand basket while people risk their lives to get here. I don't think they care about who is peeing in which public bathroom or who is marrying whom

You must have me confused with a socialist liberal democrat Bernie Sanders supporter. 

Don't think I have you confused with anyone...you are the one worried that pedophilia will be legal in your lifetime. The conservatives on here were the ones worried that the church was going to have to go underground. You are of the party that has a candidate who thinks he needs to make American Great Again by building a wall and keeping people out of the country based on their religion.

 

[Twisted]

You are of the party that has a candidate who thinks ......keeping people out of the country based on their religion.

You mean like our Founding Fathers did?  Catholics were limited and the ones that were here were controlled.  Why?  Because of their history of killing and persecuting non-Catholics.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

I am proud to be an American and understand why people want to be a part of this great country. People come seeking freedom (including civil rights) and opportunity. I doubt many are coming so thy can be conservatives or Republicans or to vote for Trump. It is interesting that you stand with the group that believes America is going to hell in a hand basket while people risk their lives to get here. I don't think they care about who is peeing in which public bathroom or who is marrying whom

You must have me confused with a socialist liberal democrat Bernie Sanders supporter. 

Don't think I have you confused with anyone...you are the one worried that pedophilia will be legal in your lifetime. The conservatives on here were the ones worried that the church was going to have to go underground. You are of the party that has a candidate who thinks he needs to make American Great Again by building a wall and keeping people out of the country based on their religion.

I do believe pedophilia will be legalized to some extent in this country if progressive liberalism continues to have political influence.

America's greatness is illustrated in the fact that it continues to hold the most coveted citizenship on earth in spite of the prevailing liberal idiocy that has so weakened it.

You, like so many other low/no information voters need a lesson in civics and history...there was NO immigration in this country for over 30 years. Because, back in the day we used common sense. Something modern progressive liberalism lacks!

Again, the proof is in the reality of our situation.
No one builds flotillas of milk jugs to escape capitalism....ever!   

 

[Twisted]

I do believe pedophilia will be legalized to some extent in this country...

Don't forget bigamy. 

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I do believe pedophilia will be legalized to some extent in this country...

Don't forget bigamy.

I was trying to leave your weight out of it. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

That post contains as much substance as your normal post!
Keep clicking your heels, Smellin and you'll get there one day...over the rainbow!

Sometimes the best response to buffoonery is buffoonery.

 

[Twisted]

I do believe pedophilia will be legalized to some extent in this country...

Don't forget bigamy.

I was trying to leave your weight out of it. 

That's very thoughtful.

 

[LongGone]

Maybe those people trying to get to Capitalist America on makeshift rafts and flotillas are simply looking for the "democrat baffroom". 

I am proud to be an American and understand why people want to be a part of this great country. People come seeking freedom (including civil rights) and opportunity. I doubt many are coming so thy can be conservatives or Republicans or to vote for Trump. It is interesting that you stand with the group that believes America is going to hell in a hand basket while people risk their lives to get here. I don't think they care about who is peeing in which public bathroom or who is marrying whom

You must have me confused with a socialist liberal democrat Bernie Sanders supporter. 

Don't think I have you confused with anyone...you are the one worried that pedophilia will be legal in your lifetime. The conservatives on here were the ones worried that the church was going to have to go underground. You are of the party that has a candidate who thinks he needs to make American Great Again by building a wall and keeping people out of the country based on their religion.

I do believe pedophilia will be legalized to some extent in this country if progressive liberalism continues to have political influence.

You say that but I can't figure out what you base it on. Liberals oppose pedophilia.

America's greatness is illustrated in the fact that it continues to hold the most coveted citizenship on earth in spite of the prevailing liberal idiocy that has so weakened it.

We both agree that America is great and people want to get here. We are great because our representative government allows for both sides to be heard and the checks and balances in place keep us from to getting to far to the right or to the left.

You, like so many other low/no information voters need a lesson in civics and history...there was NO immigration in this country for over 30 years. Because, back in the day we used common sense. Something modern progressive liberalism lacks!

What 30 years was there NO immigration? Please use reliable source. Even if you are correct that is far different than banning one religion.  We made mistake back in the day such as slavery or sending Japanese Americans to camps. Every generation makes mistakes. You do make me smile when you tout common sense and Donald Trump is your candidate.

Again, the proof is in the reality of our situation.
No one builds flotillas of milk jugs to escape capitalism....ever!   

Capitalism is part of it but people seek to come to the United States because they seek freedom.

 

[RAIDER]

As the election approaches, what are your thoughts?