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Ekklesian said:
You're trying to appeal to natural rights, meaning that all nations have the same (conditional) right, derived from natural law, to exist. And that certainly isn't the argument in the case of Israel.

Their birth certainly wasn't natural, and their covenant with God was unlike His covenant with any other nation, even though He is the nations' God, too (Romans 3:29).

What happens to the rights derived from a covenant that has been fulfilled, and that is no longer in effect?
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You don't understand the bible.
 
Ekklesian said:
Well yes, Paul for one...many times.

What was the condition needed for even one iota to pass from the law?
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I'll just cut to the chase. Jesus said the law and the prophets must be fulfilled, 'all' must be fulfilled. One doesn't have to have the law and the prophets committed to memory to understand what Jesus said on the subject. Instead of bringing one's ignorance and prejudices concerning the prophecies to Christ's words, we should be taking Christ's words to our study of the prophecies.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. - Matthew 5:18​
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During His ministry, we can see Jesus giving these commands:

The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; - Matthew 23:2-3​
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And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them. - Matthew 8:4​
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But now, Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. ... But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. - Galatians 3:19, 23-25

There is no more Levitical priesthood, because there is no more law that made them priests. For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. - Hebrews 7:12

No one gives the commandments that Jesus gave concerning Moses, because the law is done. It has passed. It is fulfilled. And despite what the unbelievers in Israel are attempting to do, there is no more Temple. There is no more priesthood. There is no more sacrifice. There is nothing to restore, or a land for the unbelievers to return to.
 
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