PappaBear said:
FSSL said:
PappaBear said:
"Why Johnny Can't Read." Obviously (again), FSSL never developed that ability.
Why are you defending a nonTrinitarian who says "Jesus is not a human person"?
Why do you defend a baby-baptizer who burns Baptists?
PB are you referring to King James of England who burned Anabaptist Edward Wightman.
Do you approve of the burning of Edward Wightman by King James?
Do you approve of killing people who differ with you on religious matters?
Murder for religious differences.
PB if you lived during James I reign you would probably be one of those burning at the stake.
I dare say he would be burning a lot of us if we lived back than.
See pages 108 and 109 of Crosby's history of English Baptists. Crosby was a member of the Church where John Gill was pastor.
This is an original source just a few decades removed from the vile deeds of King James I.
http://books.google.com/books?id=7tMsAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_book_other_versions
Here is an email from one of his direct descendents who is a Baptist Mid-Missions missionary in Italy.
Yes I have GARBC roots.
This was distributed by Baptist Mid-Missions in 1998 on the anniversary of Mr. Wightman's murder.
Subj: Saturday, April 11, 1612
Date: 98-04-11 12:04:33 EDT
From: whitmanf@ats.it (Frederick Whitman)
To: info@bmm.org (Baptist Mid-Missions)
Dear E-mail Prayer-warriors,
Today, Saturday April 11 is a very special one in my family history and I want to share it with you. It won't make the front pages of today's newspapers and I know that it is no reason to be proud because as Paul said, "God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty, and the base things of the world, and the things that are despised...to bring to naught things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence." I Corinthians 1:27-29
In 17th century England, there was a tailor by the name of Edward Wightman, of whom I am a direct descendent, who converted from the Anglican Church [Church of England] to faith in Christ and the Anabaptist Movement. The first of March 1611, he was brought before King James I [Head of the Church of England], not for an autographed copy of the original KJV Bible, but to defend his faith as an Anabaptist.
He was then arrested and condemned as a heretic for, among other things, being an Anabaptist. The death sentence was read in the Litchfield Cathedral on the 14th of December. He was condemned to the stake, to be burned alive.
The day of his execution, "Market Square" was full of spectators as Wightman was brought from the prison and chained to the stake. While his religious murderers were gathering burning embers around his feet, the silence of such a solemn moment was pierced by a blood-curdling cry.
The condemned heretic was pleading mercy and pledging to recant, to deny his Anabaptist position, to deny his faith, if only they would get him out of the flames! He had previously stated very eloquently that the baptism of babies was an abominable act and that Baptism and the Lord's Table should not be practiced as done by the Anglican Church. However, in this terrible moment he was ready to deny it all.
The penitent heretic was pulled out of the flames, with those who freed him actually being burned by the flames too, and then led back to the prison. After two weeks Wightman was brought again before the court to sign his denial papers. This time, however, having spent two weeks in the anguished soul-searching of the Apostle Peter, he was ready to stand firm for his faith, refusing to sign the denial. The court secretary wrote that he actually was "more blasphemous and audacious" than before.
Wightman's condemnation was renewed and he was taken again to "Market Square", where he was again chained to the stake. This time there wasn't a hint of wanting to recant. Edward Wightman was burned alive on the Saturday between Good Friday and Easter, April 11, 1612.
The martyr left his widow, Frances, with four children, Priscilla, 15, John, 13, Anna, 3 and Samuel who was 8 months old. The family then moved to London and the next generation left for the American colonies.
Valentine Wightman started the first Baptist church in Connecticut as well as in New York. Valentine's son Timothy followed in his dad's footsteps pastoring churches in Connecticut, organizing the second Baptist Church in that colony. Valentine's grandson John Gano* [see note] pastored in the same state, organizing the Third Baptist Church of Groton.
May God grant each of us the courage to leave an inheritance like this to our children and the children of our children. Have a great Easter as you celebrate our Lord's Resurrection. There is reason to rejoice!
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Yours for Christ in Italy,
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Fred & Rachel Whitman
Jonathan, Jeremy, Joshua & Elizabeth
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Baptist Mid-Missions, Italy
C.P. 34
06132 San Sisto (PG)
Italy
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Ph./Fx. -- (075) 528-9287
E-Mail -- whitmanf@ats.it
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PB you have no room to point a finger at anyone. Pot meet Kettle. See the pic elsewhere on this forum.
Oh, don't forget to take your Prozac.
