Sword of the Lord - Revival Fires

[bgwilkinson]

The other big one was he defined a true church down to only FBCH and he even ranted in one sermon, "I have a church and you don't." Pure folly.

Because you don't explain the context in which something was said people can get the wrong opinion.  I have also heard him say this comment more than once.  It was preceded by preaching against "churches" that do not preach the gospel.  Does not that make it an accurate comment?

Well he had turned the English word Church to mean his very narrow version of a called out assembly. We would call it IFBx to the extreme. Clearly he went too far as we had watched FBCH slide backwards during the late 80s, he tried everything to regain his previous influence. So he was going to out IFBx the IFBxers.

I remember thinking as he went on about it, what about all the called out assemblies of saved baptized people that are within just a few miles of FBCH. I'm thinking of CW Homes who left and took a congregation in North  Hammond, I knew he was winning people to the LORD, but he was persona non grata at FBCH because he spoke out against Bro. Hyles heresy and improper conduct. He was a former deacon, a faithful one at that.

There were then several true called-out assemblies in the Hammond area and he was smearing them by calling them illegitimate churches, not true churches. He was wrong. They were and are true called-out assemblies.

He was trying to regain control of what he called his "preacher boys". (I strongly object to this term)

Instead of regaining lost ground they started fighting. I did not know about all the specifics of the matter.

It would have been so good if we had had facebook and forums back then. They make it much harder for pastors to peddle their bad doctrine without someone calling them out.

Newspapers are just too slow.

 

[labaptist]

I've subscribed to both papers. I think The Sword is better put together than Revival Fires. What others have said about Dennis Corle being long winded is true; My ex wife and I went to hear him preach and didn't get out till about 10pm (and we had to work the next day!) I did enjoy the class I took from his bible college. It certainly wasn't fluff and took alot of work.  As for his divorce, I think he gets a pass on that since he's an evangelist and not a pastor.

 

[qwerty]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor ??? kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

I found both papers to have their positives but nothing mind blowing.  The best part to me was when they would re-publish sermons or articles from years/decades ago.

 

[16KJV11]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

I found both papers to have their positives but nothing mind blowing.  The best part to me was when they would re-publish sermons or articles from years/decades ago.

I remember those days.  I was a young pastor in Iowa who just started a church in Sioux City. I heard about this God save America conference that was going to be held in Burlington. I went looking for encouragement but heard nothing but attacks against other preachers sarcasm and heartburn. I decided I wanted nothing to do with that crowd after that.

 

[SwampHag]

I get the Sword.  My daddy buys us the subscription every year.  I like it.
I don't care for RF.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

When we had our birds the Sword paper fit perfectly in their cage I would pick them up and use it to for my cages. I don't remember ever reading a Sword.

You've been interviewed in today's edition of The HACker Gazette!

 

[Fresh Air]

I made my long acquaintance and deep frustration with both papers publicly evident in my sermon '39 Years an Independent Baptist and Grieved About It'.

IMHO, the best current IFB monthly publication is Paul Chappell's magazine.

 

[RAIDER]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

 

[qwerty]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

 

[RAIDER]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Not sure who that was.  I'm positive about the others.

 

[bgwilkinson]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gomez, arrogant yes, little no.

 

[RAIDER]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gomez, arrogant yes, little no.

Gomez wasn't against Corle.  He was quite the opposite.

 

[16KJV11]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gary Biggs?

 

[Walt]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

I subscribed to the SOTL for a long time; never subscribed to Revival Fires.

I finally canceled my subscription to SOTL when they supported video voyeur Greg Neal.

 

[16KJV11]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

I subscribed to the SOTL for a long time; never subscribed to Revival Fires.

I finally canceled my subscription to SOTL when they supported video voyeur Greg Neal.

I don't blame you.  That is sickening. 

 

[Ex-Fundy]

The kids at our church regularly go to a teen talent contest sponsored by some church out east, and not only do they compete in singing groups and on instrumental solos, but there is also a preaching competition. A preaching competition? I don't see how this is viewed as a good thing...

Brain,

I was just laughing about this recently with someone else who is a former-FBCer. What the heck is a "regional teen talent contest"? Odd! Just another reason that these fundy societies are very much unknown irrelevant subcultures.

 

[Ex-Fundy]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor ??? kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

I found both papers to have their positives but nothing mind blowing.  The best part to me was when they would re-publish sermons or articles from years/decades ago.

I personally have a hard time telling which paper I liked more, The SOTL or RF...for lining my birdcage.

 

[Bruh]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gomez, arrogant yes, little no.

Gomez wasn't against Corle.  He was quite the opposite.

Gomez's wife was a virgin when they got married. 

 

[bgwilkinson]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gomez, arrogant yes, little no.

Gomez wasn't against Corle.  He was quite the opposite.

Gomez's wife was a virgin when they got married.

How would you know something so intimately private as that, hummmm?

Or is this sarcasm?

 

[Bruh]

The repentance "battle" was so tiring. Bro. Hyles did his best to try to mediate by hosting conferences.  If I recall correctly, Corle/Revival Fires was pretty passive about the whole situation, while Gomez/Taylor were charging hell with a squirt-gun.  I remember one time during a conference, Randy Taylor kept referring to Revival Fires as Revival Smoke....figured it was just his napoleon complex kicking in until I had the opportunity to talk with him and determined he was just a jerk in general.

If I remember correctly Corle/Gomez/Taylor were in agreement.  Bob Gray was on the other side.  I remember hearing Gray call them "Batman, Robin, and their side kick".  Taylor ran with Corle and Gomez.

Who was the little arrogant preacher guy then that was hot against Corle? Could have sworn it was Taylor, but I think you are right (not positive about Gomez though).

Gomez, arrogant yes, little no.

Gomez wasn't against Corle.  He was quite the opposite.

Gomez's wife was a virgin when they got married.

How would you know something so intimately private as that, hummmm?

Or is this sarcasm?

Because he said it in one of his sermons. 

He thought it was important enough to say in a sermon sooooo, I just try and spread this news every single time his name is brought up.