Sword of the Lord - Revival Fires

[RAIDER]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

 

[Tennessean]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

I receive SOTL. I have had both Bro. Smith and Bro. Corle preach for me. About 11 years ago RF had about half the subscriptions of SOTL.

 

[RAIDER]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

I receive SOTL. I have had both Bro. Smith and Bro. Corle preach for me. About 11 years ago RF had about half the subscriptions of SOTL.

If Brother Corle preached for you he would still be preaching. 

 

[fishinnut]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

RF...........never have supported that nutcase ministry. His book on separation is more like a treatise on legalism & wrote a letter to tell him, he never responded.

Sword......not for years. I recently found the 1st check written for a subscription to the Sword in the early 70's. It was for $1.00.

 

[IFB X-Files]

... recently found the 1st check written for a subscription to the Sword in the early 70's. It was for $1.00.

And that was when the Sword was a weekly!

 

[BALAAM]

I haven't heard anything about RF or Corle for years. Don't know who he preaches for or anything. Believe it or not reading the RF paper was a lot more interesting than listening to Dennis C preach. He was one of the driest and longest speakers I can remember.

 

[RAIDER]

My family had a subscription to the Sword for as long as I can remember.  Actually, the HAC ad in the Sword was the beginning of our interest in HAC.  When I married, my wife and I also subscribed.  I would read parts of it and look over the rest.

After Smith took over I think the Sword lost its edge (how's that for a play on words ).  I continued to receive it for a period of time and then let it expire.

When I first read a Revival Fires I thought it was a much more interesting read.  I enjoyed the articles as well as the advertisements.  I believe that Revival Fires was designed more for the IFB stripe that I was use to.

I remember the "repentance battle" between Corle/Gomez/Taylor and Bob Gray.  The Revival Fires was one of the tools used.

I have heard Brother Corle preach on several occasions.  While I don't have any personal problems or issues with him, I have been less than impressed.  His disregard for time is an immediate turn off.

As the years have passed I have found Revival Fires less and less interesting.  I'm sure some of it has to do with my lack of love for Brother Corle's preaching.  A few years ago I let my subscription expire. 

 

[bgwilkinson]

My family had a subscription to the Sword for as long as I can remember.  Actually, the HAC ad in the Sword was the beginning of our interest in HAC.  When I married, my wife and I also subscribed.  I would read parts of it and look over the rest.

After Smith took over I think the Sword lost its edge (how's that for a play on words ).  I continued to receive it for a period of time and then let it expire.

When I first read a Revival Fires I thought it was a much more interesting read.  I enjoyed the articles as well as the advertisements.  I believe that Revival Fires was designed more for the IFB stripe that I was use to.

I remember the "repentance battle" between Corle/Gomez/Taylor and Bob Gray.  The Revival Fires was one of the tools used.

I have heard Brother Corle preach on several occasions.  While I don't have any personal problems or issues with him, I have been less than impressed.  His disregard for time is an immediate turn off.

As the years have passed I have found Revival Fires less and less interesting.  I'm sure some of it has to do with my lack of love for Brother Corle's preaching.  A few years ago I let my subscription expire.

Don't recall the repentance wars, it must have been a tempest in a teapot.

 

[Sherryh]

When we had our birds the Sword paper fit perfectly in their cage I would pick them up and use it to for my cages. I don't remember ever reading a Sword.

 

[Tennessean]

For many years the Sword of the Lord was the paper of choice for the IFB movement.  It was extremely popular during Dr. Rice's and Dr. Hutson's time.  After Sheldon Smith took over it seems that the Revival Fires became the "top dog".  I realize that technology has probably hurt both publications.

Here is the question - did you ever subscribe to the Sword of the Lord and/or Revival Fires?  Do you still subscribe?  Why?

I receive SOTL. I have had both Bro. Smith and Bro. Corle preach for me. About 11 years ago RF had about half the subscriptions of SOTL.

Right now Bro. Corle is finishing his last point and we should be starting the invitation on Friday.

Seriously. When Bro. Corle came to preach for me I appreciated him greatly. Our church didn't have much money but he preached 2 days and preached like he would in a great conference. iow he preached with everything he had.

 

[IFB X-Files]

So Corle's divorce/remarriage is no issue?

 

[bgwilkinson]

It isn't if we ignore him.

 

[Bruh]

So Corle's divorce/remarriage is no issue?

I thought it was his wife that was divorced?

Also, why should it matter? She wears dresses now. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Seriously. When Bro. Corle came to preach for me I appreciated him greatly. Our church didn't have much money but he preached 2 days and preached like he would in a great conference. iow he preached with everything he had.

This isn't about Corle or your church or anything of that, but this part of your post is very telling. The idea that any preacher would preach "with everything he had" kinda shows how much performance we have made preaching. We expect a certain level of something, whether it be charisma, humor, doctrine, presentation, whatever that we miss the goal of building up one another. Certainly God can use that kind of preaching just as He can use a donkey to proclaim His message but it speaks more about our Americanized expectations in making preaching into a performance.

 

[brainisengaged]

The kids at our church regularly go to a teen talent contest sponsored by some church out east, and not only do they compete in singing groups and on instrumental solos, but there is also a preaching competition. A preaching competition? I don't see how this is viewed as a good thing...

 

[RAIDER]

My family had a subscription to the Sword for as long as I can remember.  Actually, the HAC ad in the Sword was the beginning of our interest in HAC.  When I married, my wife and I also subscribed.  I would read parts of it and look over the rest.

After Smith took over I think the Sword lost its edge (how's that for a play on words ).  I continued to receive it for a period of time and then let it expire.

When I first read a Revival Fires I thought it was a much more interesting read.  I enjoyed the articles as well as the advertisements.  I believe that Revival Fires was designed more for the IFB stripe that I was use to.

I remember the "repentance battle" between Corle/Gomez/Taylor and Bob Gray.  The Revival Fires was one of the tools used.

I have heard Brother Corle preach on several occasions.  While I don't have any personal problems or issues with him, I have been less than impressed.  His disregard for time is an immediate turn off.

As the years have passed I have found Revival Fires less and less interesting.  I'm sure some of it has to do with my lack of love for Brother Corle's preaching.  A few years ago I let my subscription expire.

Don't recall the repentance wars, it must have been a tempest in a teapot.

I believe it was in the '90s.  Corle/Gomez/Taylor decided to take a stronger stand on repentance.  They started preaching about it more in their conferences.  Gray was on the other side of the coin.  All of them started taking jabs at each other.  I remember Dr. Hyles standing up in a Pastor's School and saying that he didn't want his boys fighting.

 

[Tennessean]

Seriously. When Bro. Corle came to preach for me I appreciated him greatly. Our church didn't have much money but he preached 2 days and preached like he would in a great conference. iow he preached with everything he had.

This isn't about Corle or your church or anything of that, but this part of your post is very telling. The idea that any preacher would preach "with everything he had" kinda shows how much performance we have made preaching. We expect a certain level of something, whether it be charisma, humor, doctrine, presentation, whatever that we miss the goal of building up one another. Certainly God can use that kind of preaching just as He can use a donkey to proclaim His message but it speaks more about our Americanized expectations in making preaching into a performance.

I think you misunderstand. When Bro. Corle preached for me he preached the Word. Both sermons were doctrinally sound, edifying and uplifting. There was the call for sinners to repent, saints to rededicate and all to live according to God's word. Did both sermons go a bit longer than we were normally used to? Perhaps but the phrase, give it all he had, meant that he preached the Word of God and did not give a half-hearted sermon because he was in a little church that could not give him a big offering.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Seriously. When Bro. Corle came to preach for me I appreciated him greatly. Our church didn't have much money but he preached 2 days and preached like he would in a great conference. iow he preached with everything he had.

This isn't about Corle or your church or anything of that, but this part of your post is very telling. The idea that any preacher would preach "with everything he had" kinda shows how much performance we have made preaching. We expect a certain level of something, whether it be charisma, humor, doctrine, presentation, whatever that we miss the goal of building up one another. Certainly God can use that kind of preaching just as He can use a donkey to proclaim His message but it speaks more about our Americanized expectations in making preaching into a performance.

I think you misunderstand. When Bro. Corle preached for me he preached the Word. Both sermons were doctrinally sound, edifying and uplifting. There was the call for sinners to repent, saints to rededicate and all to live according to God's word. Did both sermons go a bit longer than we were normally used to? Perhaps but the phrase, give it all he had, meant that he preached the Word of God and did not give a half-hearted sermon because he was in a little church that could not give him a big offering.

My comment wasn't about him. I never heard the man. My comment was about how we view preaching in general with specific expectations in not only content, but delivery.

 

[bgwilkinson]

My family had a subscription to the Sword for as long as I can remember.  Actually, the HAC ad in the Sword was the beginning of our interest in HAC.  When I married, my wife and I also subscribed.  I would read parts of it and look over the rest.

After Smith took over I think the Sword lost its edge (how's that for a play on words ).  I continued to receive it for a period of time and then let it expire.

When I first read a Revival Fires I thought it was a much more interesting read.  I enjoyed the articles as well as the advertisements.  I believe that Revival Fires was designed more for the IFB stripe that I was use to.

I remember the "repentance battle" between Corle/Gomez/Taylor and Bob Gray.  The Revival Fires was one of the tools used.

I have heard Brother Corle preach on several occasions.  While I don't have any personal problems or issues with him, I have been less than impressed.  His disregard for time is an immediate turn off.

As the years have passed I have found Revival Fires less and less interesting.  I'm sure some of it has to do with my lack of love for Brother Corle's preaching.  A few years ago I let my subscription expire.

Don't recall the repentance wars, it must have been a tempest in a teapot.

I believe it was in the '90s.  Corle/Gomez/Taylor decided to take a stronger stand on repentance.  They started preaching about it more in their conferences.  Gray was on the other side of the coin.  All of them started taking jabs at each other.  I remember Dr. Hyles standing up in a Pastor's School and saying that he didn't want his boys fighting.

Ah yes, there was quite a lot of one-ups-man-ship going on in the 90s. Bro Hyles was doing everything he could think of to regain the lost momentum we had in the 80s. (We never did get it back, and it was all downhill from there)

He came up with some outrageous stuff like KJVO coupled with the pure seed doctrine, just wacky.

That got the home boys fired up, but did not give us any kind of boost.

He also tried the magic blood doctrine, some have called it the Indiana Jones holy grail doctrine, all Catholics rejoice at it for it promotes the real physical presence of Christ at Holy Eucharist, Jesus body and blood present at the Mass, Lord's Supper.

The other big one was he defined a true church down to only FBCH and he even ranted in one sermon, "I have a church and you don't." Pure folly.

Well of course that didn't work either. Nothing he tried worked. He never did get his mojo back.

 

[RAIDER]

The other big one was he defined a true church down to only FBCH and he even ranted in one sermon, "I have a church and you don't." Pure folly.

Because you don't explain the context in which something was said people can get the wrong opinion.  I have also heard him say this comment more than once.  It was preceded by preaching against "churches" that do not preach the gospel.  Does not that make it an accurate comment?