I’ll try to get something with a little more substance later, but one common practice in those circles is when the leadership overlooks sins if the one sinning is a soul winner. The inherent/implied premise Is that we can earn favor with God after being born again by works of righteousness.
Yes, I’ve come across a couple of non Baptist churches with AWANA, but usually they are almost exclusively Baptist, at least in areas I’ve lived.
Some Calvary Chapels have AWANA clubs.
i looked up royal rangers and the first thing that came up was a baseball game...
.. but further down the real organization came up.... .it looks a good program... started in 1962 and still going on..... .i also looked up royal ambassadors and they are still going strong too..... all southern baptists it would appear...... and they also have a girls side of it called girls in action..... they even have their own patches.... . pretty interesting...... 
This certainly is good news! I believe there needs to be open and public repentance rather than just "White-Washing" over things and pretending it never happened! I don't mind KJVO so long as it is not focused upon conspiracy or used as a test of orthodoxy or spirituality. I remain pretty much KJV-Preferred myself.
I knew about AWANA but was in IFB for 20 years and never saw one with an AWANA program. The first Church I attended after leaving IFB had AWANA and my kids enjoyed being a part of it.
These these things aren't exclusive to IFB, btw.
Excuse me for interrupting; I know your question is directed at ALAYMAN and I'm confident he'll supply a clear answer with his characteristic grace. However, your question is one that many professed believers ask; it is one that I asked, though not outwardly for much of my life as a believer.
Bottom line, the NEW BIRTH is a radical transformation from the inside out whereby one goes from naturally shunning the things of God to naturally DESIRING the things of God! All of the external "Dos and Don'ts" is a very cheap imitation of this reality and very much is putting lipstick on a pig and placing it in a whitened tomb!
i was never even a baptist... much less an ifb... but i did carry a bible with me when i was in school... from junior high all the way through college.... ..it was a small.. but complete... king james with both old and new testaments... ..i kept it in a side pocket on my backpack most of the time but pulled it out frequently to reference things for classmates who had questions and also a few times to counter what a teacher or professor was saying.....
That’s understandable. I was referring to kids being encouraged to carry the Bible in their hand as some type of spiritual sword to fend off lurking evil.
i never heard if it put like that before....
.... i guess mine would have been like a concealed carry weapon then rather than a sword worn on the hip...
...it did make me feel better to have it with me though.... and that;s why i started carrying it in the same pack as my other school books..... then later i found it seemed easier to disregard the lies and myths being taught in school.. or at least keep the false theories being pushed in their proper place... if i had the truth within reach... ....it;s not easy to pass tests with essay type questions in science and medical biology classes, if you don;t believe the nonsense they are trying to teach..espcailly when those questions involve evolutionary theory... but it is possible ... and even with some of the more hostile instructors - as long as you know how to word the things you need to say... I guess what I’m trying to say is that they were encouraged to carry the Bible in public schools like it was part of a uniform. Carrying it in a backpack like you in order to share the Gospel is fantastic, but when it’s just to carry it as a showpiece, that I always thought was a bit strange. In gun terms, it’s the difference between a concealed weapon (hidden) and open carry (these guys wearing firearms like necklaces). I have a concealed permit, but I have no desire to flaunt a gun from my hip like I’m in the cast of Gunsmoke. (Hmmm…I feel like we just turned this into a new topic ripe for discussion on the FFF).i never heard if it put like that before....
they can;t fail you for your beliefs... or at least they couldn;t back then... but only on whether you know the subject material being taught or not.... and it;s a lot easier if you know both the bible and the subject material and know how to sort them out... ..their goal is to get into your head.. but i had more than one teacher tell me they thought i had gotten into theirs.... and one even started going to church with me... .
so it was just to be seen with a bible?....like a showpiece...I guess what I’m trying to say is that they were encouraged to carry the Bible in public schools like it was part of a uniform. Carrying it in a backpack like you in order to share the Gospel is fantastic, but when it’s just to carry it as a showpiece, that I always thought was a bit strange. In gun terms, it’s the difference between a concealed weapon (hidden) and open carry (these guys wearing firearms like necklaces). I have a concealed permit, but I have no desire to flaunt a gun from my hip like I’m in the cast of Gunsmoke. (Hmmm…I feel like we just turned this into a new topic ripe for discussion on the FFF).
.... i was wondering if that;s what you meant, but didn;t want to be the one to suggest it - and lend credence to the well worn cliche that young people in the fundamental baptist world were being taught appearances were more important than practice... ...... ..but from what you and others said in this thread ..and even about different situations, it sounds like it;s inescapable.... Fire away (no pun intended)
