Russell Anderson Demands His Name Be Removed From Hyles-Anderson College

I have several huge problems with this letter:

I can't believe that Ray Young would ever have much of a doctrinal problem over the kjv or too many other doctrinal issues with folks. That just doesn't seem to be him.

I thought that Dr. Evans was the president of the college and he was president even when Hyles died. Was Ray appointed by Hyles before he died?

I am so sick of these boneheads bringing up the story of Reheboam and drawing the conclusion that because I am older and you don't take my instructions then that is what you are. I am in construction trades and have been all of my life. If one of you who is younger than I happened to call me and ask my advice for a particular problem and you choose not to take my advice I would not hold it against you. Believe it or not, I still don't know everything and am not always right! Even within my own trade.
 
And since I started replying to this stuff I might as well go ahead and say this also.

The kjb stuff is making me sick. I, many years ago, came down strongly on the side of most of the kjv crowd for reasons I won't get into. Now they remind me of the apostle Paul in Ephesus when he was brought before the people and everyone was yelling "Great is Diana of the Ephesians". It was chaos and it kind of reminds me of the way these folks have gotten. It is almost cult-like. I really don't want to be associated with that crowd.
 
It kind of seems to me that old Rusty tipped his hand a few years ago when he gave $50,000.00 for Jeff Owens to start a Bible college and then after Owens left he sued the church to get the money back. I don't know all the details and reasoning but to me, that is kind of bizarre.
 
sword said:
bgwilkinson said:
Hard to believe anyone would listen to him any more.

I have long thought it would be a plus to get Bro. Hyles name off the college, but getting Anderson's name off would be a good thing too. It would seem it is time to move on from Bro. Hyles failed legacy and all the baggage we are still carrying, it is getting very heavy.

This is one of the things that is holding the college back from any growth.

Just Google Jack Hyles and no student in his right mind would come to Hammond after reading all the sordid history.
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The only problem with this theory is most of the students currently enrolled at Hyles Anderson came from churches with very strong Jack Hyles & HAC ties. If you move away from that legacy and what the college was and who the founder was where will they get students.

Many past & current students were encouraged to go to HAC by their pastors. Most of these pastors are HAC grads or at least devoted Pastor school pastors. If they don't restore faith with those churches and the younger pastors who are taking over they will die like TT and all the others. Like it or not its their only hope.

Most of the churches Wilkerson would draw students from already send their kids to Golden State or West coast.
If they move to the left they will be competing with PCC and Bob Jones & Crown which are generally overall better schools.

All they have is their roots of training hard working christian workers to staff growing churches and young men to start soul winning ministries. If they hope to survive they must once again recruit these kind of young people.
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If they move to the left? How are they moving to the left?
 
Gonna jump in on this one....sooooo....here we go:

There are a few things you must understand about Russell Anderson.

He grew up a rebel hillbilly in a holler of eastern KY.  He moved to Michigan where he shrewdly grew powerful in the construction industry and low end apartment management.  He began to purchase properties and make investments that made him a ton of money.  He has had a good goal of giving away his money for the ministry.  He has a desire to see churches started, people trained in his belief system and the Gospel to go around the world.  I know that he has given over $35 million to the work of the ministry.

However, he does not give this money freely.  There are strings attached.  If you accept his money, he wants reports on how you used it and how many people you had saved, baptized and in church.  He also expects to be able to visit your church and speak at any time on any topic.  Over the past couple decades, he has frequently gotten upset with a church and chosen to move his membership and through which church he gives his money.  He personally supports many missionaries, but will send that money to a church, designated to a particular missionary.  He gets the tax write off, the church gets to boast its missions support and he gets letters proclaiming how many souls were won for each dollar he gave.  Russell Anderson expects much from the recipients of his contributions.  You can debate if that is wise or not.

In the past decade, Russell Anderson attempted to be an evangelist.  Their was a huge problem with this concept.  He does not have the gift of evangelism.  He really only had one sermon and it was probably heresy.  "This happened in my life.  If you do what I did, you will be rich enough to do the same thing.  If you don't get rich, it is because you are sinful."  In every church, he boasted of his money and boasted of how much money he gave away and how many souls are going to be in heaven because of him.  It came across to people as the random ranting of a pride filled man who was very condescending to others to whom God did not give the gift of giving.  Churches quit having him, he got his feeling hurt and got angry.  He took his money and went somewhere else.  Russell Anderson may have had good intentions.  He has become a bit of a bully expecting people to give him obeisance because of his money. 

This letter if full of pride.  It wreaks pride.  It drips pride.  It is a threat and it is speaking evil of someone who has an incredibly difficult job (not losing a church after Jack Schaap sank the ship).  His self-righteousness is disgusting (note the ps).  I would think that ol Cotton should watch out for the She-Bears after speaking against the man of God (if he wants to randomly pull out Scripture and use it however he wants).  I was particularly disgusted by the addendum where Russ decided who has done what for God and in what measure and how many rewards who would receive in heaven.  Unless I am mistaken, that is determined by God alone.  Russ apparently believes himself to be in God's position.  He is attempting to sit in the seat of God.  This is highly dangerous.

His letter also shows a total lack of understanding about how the whole Bible-college scheme works.  Jack Schaap was raping a teen girl and went to prison.  Duh.  People don't go to a Bible college where the President stands by and amens wild heresy and rape.  Duh.
 
If it were me, I would happily accommodate him.  I would thank him for the permission to no longer be associated with his pride.
 
Binaca Chugger said:
Gonna jump in on this one....sooooo....here we go:

There are a few things you must understand about Russell Anderson.

He grew up a rebel hillbilly in a holler of eastern KY.  He moved to Michigan where he shrewdly grew powerful in the construction industry and low end apartment management.  He began to purchase properties and make investments that made him a ton of money.  He has had a good goal of giving away his money for the ministry.  He has a desire to see churches started, people trained in his belief system and the Gospel to go around the world.  I know that he has given over $35 million to the work of the ministry.

However, he does not give this money freely.  There are strings attached.  If you accept his money, he wants reports on how you used it and how many people you had saved, baptized and in church.  He also expects to be able to visit your church and speak at any time on any topic.  Over the past couple decades, he has frequently gotten upset with a church and chosen to move his membership and through which church he gives his money.  He personally supports many missionaries, but will send that money to a church, designated to a particular missionary.  He gets the tax write off, the church gets to boast its missions support and he gets letters proclaiming how many souls were won for each dollar he gave.  Russell Anderson expects much from the recipients of his contributions.  You can debate if that is wise or not.

In the past decade, Russell Anderson attempted to be an evangelist.  Their was a huge problem with this concept.  He does not have the gift of evangelism.  He really only had one sermon and it was probably heresy.  "This happened in my life.  If you do what I did, you will be rich enough to do the same thing.  If you don't get rich, it is because you are sinful."  In every church, he boasted of his money and boasted of how much money he gave away and how many souls are going to be in heaven because of him.  It came across to people as the random ranting of a pride filled man who was very condescending to others to whom God did not give the gift of giving.  Churches quit having him, he got his feeling hurt and got angry.  He took his money and went somewhere else.  Russell Anderson may have had good intentions.  He has become a bit of a bully expecting people to give him obeisance because of his money. 

This letter if full of pride.  It wreaks pride.  It drips pride.  It is a threat and it is speaking evil of someone who has an incredibly difficult job (not losing a church after Jack Schaap sank the ship).  His self-righteousness is disgusting (note the ps).  I would think that ol Cotton should watch out for the She-Bears after speaking against the man of God (if he wants to randomly pull out Scripture and use it however he wants).  I was particularly disgusted by the addendum where Russ decided who has done what for God and in what measure and how many rewards who would receive in heaven.  Unless I am mistaken, that is determined by God alone.  Russ apparently believes himself to be in God's position.  He is attempting to sit in the seat of God.  This is highly dangerous.

His letter also shows a total lack of understanding about how the whole Bible-college scheme works.  Jack Schaap was raping a teen girl and went to prison.  Duh.  People don't go to a Bible college where the President stands by and amens wild heresy and rape.  Duh.
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The renaming can not come soon enough in my opinion.

It may be the name as much as any other factor that has caused the decrease in enrollment and the resistance that new students have in taking a chance on a college that may bite them in the future.

We need a clean break from the Hyles and Anderson name, it is pure poison.
 
bgwilkinson said:
Is this some kind of a sick joke? What say you?

I reserve any more comment until this is authenticated. There is much to it the makes it seem inauthentic.
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Anybody else find it interesting that...

"R Anderson" posted this... and this is his only post?
He never asked for Jacks Schaap to remove his name from the college, even when he wrote letters about it?
Pastor John Wilkerson has "cleaned house" and rid the college / church of many of those who believed like JS did?
Pastor John Wilkerson seems to have the blessing of Bob Gray and the IFB's....

Now , this could be authentic, but I give it pause....
 
Jack Schaap made Dr. Young the college president after Dr. Hyles Died.  It was shortly after Jeff Owens resigned from the VP position.

I was also there :)
 
We have been down this road before too....

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/hyles-anderson-college/is-russell-anderson-suing-hac-to-get-his-name-off-the-college/
 
qwerty said:
Should have taken it off the college long ago...

After reading that letter, they should remove his name. Putting Young back as President would surely seal the college's fate. Anderson is delusional or senile if he thinks that the removal of Ray was the reason for the fall in enrollment.  Personally, keeping Young on the staff makes as much sense as keeping Lapina on. Both in leadership positions did nothing while Schaap led the congregation and students to the doorstep of hell other than shout "amen" and "that's right".

At least Wilkerson is putting the place in the right direction and promoting God above man. Putting someone in as president who lacks any marketable skills and who is only in any position because he followed men so loyally and passionately they felt he should be rewarded (obedience training) is asinine.
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Over on the thread "what you would do if you were appointed President?", I was thinking that I'd ask to have the college name changed, but figured that wouldn't happen.  Lo and behold, this happens.

I so much like this comment about R Young and E Lapina.

I have no idea if it is real of fake, but he is wrong if he thinks the KJV is "inspired"; he didn't define the term, but the usual usage means "given directly from God".

I don't know if his financial estimate is correct or not... I have no comment on that.
 
I am grateful for the generosity he exhibited which helped immensely to provide the place of my ministerial education. I cannot bring myself to speak ill of a man who is up in years as he is.

I wish him the best.
 
cpizzle said:
Jack Schaap made Dr. Young the college president after Dr. Hyles Died.  It was shortly after Jeff Owens resigned from the VP position.

I was also there :)
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That is what I thought. Now, another question: If this were true and Russell Anderson really wanted his name removed, would it be anywhere near reasonable to expect it to be done in 90 days? There are too many questions about this letter to take it too seriously.
 
So Russell Anderson does not want any West Coast boys at the college? John Wilkerson would be more of the Paul Chappell crowd.
 
qwerty said:
Should have taken it off the college long ago...

After reading that letter, they should remove his name. Putting Young back as President would surely seal the college's fate. Anderson is delusional or senile if he thinks that the removal of Ray was the reason for the fall in enrollment.  Personally, keeping Young on the staff makes as much sense as keeping Lapina on. Both in leadership positions did nothing while Schaap led the congregation and students to the doorstep of hell other than shout "amen" and "that's right".

At least Wilkerson is putting the place in the right direction and promoting God above man. Putting someone in as president who lacks any marketable skills and who is only in any position because he followed men so loyally and passionately they felt he should be rewarded (obedience training) is asinine.

That money figure is ridiculous as well. The man is not in his right mind.
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I love that a man who is functionally illiterate can be considered a college president.
What a country!

Earnestly Contend

 
HAC needs to change its name, for a variety of reasons.
The new one should reflect its mission, or its location, IMO, which is what this thread asked for.  ;)

Earnestly Contend
 
bgwilkinson said:
Is this some kind of a sick joke? What say you?

I reserve any more comment until this is authenticated. There is much to it the makes it seem inauthentic.
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I just got off the phone with Dr. Anderson a few moments....and yes, the letter is legit.  He did write and send this letter.  IT IS NOT A JOKE!
 
So what's with the 90 days? Will he take some legal action?
 
ScottRoberts said:
bgwilkinson said:
Is this some kind of a sick joke? What say you?

I reserve any more comment until this is authenticated. There is much to it the makes it seem inauthentic.
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I just got off the phone with Dr. Anderson a few moments....and yes, the letter is legit.  He did write and send this letter.  IT IS NOT A JOKE!
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I just got off the phone with Dr. Anderson! He told me to tell you that you're all WRONG!

He wants the Hyles name removed from the college name!  :)
 
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