I actually never mentioned you or your family, but I can’t help if the shoe fits and you don’t like it.
President Jimmy Carter - RIP
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When someone states that they are against abortion or have qualms about supporting it, and they are in a position to try and help change and prevent the practice but doesn't, and stays in that party as it's leader, they support abortion. You can avoid discussion, but the facts are there in the video. You're always entitled to your beliefs on the party, however incorrect they may be, but the proof is in the pudding.
OK, let’s step back and analyze this situation. Up until just a couple of years ago when the Supreme Court overturned abortion rights, Roe v Wade had been the law for decades. As president, Carter signed the Hyde Amendment in 1977 in an effort to restrict abortion and ban federal funding for it, an amendment named after a Republican who wrote the bill. Regardless of whether our presidents have been Republican or Democrat, until the Supreme Court was restocked, every president hasn’t been able to do anything more than Carter did. Oh, and Carter didn’t have the opportunity to elect a Supreme Court justice.
Carter hasn’t been the leader of the Democratic Party since January 1981. He’s been nothing more than an ex-president, and as such, the most he could do is what he did in that video, which is to say he wasn’t on board with abortion, and couldn’t ever religiously reconcile with it.
Up until some of Trump’s SC justice picks, where does this leave the court appointees that other presidents (including Republicans) picked? It’s true that Carter could have been more vocal about the issue as a former president, but then you’d have to hold these other presidents to the same standard. And by the way, some of you on this very forum are on record as saying you voted for Clinton and even Obama, so where does this leave you? Certainly in Obama’s time, the Democrats were fully entrenched in the pro-choice camp.
Well, up until Trump’s recent SC picks, the justices appointed by Republicans didn’t do any better. I’m not hearing outrage over that though, for some reason.
I’m not losing sleep over what you think my testosterone level is. I’m a good 15 or twenty years younger than you, so I’m guessing Mother Nature is on my side with that one. However, to ridicule a man for being faithful to one woman for decades because “what woman could be attracted to him” is filth. And even if none of the other Christians on this forum will call you out for it, you can bet your buttons I will.
He does not seem to be unattractive as you claim. Any man at 100 is likely to have lost some of his youthful looks.
Can you two try to get along.
I understand it's the fighting fourm, but can we try to fight over the issues not each other.
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You gotta board this train at the station, Dad. This was said because he was a weak man and President, not because of his looks.
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He started it.
Put Dubbya on a pedestal, and you would. Remember Terri Schiavo?
Yes, but I don’t know your point.
1st, the Hyde Amendment was not a stand-alone bill. It was an amendment to a welfare funding bill. Carter had less interest in the amendment than he would have in a piece of peanut skin in a jar of Jiff.
His concern was the amount of spending, and he first threatened a veto of the bill, but reached a compromise with Democratic leaders, and then signed into law a $61.3 billion appropriations bill for the Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare.
He was not signing 'the Hyde Amendment.'
Abortion wasn't even on his radar. Not even close. And apparently the Democratic leadership wasn't going to make an issue of the amendment either, in order to garner Republican support for their spending.
So spinning this as an effort on the part of Carter to restrict abortion is just...well...hogwash.
2nd, the Hyde Amendment didn't restrict abortion, and had little to no effect on the abortion rate. It simply restricted federal monies from being used for the procedure, except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother as at risk. Basically those on welfare, including Medicare/caid couldn't spend their benefits on this elective procedure.
Militant Feminists certainly howled about that, as expected, saying it was unfair that the poor had to spend their own cash to kill their kids. That's the only reason it got any notice at all. But practically no private insurance, or employer provided insurance was covering the procedure either.
So as far as any real restriction on abortion, the Hyde Amendment is just as weak as Carter.
I need you to purchase and read this book before we can further discuss the topic. Let’s get away from nonsense on the internet written by anonymous hacks, and stick with the President’s own written words.
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i didn;t see his comment until your post above referred to it.... i haven;t been looking at the forum much lately and only check in to read posts of a few posters i consider friends...... which is why i read your post - and you are absolutely right.... his comment...like a great many of his comments on this forum..... was absolute filth...... i have called him out on posts like that many times, but stopped paying attention to what he posted weeks ago. ... ... .... . i like to give other forum members the benefit of the doubt and believe they also did not see his comments because they ..like me... also no longer pay attention to anything he says... ..we see his name on the post and just brush right past it like it;s not even there..... ..he;s simply not worth the time or the trouble....
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there are only 2 ways to get along with a slime ball like ekklesian.. .. either totally ignore what he says or be in agreement with the filth he posts.. .. i like to give you guys the benefit of the doubt and assume you manage it by ignoring his filth.... so why can you not also ignore the fights that take place when someone else calls him out on it?..... .Uh, yeah. Can't we all just get along?
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i like that style. .... i have a pink deer hunting hat that uses the same concept and turns images
of deer into camoflage... . .. i don;t wear it often coz i;m just not into wearing hats..... at least not
of that type... . my archery range hat is a full brimmed sun hat made of straw... .. and the one i
wear in the jungle/rainforest for hunting is a booney style camo hat... ..but i do wear a baseball
style hat under the hood of my ghilly suit... keeps the rain out of my eyes...it;s traditional
military green and brown camo... .
but this is the hat i was talking about... .. pretty awesome... but i know not many men would
ever wear it... and i would be a little suspicious of them if they did.....
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I agree. Probably best to ignore. I just thought his comment was ridiculous. Carter was a military veteran, governor and U.S. president. I have no issue with taking potshots at his political record and his religious convictions, but to ridicule a man for being faithful to his wife for 77 years, that’s just not an even remotely Christian thing to do. Even if Carter had been an atheist, no one should demean a person for honoring his or her marriage vows for decades…at least in my opinion.
I wear some pink during certain days for the breast cancer awareness month and on the cancer walk day we do each year, but otherwise I don’t really wear pink, but it’s still a cool hat.i like that style. .... i have a pink deer hunting hat that uses the same concept and turns images
of deer into camoflage... . .. i don;t wear it often coz i;m just not into wearing hats..... at least not
of that type... . my archery range hat is a full brimmed sun hat made of straw... .. and the one i
wear in the jungle/rainforest for hunting is a booney style camo hat... ..but i do wear a baseball
style hat under the hood of my ghilly suit... keeps the rain out of my eyes... .
but this is the hat i was talking about... .. pretty awesome... but i know not many men would
ever wear it... and i would be a little suspicious of them if they did.....
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LOL.
Since we're all into book recommendations, here's one I think is needed for certain former members of my audience
Careful though, if you two actually start reading what I've actually written, you may not have anything to talk about with each other.
