Pastor Chris Wolford - Soft White Underbelly

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That was a bunch of bad theology, as expected, but he did have some important truths on the money, but I wouldn’t advise digesting that much trash to get a few bites of meat.

So, what brought or compelled you to post that (particularly on a fundamental Baptist site)?
 
Huk said:
It’s a dying slice of backwoods Americana Christianity.
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Christianity is not a word I'd use in describing these folks.

The quicker this stuff dies out, the better. Actually, they're working hard to bring this about.
 
abcaines said:
Christianity is not a word I'd use in describing these folks.

The quicker this stuff dies out, the better. Actually, they're working hard to bring this about.
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They have the right to practice their interpretation of the Bible just like you do. Snake handling and strychnine-guzzling aside, much of what he said is not much different than what I heard growing up in an IFB church, particularly his views of the role of women in the church and his interpretation of it from Scripture.
 
Huk said:
Did you attend law school? LOL

It’s a dying slice of backwoods Americana Christianity. This particular church is the last remaining serpent-handling church in West Virginia. I read a recent article about this church due to a photo exhibition. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-handling-church-West-Virginia-pictures.html

Anything else?
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Just trying to make conversation. Relatively speaking, this geographic location ain’t far from me. And since we're sharing, you can tell a lot about people paying attention to what they like to talk about (or type as it were), but I will leave that alone right there. 😉
 
Huk said:
They have the right to practice their interpretation of the Bible just like you do. Snake handling and strychnine-guzzling aside, much of what he said is not much different than what I heard growing up in an IFB church, particularly his views of the role of women in the church and his interpretation of it from Scripture.
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

I'll not ever attempt to stop them by legislation but frankly, this is one practice I'd like to see die out. Preferably by abandoning.
 
Huk said:
They have the right to practice their interpretation of the Bible just like you do. Snake handling and strychnine-guzzling aside, much of what he said is not much different than what I heard growing up in an IFB church, particularly his views of the role of women in the church and his interpretation of it from Scripture.
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Agreed on the principle of freedom of religion, disagree with giving any sort of tacit approval of advocating this sort of abuse of Scripture to the point of killing people.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Agreed on the principle of freedom of religion, disagree with giving any sort of tacit approval of advocating this sort of abuse of Scripture to the point of killing people.
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I don’t agree with them whatsoever with the nonsense, but I also know they wouldn’t agree with me on some issues. I will say I found this pastor to possess a very humble spirit. It’s quite obvious he’s not a seminary educated individual, and it’s dubious whether he even graduated from high school, but he’s quite educated in the Scriptures and when he speaks of other Christians (he specifically mentions the local Baptists) who make fun of them and put their church down, and how he never does this back, it makes one wonder who’s really living in the spirit of God and who’s acting like the Pharisees.
 
abcaines said:
Christianity is not a word I'd use in describing these folks.
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Interestingly enough, your statement ties back to a thread a couple months ago I started regarding what constitutes a cult (we were talking about Jehovahs Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists at the time), and the fella/pastor in this video mentioned that he gets tired of being called a cult by neighboring churches (Baptist and Church of God were mentioned). Here’s a short read on Sect versus cult that seems applicable…


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Huk said:
I don’t agree with them whatsoever with the nonsense, but I also know they wouldn’t agree with me on some issues. I will say I found this pastor to possess a very humble spirit. It’s quite obvious he’s not a seminary educated individual, and it’s dubious whether he even graduated from high school, but he’s quite educated in the Scriptures and when he speaks of other Christians (he specifically mentions the local Baptists) who make fun of them and put their church down, and how he never does this back, it makes one wonder who’s really living in the spirit of God and who’s acting like the Pharisees.
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He may be a nice guy... I know atheists who are nice people. This doesn't change the fact that he's acting like a fool. I'd also be curious as to where he's stands on the Trinity. I was doing a little reading on these sects and they all descend from Pentacostal Holiness. There seem to be two camps: Trinitarian, who generally use the name Church of God... and non-trinitarian, who follow the moniker, Church of Jesus... this guy seems to be in the latter group. IF they fall into the non-trinitarian group, they are lost as a ball in tall grass which makes their deaths that much more tragic. I've run up against a number of Pentacostal Holiness types (none of them snake handlers) who vehemently deny the Trinity.
 
Huk said:
I don’t agree with them whatsoever with the nonsense, but I also know they wouldn’t agree with me on some issues. I will say I found this pastor to possess a very humble spirit. It’s quite obvious he’s not a seminary educated individual, and it’s dubious whether he even graduated from high school, but he’s quite educated in the Scriptures and when he speaks of other Christians (he specifically mentions the local Baptists) who make fun of them and put their church down, and how he never does this back, it makes one wonder who’s really living in the spirit of God and who’s acting like the Pharisees.
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He may be a nice guy... I know atheists who are nice people. This doesn't change the fact that he's acting like a fool. I'd also be curious as to where he's stands on the Trinity. I was doing a little reading on these sects and they all descend from Pentacostal Holiness. There seem to be two camps: Trinidadian, who generally use the name Church of God... and non-trinitarian, who follow the moniker, Church of Jesus... this guy seems to be in the latter group. IF they fall into the non-trinitarian group, they are lost as a ball in tall grass which makes their deaths that much more tragic. I've run up against a number of Pentacostal Holiness types (none of them snake handlers) who vehemently deny the Trinity
ALAYMAN said:
Interestingly enough, your statement ties back to a thread a couple months ago I started regarding what constitutes a cult (we were talking about Jehovahs Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists at the time), and the fella/pastor in this video mentioned that he gets tired of being called a cult by neighboring churches (Baptist and Church of God were mentioned). Here’s a short read on Sect versus cult that seems applicable…


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I think we were zeroing in on the same issue at the same time. For their eternal sakes, I do hope they affirm the Trinity. But as I've said, I am aware of Pentecostals who deny it.
 
abcaines said:
He may be a nice guy... I know atheists who are nice people. This doesn't change the fact that he's acting like a fool. I'd also be curious as to where he's stands on the Trinity. I was doing a little reading on these sects and they all descend from Pentacostal Holiness. There seem to be two camps: Trinitarian, who generally use the name Church of God... and non-trinitarian, who follow the moniker, Church of Jesus... this guy seems to be in the latter group. IF they fall into the non-trinitarian group, they are lost as a ball in tall grass which makes their deaths that much more tragic. I've run up against a number of Pentacostal Holiness types (none of them snake handlers) who vehemently deny the Trinity.
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Oneness Pentecostals aren’t monolithic, as some allow women preachers and some don’t. Based solely on his doctrine regarding women in ministry I don’t think you can deduce his stance on the Trinity. The independent ecclesiology among Pentecostals and Apostolics encompasses a wide spectrum of doctrinal similarities AND differences.
 
abcaines said:
He may be a nice guy... I know atheists who are nice people. This doesn't change the fact that he's acting like a fool. I'd also be curious as to where he's stands on the Trinity. I was doing a little reading on these sects and they all descend from Pentacostal Holiness. There seem to be two camps: Trinitarian, who generally use the name Church of God... and non-trinitarian, who follow the moniker, Church of Jesus... this guy seems to be in the latter group. IF they fall into the non-trinitarian group, they are lost as a ball in tall grass which makes their deaths that much more tragic. I've run up against a number of Pentacostal Holiness types (none of them snake handlers) who vehemently deny the Trinity.
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I did notice in several of his statements, the idea of eternal assurance of salvation seemed dubious at best. Maybe I was misinterpreting his statements, but he seems to indicate going to heaven as more of a hope than a foregone conclusion after salvation.
 
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