Other than friends what do you miss the most?

There is something I learned early in my Christian life.  Something I have proved over and over personally and something that has kept my perspective right all throughout HAC and after.
Men at their best are still men at best.
That has kept me spiritually sane throughout many disappointments in my own life.
I was tested immediately after graduation (the ink was barely dry on my diploma) and my division leader ran off with his secretary.
Not long after that I found out that my pastor's wife ran off with one of my friends in the church and a terrible divorce followed.
I could name disappointment after disappointment (not to mention times I let myself down.)
Thank God for His mercies and abounding grace...
 
brainisengaged said:
This is long, and somewhat of a rabbit trail, but here goes:

And just like that, from seemingly out of nowhere, another major step in the healing journey!

In the wake of the JS / FBC scandal, anger washed over me like a tidal wave that nearly consumed me.
Working through that anger has taken years, and healing for me could not be accomplished while still at First Baptist Church. The issues were too deep and healing was not happening there.

Little by little, God is helping me understand the anger and every time I understand a piece of my anger, it dissipates.

I?d actually thought it had all dissipated, but when recently someone posted something kind and sympathetic about Cindy Schaap in one of these threads, I typed a vitriolic response that showed not an ounce of sympathy. I refrained from posting that response but I pondered my reaction. Ever since the scandal broke, Cindy has evoked that angry response in me, and the strength of my anger toward her surprised me. I didn?t understand it so I put it off to the side.

Yesterday, through an absolutely unrelated event, I had cause to pray for someone who was experiencing an angry response to something and I prayed for God to open their eyes to the source of their anger and help them through it. Of course our dear God works in mysterious ways, and within several hours of that prayer, not only did the party for whom I?d prayed experience a dissipation of their anger, but I started to experience a personal episode of enlightenment that has caused me to understand my anger toward Cindy Schaap.
God made it clear to me that in the past I had used Cindy Hyles Schaap as the embodiment of the fruitless quest for perfection that was taught and preached at First Baptist Church.

On one thread about things that we miss about FBC, someone said they miss the sense of ?rightness?. Someone else said they miss their naivet?. Both of those ? a strong sense that all things FBC were absolutely right and my own naivet? as a new Christian when I arrived at FBC -- contributed to me buying into the Quest for Personal Perfection as a legitimate way of trying to be pleasing to God.

I came to Christ in my early twenties, and in my young ardent zeal for Him I was willing to throw aside everything I?d ever thought, hoped for, dreamed about, and accomplished in order to follow Him. So far, so good. I believe that is the response of a true follower. But?the message got mixed up because I landed as a new Christian straight into what I now view as a rabbit hole a la ?Alice in Wonderland?.

I entered immediately into the world of Independent Fundamental Baptist Standards for Living. Someone who kept the most and the best standards was someone who was really, really pleasing to God. Someone who didn?t keep his or her standards very well needed to keep trying, and maybe one day they could get better at standard-keeping and thus become more pleasing to God.

Jack Hyles held his daughter and the inner-circle core of First Baptist Girls up as quite the standard of feminine Christian perfection. It didn?t take me very long as a new Christian to realize it was really actually too late for me?after all, I was in my early twenties. I?d lived a ?before? life. I?d missed the boat for perfection. These girls, these personifications of perfection ? they?d never known a day where they weren?t living a life of standards that pleased God very, very much. They had the privilege of being in God?s Perfect Will. I learned at First Baptist Church, from Jack Hyles, that God has a Perfect Will for each of us. And as quickly as I learned that, I also learned that I?d of course missed it by not getting saved until I was 23 and by making some very wrong decisions prior to getting saved.

How defeated I felt, and how I admired and even envied those girls who by virtue of the strong fortress of separation surrounding them & guiding them & protecting them since birth had made all the right decisions and kept themselves smack dab in the Perfect Will of God.

*sigh*

Well, I learned there IS a consolation prize: the Acceptable Will of God. Basically what I understood was this: If you missed out on the Perfect Will of God, but you still wanted to try to please Him, you could latch on to his Acceptable Will at whatever point you were at,  trying your level best at all times to be as close to perfect as possible, and He will accept you.

So, I tried. I watched these women, these paragons of First Baptist virtue. I thought of them as Baptist Princesses, kind of in the same way that there are Disney Princesses. It?s a type. I wanted to be a Baptist Princess, but of course I was no Cinderella. I was more like one of the stepsisters, although not evil. Simply, not princess material.

Chief among princesses was Cindy Hyles Schaap. She was perfection personified. She was quick to tell you she was just a normal person, but the aura around her was definitely palpable. It had started with her father building her to us in his preaching and it carried on over to her husband extolling her virtues to us in his own preaching. Her mother had been a queen. She was a princess.

I admit what now seems so incomprehensible and sad to me ? I knew from all they told of her that she was far, far better than I. I knew she had an inroad to pleasing God that I could never, ever experience. I saw the showers of blessing she experienced non-stop. I thought if I could just be around her, rub shoulders with her in the smallest way every once in a while, be noticed by her ? maybe I could start to count for something a little more. Maybe because she walked in God?s sunlight at all times, I could catch a ray here or there by being like her as much as possible.

Some of you reading this will be thinking judgmental thoughts such as: Well, see? The Bible is true when it tells us how unwise it is to compare ourselves?or, Wow, she was jealous and envious of Cindy Schaap and we all know jealousy & envy are wrong.

Yes, and I knew that too! So that was just one more tool the Enemy used to beat me up. Not only could I never ever know the Perfect Will of God because I didn?t have the privilege of princess status from birth, but every shred of resentment, questioning, jealousy and envy I felt toward the Privileged Ones was wrong and came from a bad place in my heart and I knew it. So I channeled the jealousy and envy into submission ? since I accepted that she and her ilk were cut from a finer cloth of Christianity than I was, I accepted her as my liege and submitted myself to following her,  Christian Womanhood-style.

I tried so hard to fit into the mold. My husband never expected me to try to ?be like them? and he would try to make it clear to me that I should just be myself?but I had learned that ?myself? was a deeply flawed and imperfect and non-blessed person who was out of the Perfect Will of God. I wanted not to be myself. I wanted to be like them. And I secretly thought my quest was a pretty holy one that my husband wasn?t quite holy enough to be on.

This warped view of things is where I lived for a long, long time. So many wasted years, so much incorrect thinking, so strange a trip down the rabbit hole. In the wake of the scandal, as my eyes were opened to how imperfect these people were and how rotten the whole system really was, I got so angry at all the wasted time and all the embarrassingly wrong things I?d thought and been taught. My anger at Cindy was, I think, the last vestige of anger that needed to be understood and eliminated.  I now understand where it came from and I believe it has evaporated.

God is healing me piece by piece, and I simply praise Him for showing me that I am in His perfect will because I am His and He is mine.

Well said.  As I grow older, I look back at my experiences at HAC through different glasses.  I chose HAC to attend in the mid-70s , against my parents' wishes.  It was a decision that affected my future in many ways.

While it is easy for me to think of the negative things that happened and the leaders who did not necessarily lead by example, I was still inspired by messages I heard from the pulpit or quiet people who relayed their amazing testimonies.  Some students at HAC came from abusive homes and were able to hear messages of hope and love that only Christ can give.  It motivated me.  It helped shape me, and I wanted to make a difference.  I taught at a Christian school for four years.  The school was associated with a fine church where I met some quality people.  Thirty years later, they are still my friends,  and I know I can count on them for support and help with decision making.

What would my life be like had I not attended HAC and chosen a different path?  I like to imagine that I would have made more money and would have been more successful, but then I remember riding on a bus with other young Christian women.  We sang Bible verses all the way to Chicago on early Saturday mornings.  I remember singing Psalm 19

"The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple."
"More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb."

My sister often says, "We can become bitter or better."  I want to be better because bitterness can destroy.  I know it too well.
 
Jo said:
What would my life be like had I not attended HAC and chosen a different path?  I like to imagine that I would have made more money and would have been more successful

Can you please expound a bit on this?
 
brainisengaged said:
This is long, and somewhat of a rabbit trail, but here goes:

And just like that, from seemingly out of nowhere, another major step in the healing journey!

In the wake of the JS / FBC scandal, anger washed over me like a tidal wave that nearly consumed me.
Working through that anger has taken years, and healing for me could not be accomplished while still at First Baptist Church. The issues were too deep and healing was not happening there.

Little by little, God is helping me understand the anger and every time I understand a piece of my anger, it dissipates.

I?d actually thought it had all dissipated, but when recently someone posted something kind and sympathetic about Cindy Schaap in one of these threads, I typed a vitriolic response that showed not an ounce of sympathy. I refrained from posting that response but I pondered my reaction. Ever since the scandal broke, Cindy has evoked that angry response in me, and the strength of my anger toward her surprised me. I didn?t understand it so I put it off to the side.

Yesterday, through an absolutely unrelated event, I had cause to pray for someone who was experiencing an angry response to something and I prayed for God to open their eyes to the source of their anger and help them through it. Of course our dear God works in mysterious ways, and within several hours of that prayer, not only did the party for whom I?d prayed experience a dissipation of their anger, but I started to experience a personal episode of enlightenment that has caused me to understand my anger toward Cindy Schaap.
God made it clear to me that in the past I had used Cindy Hyles Schaap as the embodiment of the fruitless quest for perfection that was taught and preached at First Baptist Church.

On one thread about things that we miss about FBC, someone said they miss the sense of ?rightness?. Someone else said they miss their naivet?. Both of those ? a strong sense that all things FBC were absolutely right and my own naivet? as a new Christian when I arrived at FBC -- contributed to me buying into the Quest for Personal Perfection as a legitimate way of trying to be pleasing to God.

I came to Christ in my early twenties, and in my young ardent zeal for Him I was willing to throw aside everything I?d ever thought, hoped for, dreamed about, and accomplished in order to follow Him. So far, so good. I believe that is the response of a true follower. But?the message got mixed up because I landed as a new Christian straight into what I now view as a rabbit hole a la ?Alice in Wonderland?.

I entered immediately into the world of Independent Fundamental Baptist Standards for Living. Someone who kept the most and the best standards was someone who was really, really pleasing to God. Someone who didn?t keep his or her standards very well needed to keep trying, and maybe one day they could get better at standard-keeping and thus become more pleasing to God.

Jack Hyles held his daughter and the inner-circle core of First Baptist Girls up as quite the standard of feminine Christian perfection. It didn?t take me very long as a new Christian to realize it was really actually too late for me?after all, I was in my early twenties. I?d lived a ?before? life. I?d missed the boat for perfection. These girls, these personifications of perfection ? they?d never known a day where they weren?t living a life of standards that pleased God very, very much. They had the privilege of being in God?s Perfect Will. I learned at First Baptist Church, from Jack Hyles, that God has a Perfect Will for each of us. And as quickly as I learned that, I also learned that I?d of course missed it by not getting saved until I was 23 and by making some very wrong decisions prior to getting saved.

How defeated I felt, and how I admired and even envied those girls who by virtue of the strong fortress of separation surrounding them & guiding them & protecting them since birth had made all the right decisions and kept themselves smack dab in the Perfect Will of God.

*sigh*

Well, I learned there IS a consolation prize: the Acceptable Will of God. Basically what I understood was this: If you missed out on the Perfect Will of God, but you still wanted to try to please Him, you could latch on to his Acceptable Will at whatever point you were at,  trying your level best at all times to be as close to perfect as possible, and He will accept you.

So, I tried. I watched these women, these paragons of First Baptist virtue. I thought of them as Baptist Princesses, kind of in the same way that there are Disney Princesses. It?s a type. I wanted to be a Baptist Princess, but of course I was no Cinderella. I was more like one of the stepsisters, although not evil. Simply, not princess material.

Chief among princesses was Cindy Hyles Schaap. She was perfection personified. She was quick to tell you she was just a normal person, but the aura around her was definitely palpable. It had started with her father building her to us in his preaching and it carried on over to her husband extolling her virtues to us in his own preaching. Her mother had been a queen. She was a princess.

I admit what now seems so incomprehensible and sad to me ? I knew from all they told of her that she was far, far better than I. I knew she had an inroad to pleasing God that I could never, ever experience. I saw the showers of blessing she experienced non-stop. I thought if I could just be around her, rub shoulders with her in the smallest way every once in a while, be noticed by her ? maybe I could start to count for something a little more. Maybe because she walked in God?s sunlight at all times, I could catch a ray here or there by being like her as much as possible.

Some of you reading this will be thinking judgmental thoughts such as: Well, see? The Bible is true when it tells us how unwise it is to compare ourselves?or, Wow, she was jealous and envious of Cindy Schaap and we all know jealousy & envy are wrong.

Yes, and I knew that too! So that was just one more tool the Enemy used to beat me up. Not only could I never ever know the Perfect Will of God because I didn?t have the privilege of princess status from birth, but every shred of resentment, questioning, jealousy and envy I felt toward the Privileged Ones was wrong and came from a bad place in my heart and I knew it. So I channeled the jealousy and envy into submission ? since I accepted that she and her ilk were cut from a finer cloth of Christianity than I was, I accepted her as my liege and submitted myself to following her,  Christian Womanhood-style.

I tried so hard to fit into the mold. My husband never expected me to try to ?be like them? and he would try to make it clear to me that I should just be myself?but I had learned that ?myself? was a deeply flawed and imperfect and non-blessed person who was out of the Perfect Will of God. I wanted not to be myself. I wanted to be like them. And I secretly thought my quest was a pretty holy one that my husband wasn?t quite holy enough to be on.

This warped view of things is where I lived for a long, long time. So many wasted years, so much incorrect thinking, so strange a trip down the rabbit hole. In the wake of the scandal, as my eyes were opened to how imperfect these people were and how rotten the whole system really was, I got so angry at all the wasted time and all the embarrassingly wrong things I?d thought and been taught. My anger at Cindy was, I think, the last vestige of anger that needed to be understood and eliminated.  I now understand where it came from and I believe it has evaporated.

God is healing me piece by piece, and I simply praise Him for showing me that I am in His perfect will because I am His and He is mine.

And after everything that has happened I sometimes ask, do you think someone like Cindy Hyles Schaap sees herself now, do you think she ever thinks back and says, boy was I wrong.
 
RAIDER said:
Jo said:
What would my life be like had I not attended HAC and chosen a different path?  I like to imagine that I would have made more money and would have been more successful

Can you please expound a bit on this?

I meant that it is easy to imagine the road not taken.  Would I have been more successful or even happier if I had chosen an accredited school?  I'll never know.

I don't have great remorse over choosing HAC, but I occasionally reflect on what might have been.
 
Jo said:
RAIDER said:
Jo said:
What would my life be like had I not attended HAC and chosen a different path?  I like to imagine that I would have made more money and would have been more successful

Can you please expound a bit on this?

I meant that it is easy to imagine the road not taken.  Would I have been more successful or even happier if I had chosen an accredited school?  I'll never know.

I don't have great remorse over choosing HAC, but I occasionally reflect on what might have been.
I don't have any remorse about attending HAC, in fact, God gave me the love of my life there!
Not only that, I am privileged to have as my association great people like who post on this site!
 
I'm going to pretend that you meant me, not Raider :)
 
brainisengaged said:
This is long, and somewhat of a rabbit trail, but here goes:

And just like that, from seemingly out of nowhere, another major step in the healing journey!

In the wake of the JS / FBC scandal, anger washed over me like a tidal wave that nearly consumed me.
Working through that anger has taken years, and healing for me could not be accomplished while still at First Baptist Church. The issues were too deep and healing was not happening there.

Little by little, God is helping me understand the anger and every time I understand a piece of my anger, it dissipates.

I?d actually thought it had all dissipated, but when recently someone posted something kind and sympathetic about Cindy Schaap in one of these threads, I typed a vitriolic response that showed not an ounce of sympathy. I refrained from posting that response but I pondered my reaction. Ever since the scandal broke, Cindy has evoked that angry response in me, and the strength of my anger toward her surprised me. I didn?t understand it so I put it off to the side.

Yesterday, through an absolutely unrelated event, I had cause to pray for someone who was experiencing an angry response to something and I prayed for God to open their eyes to the source of their anger and help them through it. Of course our dear God works in mysterious ways, and within several hours of that prayer, not only did the party for whom I?d prayed experience a dissipation of their anger, but I started to experience a personal episode of enlightenment that has caused me to understand my anger toward Cindy Schaap.
God made it clear to me that in the past I had used Cindy Hyles Schaap as the embodiment of the fruitless quest for perfection that was taught and preached at First Baptist Church.

On one thread about things that we miss about FBC, someone said they miss the sense of ?rightness?. Someone else said they miss their naivet?. Both of those ? a strong sense that all things FBC were absolutely right and my own naivet? as a new Christian when I arrived at FBC -- contributed to me buying into the Quest for Personal Perfection as a legitimate way of trying to be pleasing to God.

I came to Christ in my early twenties, and in my young ardent zeal for Him I was willing to throw aside everything I?d ever thought, hoped for, dreamed about, and accomplished in order to follow Him. So far, so good. I believe that is the response of a true follower. But?the message got mixed up because I landed as a new Christian straight into what I now view as a rabbit hole a la ?Alice in Wonderland?.

I entered immediately into the world of Independent Fundamental Baptist Standards for Living. Someone who kept the most and the best standards was someone who was really, really pleasing to God. Someone who didn?t keep his or her standards very well needed to keep trying, and maybe one day they could get better at standard-keeping and thus become more pleasing to God.

Jack Hyles held his daughter and the inner-circle core of First Baptist Girls up as quite the standard of feminine Christian perfection. It didn?t take me very long as a new Christian to realize it was really actually too late for me?after all, I was in my early twenties. I?d lived a ?before? life. I?d missed the boat for perfection. These girls, these personifications of perfection ? they?d never known a day where they weren?t living a life of standards that pleased God very, very much. They had the privilege of being in God?s Perfect Will. I learned at First Baptist Church, from Jack Hyles, that God has a Perfect Will for each of us. And as quickly as I learned that, I also learned that I?d of course missed it by not getting saved until I was 23 and by making some very wrong decisions prior to getting saved.

How defeated I felt, and how I admired and even envied those girls who by virtue of the strong fortress of separation surrounding them & guiding them & protecting them since birth had made all the right decisions and kept themselves smack dab in the Perfect Will of God.

*sigh*

Well, I learned there IS a consolation prize: the Acceptable Will of God. Basically what I understood was this: If you missed out on the Perfect Will of God, but you still wanted to try to please Him, you could latch on to his Acceptable Will at whatever point you were at,  trying your level best at all times to be as close to perfect as possible, and He will accept you.

So, I tried. I watched these women, these paragons of First Baptist virtue. I thought of them as Baptist Princesses, kind of in the same way that there are Disney Princesses. It?s a type. I wanted to be a Baptist Princess, but of course I was no Cinderella. I was more like one of the stepsisters, although not evil. Simply, not princess material.

Chief among princesses was Cindy Hyles Schaap. She was perfection personified. She was quick to tell you she was just a normal person, but the aura around her was definitely palpable. It had started with her father building her to us in his preaching and it carried on over to her husband extolling her virtues to us in his own preaching. Her mother had been a queen. She was a princess.

I admit what now seems so incomprehensible and sad to me ? I knew from all they told of her that she was far, far better than I. I knew she had an inroad to pleasing God that I could never, ever experience. I saw the showers of blessing she experienced non-stop. I thought if I could just be around her, rub shoulders with her in the smallest way every once in a while, be noticed by her ? maybe I could start to count for something a little more. Maybe because she walked in God?s sunlight at all times, I could catch a ray here or there by being like her as much as possible.

Some of you reading this will be thinking judgmental thoughts such as: Well, see? The Bible is true when it tells us how unwise it is to compare ourselves?or, Wow, she was jealous and envious of Cindy Schaap and we all know jealousy & envy are wrong.

Yes, and I knew that too! So that was just one more tool the Enemy used to beat me up. Not only could I never ever know the Perfect Will of God because I didn?t have the privilege of princess status from birth, but every shred of resentment, questioning, jealousy and envy I felt toward the Privileged Ones was wrong and came from a bad place in my heart and I knew it. So I channeled the jealousy and envy into submission ? since I accepted that she and her ilk were cut from a finer cloth of Christianity than I was, I accepted her as my liege and submitted myself to following her,  Christian Womanhood-style.

I tried so hard to fit into the mold. My husband never expected me to try to ?be like them? and he would try to make it clear to me that I should just be myself?but I had learned that ?myself? was a deeply flawed and imperfect and non-blessed person who was out of the Perfect Will of God. I wanted not to be myself. I wanted to be like them. And I secretly thought my quest was a pretty holy one that my husband wasn?t quite holy enough to be on.

This warped view of things is where I lived for a long, long time. So many wasted years, so much incorrect thinking, so strange a trip down the rabbit hole. In the wake of the scandal, as my eyes were opened to how imperfect these people were and how rotten the whole system really was, I got so angry at all the wasted time and all the embarrassingly wrong things I?d thought and been taught. My anger at Cindy was, I think, the last vestige of anger that needed to be understood and eliminated.  I now understand where it came from and I believe it has evaporated.

God is healing me piece by piece, and I simply praise Him for showing me that I am in His perfect will because I am His and He is mine.

First of all, hugs to you.  I grew up in a similar situation with TWO perfect Preacher's daughters, so I get what you are saying.

I think CHS was much less perfect than we will ever know.  Especially in her own mind. 

God does heal.  You. Her.  All that have been/are broken.

Again, hugs to you!
 
RAIDER said:
If you were asked what you miss the most about being at HAC/FBCH what would you answer?  The answer cannot be "my friends".  Perhaps you don't miss anything.  That would be a fair answer.  Perhaps if you think for a few moments you will come up with an item or two.

*As always, one answer per post!

Saturdays in my Bible Club.
 
Other than missing Bro. Hyles, my youth, and some of my favorite people, there's not much I miss about my time there. 
My life was busy working 40 hours a week at jobs that I really didn't like along with juggling 15 to 18 credits a semester, along with long ministry hours on the weekend, along with putting up with all the rules of the college, along with seeing my wife a total of 5 hours a week, along with living in dismal NW Indana, along with spending inordinate amounts of money on the bus ministry,  along with getting walking pneumonia and other diseases, along with the 55 miles one way to the bus route, along with the city baptist bills, along with being denigrated by Roger Casteel and his merry pack of brown nosers, along with doing homework on your breaks at work....
No, I don't miss that life.  Glad I did it, wouldnt change it, it made me a better person, but I miss it like I miss bootcamp. 
 
Other than the Ice Cream, What do you miss most about Dairy Belle?

I'll tell you all one thing (and I have talked to one other staff member who feels the same).  We miss you.  Yes we go on and continue to labor together, but whether you left mad, disillusioned, or called away to another ministry we do miss you and the bond we once shared in the harmonious yoke of God's labor.

We are a people and FBCH is a relationship of people.  You only get to take 2 things from this earth to heaven.  1. is your soul and 2. your relationships.  Everything else in life is merely a tool to build those relationships and ultimately provoke each other to a better relationship with our Saviour. 

I was at a visitation last night for a former FBC staff member and many, many former members scattered amongst many different churches came to pay their respects.  So many great people and I miss them dearly.  Some left because they were upset.  I thought of what Heaven will be like.  All will be straightened out,  we will find out that we were all wrong in 1 point or another, we will find out that many of those things didn't matter at all and they were used as a wedge to destroy bonds of friendship and relationships that didn't need to happen at all.  I so look forward to heaven and seeing Jesus.  Upon seeing Him all strife will wash away and all these relationships will be restored in the love for each other we once knew but even stronger.  I wish for you now, wherever you are to bind in relationship with those that God has now given you and see them in the light of the grace of Jesus so that the Divider can never work his destruction in your relationships.

Even so Come Lord Jesus,  Merry and blessed Christmas to you and all of yours and may all of us take time to Praise Him for Him.

 
I miss Jack Hyles' preaching. I learned a lot and grew a lot. He was never boring, and I never had difficulty paying attention.
 
Tides of Truth, Well  said Merry Christmas to you and your family!!
 
Vince Massi said:
I miss Jack Hyles' preaching. I learned a lot and grew a lot. He was never boring, and I never had difficulty paying attention.

Well said.
 
I miss the hours we spent playing ping pong.  We were good in the day!
 
I won't say that I really miss these, but Wednesday evening services were my favorite of the week.

They still are.  I love Wednesday night service regardless of how tired I may be. 

I think, perhaps - at least while in college - Wednesday service was more of a Sunday service.  You wore your "Sunday best" on Wednesdays because you could not wear it on the bus routes, so Wednesday had that "Sunday best" specialness to it.

Then, just the actual Bible study of Wednesdays.  I love (d) the messages on Sundays, but I crave(d) the studies on Wednesdays, and I still do.   

 
I miss the comradery of almost everyone doing the same thing you do.  No one ever need to feel "alone in God's service" while there. 
 
I guess I have to say the Chili, Chips, & Cheese at Liberty Square. 

I make some pretty good chips myself, but they never seem to recall the precious memories of my friend and I trying to find enough spare change to buy one order to share. 

I would say, that now, I probably wouldn't even care to eat those they served there. 
 
A 32 oz grape juice for a buck!!!

earnestly contend

 
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