Obama debt hole deeper than George W. Bush's in less than half the time.

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Here is the cost of various Bush-era policies on the debt:

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And here is the individual contribution of these policies to the federal debt, starting in 2009 and then going forward for a decade or so.

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redgreen5 said:
rsc2a said:
redgreen5 said:
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GOP-controlled Congress.

Wait....what?
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Congress during the Bush years was almost totally GOP-controlled, especially during the timeframe when the spending and policy decisions that would most impact the debt and deficit were being made. Democrats didn't regain power till the 2006 offyear elections. 

Was that the point of my comment you were asking about?

Or was it something else?
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Yeah...see you have a problem with what the data actually shows then...


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1.  I already gave you the raw numbers.  I'm not sure why you think the graph is any different from them.  It is not (with the exception that it doesn't properly track Bush's off-the-books accounting for the war, which would boost his debt contribution by $2.7 trillion).

2.  Apparently you can't read data or a graph. The high peak in your graph between 2008 and 2010?  Guess what: that's 2009.  All the debt accumulated prior to 2009 was done on Bush's watch. That's where the high-water mark is, for debt under the Bush administration.

3. This graph is also misleading; the debt piling up now was caused by policy decisions and spending priorities in the first decade, 2001-2010.  It may come as a surprise to you, but decisions in the past really, truly do have impacts on future debt levels.  There isn't a giant eraser that wipes the chalkboard clean, just because we changed presidents.  The Bush tax cuts, the Bush Mideast wars, etc. all have impacts that continue long after Bush has left office. 

4. As I mentioned earlier,  we have $2.7 trillion of debt that will get classed as being under Obama, even though it was due to Bush cooking the accounting books on his watch. The only thing that Obama did was put a stop to the practice of off-book accounting that allowed Bush to camouflage the debt he was running up.

5.  Finally, how does this graph have anything to do with my statement about which parties were holding political power during the Bush years?
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2006 is earlier than 2009.  :-\
 
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2006 is earlier than 2009.  :-\
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Yes, it is. How is that relevant? 

My statement was that the high-water mark of Dubya's debt was in 2009.....?
 
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http://www.reagancoalition.com

LOL

Enough said.


Apparently the quote feature is beyond your feeble mind.  May want to fix that and credit the correct person.[/quote]

I did credit the correct person.  You quoted the original poster, which means you are *also* referring to the link when you made your comment "The only reason that Obama blah blah blah".

Apparently in your feeble mind, you don't realize that if you borrow someone else's citation and try to use it for your own purposes, then someone quoting you will also pick up the citation.

Duh.


 
We now add idiot to the growing list.    8)
 
redgreen5 said:
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http://www.reagancoalition.com

LOL

Enough said.


Apparently the quote feature is beyond your feeble mind.  May want to fix that and credit the correct person.
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I did credit the correct person.  You quoted the original poster, which means you are *also* referring to the link when you made your comment "The only reason that Obama blah blah blah".

Apparently in your feeble mind, you don't realize that if you borrow someone else's citation and try to use it for your own purposes, then someone quoting you will also pick up the citation.

Duh.
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So using your logic (insane as it is), since you are quoting me that quoted him, you are in reality agreeing with me quoting him.... or more precisely, I should screw up the quote feature to make it look like you said something you didn't (which in reality, seems to be the liberal mantra).

Seriously, you make the world a more stupid place.
 
[quote author=qwerty]So using your logic (insane as it is), since you are quoting me that quoted him, you are in reality agreeing with me quoting him[/quote]

More stupidity?  So early in the day?

That is your argument, not mine.  But by your argument, every time you quote what I say, you must agree with me. 
Probably the only smart thing you could do, actually.

If you can't be correct, then at least don't post comments with such obvious logic holes in them.  I will find them and point them out.
 
redgreen5 said:
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2006 is earlier than 2009.  :-\
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Yes, it is. How is that relevant? 

My statement was that the high-water mark of Dubya's debt was in 2009.....?
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Your statement was that the high-water mark of of the deficit occurred under President Bush and the GOP-controlled Congress. The Democrats regained control of Congress during 2006. The high-water mark was during 2009. Even using the way you do budgets (rolling the next year into the previous admin, etc), you STILL have the Democrats in control of Congress.

In fact, since spending bills come from Congress and not the President (although the president advises), you pretty much have to give Congress the credit/blame for federal government spending.
 
redgreen5 said:
T-Bone said:
We now add idiot to the growing list.    8)
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Are you making up a list of names for yourself?  Apparently so.
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Clever...who writes your material, Rachel Maddow?
 
T-Bone said:
redgreen5 said:
T-Bone said:
We now add idiot to the growing list.    8)
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Are you making up a list of names for yourself?  Apparently so.
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Clever...who writes your material, Rachel Maddow?
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You're the one tossing random insults around.  I just figured you were doing an objective review of your own intellect.  *shrug*
 
redgreen5 said:
T-Bone said:
redgreen5 said:
T-Bone said:
We now add idiot to the growing list.    8)
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Are you making up a list of names for yourself?  Apparently so.
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Clever...who writes your material, Rachel Maddow?
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You're the one tossing random insults around.  I just figured you were doing an objective review of your own intellect.  *shrug*
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Redgreen in action
 
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Redgreen in action
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Feelings of intellectual inadequacy lead immediately to toilet humor.
How proud you must be of yourself.
Yawn.
 
You got me...in a third grade mentally challenged kind of way
 
T-Bone said:
You got me...in a third grade mentally challenged kind of way
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That's how *everyone* gets you, T-Bone. You leave them little choice.
 
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