Illegal Alian Importers

FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Wow! I am so glad you know the motive of every single Mexican refugee in the US! Why aren't you making big bucks working a key position with ICE?

You assigned a motive to every single Mexican refugee... why can't I?

LOL!

Anyway, that reminded me of this clip...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8
 
LOL!

That should be the official video of the FFF!

And I own this mess!!! OY!!
 
Last Wednesday, I spent some time in the Prayer Corner of our food ministry. Among others, I spoke to and prayed with a Hispanic lady with two toddlers in tow. She was concerned about her older son who she fears is into illegal drugs...I mean undocumented drugs (forgive me Smellin and recovering). They are obviously illegals (undocumented) and she was concerned that her son may get the entire family into trouble. I asked her about the local "justice for all" group in town and she looked at me with disdain and called them 'people with hearts that bleed to use us for their own reasons'.

I couldn't have said it better myself..... ;)
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
I asked her about the local "justice for all" group in town and she looked at me with disdain and called them 'people with hearts that bleed to use us for their own reasons'.

It's all about that vote!
 
FSSL said:
LOL!

That should be the official video of the FFF!

And I own this mess!!! OY!!

Be careful what you wish for. Pee Wee will want you to pay royalties!
 
subllibrm said:
FSSL said:
LOL!

That should be the official video of the FFF!

And I own this mess!!! OY!!

Be careful what you wish for. Pee Wee will want you to pay royalties!

As long as he doesn't ask him to "hand over the goods"...

(Why did I just post that? :0 )
 
We have deported on average about 300,000 illegal aliens each year for the past 15 years.

I say we step up the deportation of those who commit crimes and then figure our what to do to make the others legal and at least issue green cards. We need to shut down the border to new illegals.

https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016

Definitions of Key ICE Terms

Arrest: An arrest, also called an apprehension, is defined as the ?act of detaining an individual by legal authority based on an alleged violation of the law.?

Border Removal: An individual removed by ICE who is apprehended by a CBP officer or agent while attempting to illicitly enter the United States at or between the ports of entry. These individuals are also referred to as recent border crossers.

Convicted Criminal: An individual convicted in the United States for one or more criminal offenses. This does not include civil traffic offenses.

Immigration Fugitives: An individual who has failed to leave the United States based on a final order of removal, deportation, or exclusion, or has failed to report to ICE after receiving notice to do so.

Intake: An intake is the first book-in into an ICE detention facility associated with a unique detention stay. This does not include transfers between ICE facilities.

Interior Removal: An individual removed by ICE who is identified or apprehended in the United States by an ICE officer or agent. This category excludes those apprehended at the immediate border while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States.

Other Removable Alien: An individual who is not a confirmed convicted criminal, recent border crosser or other ICE civil enforcement priority category. This category may include individuals removed on national security grounds or for general immigration violations.

Previously Removed Alien: An individual previously removed or returned who has re-entered the country illegally.

Reinstatement of prior Removal Order: The removal of an alien based on the reinstatement of a prior removal order, where the alien departed the United States under an order of removal and illegally reentered the United States (INA ? 241(a)(5)). The alien may be removed without a hearing before an immigration court.

Removal: The compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An individual who is removed may have administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry because of the removal. ICE removals include removals and returns where aliens were turned over to ICE for removal efforts.

Return: The confirmed movement of a potentially inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal, but through either voluntary departure, voluntary return, or withdrawal under docket control.
 
sword said:
We have deported on average about 300,000 illegal aliens each year for the past 15 years.

I say we step up the deportation of those who commit crimes and then figure our what to do to make the others legal and at least issue green cards. We need to shut down the border to new illegals.

https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016

Definitions of Key ICE Terms

Arrest: An arrest, also called an apprehension, is defined as the ?act of detaining an individual by legal authority based on an alleged violation of the law.?

Border Removal: An individual removed by ICE who is apprehended by a CBP officer or agent while attempting to illicitly enter the United States at or between the ports of entry. These individuals are also referred to as recent border crossers.

Convicted Criminal: An individual convicted in the United States for one or more criminal offenses. This does not include civil traffic offenses.

Immigration Fugitives: An individual who has failed to leave the United States based on a final order of removal, deportation, or exclusion, or has failed to report to ICE after receiving notice to do so.

Intake: An intake is the first book-in into an ICE detention facility associated with a unique detention stay. This does not include transfers between ICE facilities.

Interior Removal: An individual removed by ICE who is identified or apprehended in the United States by an ICE officer or agent. This category excludes those apprehended at the immediate border while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States.

Other Removable Alien: An individual who is not a confirmed convicted criminal, recent border crosser or other ICE civil enforcement priority category. This category may include individuals removed on national security grounds or for general immigration violations.

Previously Removed Alien: An individual previously removed or returned who has re-entered the country illegally.

Reinstatement of prior Removal Order: The removal of an alien based on the reinstatement of a prior removal order, where the alien departed the United States under an order of removal and illegally reentered the United States (INA ? 241(a)(5)). The alien may be removed without a hearing before an immigration court.

Removal: The compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An individual who is removed may have administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry because of the removal. ICE removals include removals and returns where aliens were turned over to ICE for removal efforts.

Return: The confirmed movement of a potentially inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal, but through either voluntary departure, voluntary return, or withdrawal under docket control.

Depending on the nature of the crime committed, I have no problem with deporting criminal illegals. But when say, a father is illegal but his children were born in the US, and that father has not committed any crime, why should we deport him away from his family? Why not try to legitimitize him?
 
Smellin Coffee said:
But when say, a father is illegal but his children were born in the US, and that father has not committed any crime, why should we deport him away from his family? Why not try to legitimitize him?

As if that was REALLY the liberal's concern....

Obama created a crisis by not controlling immigration. Obama prevented the officials along the border of Mexico from controlling the influx of many people (including known terrorists and dangerous people).

If the liberal shows REAL concern, THAT issue would be addressed, first. Since it isn't there is a credibility problem among those who allow dangerous people in, prevented under Obama.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
But when say, a father is illegal but his children were born in the US, and that father has not committed any crime, why should we deport him away from his family? Why not try to legitimitize him?

As if that was REALLY the liberal's concern....

Obama created a crisis by not controlling immigration. Obama prevented the officials along the border of Mexico from controlling the influx of many people (including known terrorists and dangerous people).

If the liberal shows REAL concern, THAT issue would be addressed, first. Since it isn't there is a credibility problem among those who allow dangerous people in, prevented under Obama.

I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff. Mexicans don't come here to commit a crime because our jails are nicer. The majority come here to work and make a better life for themselves. In 2005 Homeland Security reported that 1.7 million Mexicans crossed he border with about 36% apprehended. In 2015 170,000 Mexicans crossed the border with 54% apprehended.

We need reasonable border control but it needs to be based on true information.
 
LongGone said:
I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/25/us/hospitals-feeling-strain-from-illegal-immigrants.html

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/2070-illegal-immigrants-overrun-arizonas-emergency-rooms

"The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two ?anchor babies.?

http://www.wnd.com/2005/03/29329/#YQwGzLWeoJjjpzXd.99

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/04/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

"Despite being ineligible, some illegal aliens also get welfare the same way they get jobs: with identity documents falsely identifying them as U.S. citizens."

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrSbDqTU6ZYSDQAdMhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMHJyMzJzBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM0BHZ0aWQDQjI5NDFfMQRzZWMDc3I-?qid=20080728201531AALBOGG&p=do%20illegal%20immigrants%20get%20welfare

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/illegal-aliens-may-lose-of-some-medicare-benefits/


So you are correct.  We do not GIVE illegal's anything.  They TAKE it.
 
They get free stuff. http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households


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Twisted said:
So you are correct.  We do not GIVE illegal's anything.  They TAKE it.

Nice end point Twisted.

I find it a bit ironic that Alian is misspelled... it is almost Elian. Remember the kid the liberals sent back to communist Cuba? Elian Gonzalez.

Don't ever let liberals control immigration. They mess it up every time!
 
FSSL said:
They get free stuff. http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

Great link.  Of course FACTS like these will be ignored.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
But when say, a father is illegal but his children were born in the US, and that father has not committed any crime, why should we deport him away from his family? Why not try to legitimitize him?
As if that was REALLY the liberal's concern....
Obama created a crisis by not controlling immigration. Obama prevented the officials along the border of Mexico from controlling the influx of many people (including known terrorists and dangerous people).
If the liberal shows REAL concern, THAT issue would be addressed, first. Since it isn't there is a credibility problem among those who allow dangerous people in, prevented under Obama.
I support legislation that allows parents of U.S. citizens to be fast tracked for permanent status (green card). I also support full citizenship after 10 years, with no criminal record.

We also must change the rule regarding automatic citizenship if you are born here. This policy promotes people coming here illegally and not playing by the rules. The policy should say if your mom is here legally (Visa / Green card) then you get citizenship at birth otherwise you do not.

If I break into your home and sleep in your guest bedroom does that make me a member of your family. If my wife has a child, while staying in your home does that make them family? We need to stop illegal emigration and streamline the legal system.


 
LongGone said:
I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff.

1. Do illegal immigrants pay taxes?

2.  Do illegal immigrants receive government services?

If you answered "no" to 1 and "yes" to 2, illegal immigants do indeed get free stuff.
 
Ransom said:
LongGone said:
I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff.
1. Do illegal immigrants pay taxes?
2.  Do illegal immigrants receive government services?
If you answered "no" to 1 and "yes" to 2, illegal immigants do indeed get free stuff.

The federal gov. does collect billions in income taxes from residents who do not have a S.S. number. Many green card holders and illegals pay income taxes through the Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) system.

Though I commend illegals that do pay their income taxes faithfully, I still think they should be working through the steps to obtain a green card. Most "legal, non-citizens" also pay taxes through the ITIN system.
 
sword said:
Ransom said:
LongGone said:
I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff.
1. Do illegal immigrants pay taxes?
2.  Do illegal immigrants receive government services?
If you answered "no" to 1 and "yes" to 2, illegal immigants do indeed get free stuff.

The federal gov. does collect billions in income taxes from residents who do not have a S.S. number. Many green card holders and illegals pay income taxes through the Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) system.

Though I commend illegals that do pay their income taxes faithfully, I still think they should be working through the steps to obtain a green card. Most "legal, non-citizens" also pay taxes through the ITIN system.

Granted, the illegals who work using fake/stolen I.D.'s pay taxes, SSI, etc.  I'm not sure how this justifies anything, or maybe it's mentioned not to justify anything.

The ones standing in the Home Depot parking lot do not.

The FACTS are that illegals cost the US billions, plus the crime. disease, etc.
 
FSSL said:
Twisted said:
So you are correct.  We do not GIVE illegal's anything.  They TAKE it.

Nice end point Twisted.

I find it a bit ironic that Alian is misspelled... it is almost Elian. Remember the kid the liberals sent back to communist Cuba? Elian Gonzalez.

Don't ever let liberals control immigration. They mess it up every time!

I do love irony.  ;D

I didn't notice it until I had submitted. Weird thing; my browser does spell check for the body but not the title. Go figure?
 
Ransom said:
LongGone said:
I have no idea where you get your information.  Mexicans don't come here for free stuff because we don't give illegal immigrants free stuff.

1. Do illegal immigrants pay taxes?

2.  Do illegal immigrants receive government services?

If you answered "no" to 1 and "yes" to 2, illegal immigants do indeed get free stuff.

Yes, all immigrants of age pay taxes.
 
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