Good & Bad Classes at HAC

[RAIDER]

Before I enter this post let me say, we were all fooled.  The best classes while I was at HAC were taught by Joe Combs.  Church Ed was at it's most interesting while being taught by Dave Hyles.  Looking back now it saddens me.

 

[kaba]

I think it was Health and Safety as well,  Mr. Johnson taught it. For the longest time we were taught about some engine and how it worked.  I could (would) not get it!  Another was Mr. Smith (Mrs. Evan's brother) on how to print!! (Things I learned in grade school) I flunked out of the summer music class because I would not sing my name, hated hated hated that class, and with it being a summer class-waste of time and money!!


I liked Joe Combs' required Bible class, but it sickens me today to even think about him teaching God's word and do that horrible, abusive stuff to his adopted daughter!!! So he and Schaap are by far the  worst teachers, and human beings at HAC while I was there.

 

[fishinnut]

Old Testament taught by Jack Rose was another bad memory for me to this day. Memorizing the correct spelling of all the Kings was a total waste of time IMO. Lesson learned from their lives for or against God would have been direction to go. But all that I remember was how it just never will matter if one can spell those old names.

 

[RAIDER]

The funnest class that I had at HAC was called Concentrated Evangelism.  It was taught by Johnny Pope.  The first day of class he told us that it would look silly for HAC to have "recess" as a class in its handbook.  Instead, he said, we call it Concentrated Evangelism.  He wasn't kidding. 

 

[fishinnut]

The funnest class that I had at HAC was called Concentrated Evangelism.  It was taught by Johnny Pope.  The first day of class he told us that it would look silly for HAC to have "recess" as a class in its handbook.  Instead, he said, we call it Concentrated Evangelism.  He wasn't kidding. 

I always looked forward to Johnny's classes. My wife & I had met him before going to HAC. One day in class he asked me who I was dating.

I replied, "Nobody & don't tell my wife I am either."

 

[fishinnut]

Homiletic with Johnny Pope was great. One day he showed up about half an hour late.

He walked in about 4 feet off the ground with excitement & announced that he had gotten his earned Doctorate degree that morning. He had been on the way to the hospital taking his wife in to have a baby. They did not make it. Johnny stopped on the the way & helped deliver his own daughter in the car.

 

[kaba]

Love to hear Johnny Pope!! He comes to our church once in a great while!

 

[RAIDER]

Love to hear Johnny Pope!! He comes to our church once in a great while!

When I was a senior in high school my parents and I visited HAC.  We attended classes.  We were each given a Visitor's Form and told to put it on the lectern at the front of each class.  We decided to attend a class taught by Brother Pope.  We had no idea who he was.  He showed up to teach class 10 minutes late.  He slowly walked into class with his head hanging down.  He said, "Ohhhhh fellows, I've got it coming out both ends.......".  As he was saying this he looked on the lectern and saw our Visitor Forms.  He didn't take a breath from his first sentence but continued on, "......and we have visitors in class today".  The place lost it, including my dad and me.  We laughed about it for years.

 

[Mathew Ward]

Best teacher at HAC was Joe Combs, and no one else was close. The Godly students sought out his classes, regardless of subject, while the ungodly students avoided them.

I thought you were using sarcasm to make a point.

Honest Injun, Norefund, I'm serious. Students who despised Godliness, practiced gang violence, did little or no soul-winning, ridiculed Godly teachers and students, practiced scorning, etc., became known. And they avoided Joe's classes. Students who read the Bible on their own, often went forward at church, worked long hours at soul-winning and bus visitation, etc., were also known. They sought out Joe's classes.

Just sitting in his classes, you could feel the better atmosphere.

This is s sad commentary on the students imho.

 

[RAIDER]

Best teacher at HAC was Joe Combs, and no one else was close. The Godly students sought out his classes, regardless of subject, while the ungodly students avoided them.

I thought you were using sarcasm to make a point.

Honest Injun, Norefund, I'm serious. Students who despised Godliness, practiced gang violence, did little or no soul-winning, ridiculed Godly teachers and students, practiced scorning, etc., became known. And they avoided Joe's classes. Students who read the Bible on their own, often went forward at church, worked long hours at soul-winning and bus visitation, etc., were also known. They sought out Joe's classes.

Just sitting in his classes, you could feel the better atmosphere.

This is s sad commentary on the students imho.

I was at HAC for four years during Joe Combs time there.  I have no idea who this group of students were.  I think Vince may have been dreaming.

 

[kaba]

I agree with you Raider. If I remember right, his Old Testament and New Testament was required for everyone!

 

[Vince Massi]

Brethren, it is a painful mystery of history: how did Joe do it? His classes were by far the best at HAC, and the Godly students sought them out. He had both required and elective classes, and he excelled in all of them. I'm convinced that there is more than one reason:

1) Nobody else at HAC  was teaching these Biblical truths.
2) The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit divides spiritual gifts to every man separately as He wills. God gave Joe spiritual gifts that made him a successful teacher. Since the gifts and calling of God are without repentance, Joe never lost these gifts.
3) Joe plagiarized the works of good teachers. Actually, most good teachers do.
4) The students were eager to learn things they didn't already know. Most Bible teaching I had consisted of more and different ways to say the same things.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Vince Massi]Honest Injun, Norefund, I'm serious. Students who despised Godliness, practiced gang violence, did little or no soul-winning, ridiculed Godly teachers and students, practiced scorning, etc., became known. And they avoided Joe's classes. Students who read the Bible on their own, often went forward at church, worked long hours at soul-winning and bus visitation, etc., were also known. They sought out Joe's classes.

Just sitting in his classes, you could feel the better atmosphere.
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Pharisees: judging people by outward appearances for 2000+ years.

 

[IFB X-Files]

Pharisees: judging people by outward appearances for 2000+ years.

And why do you think this forum is so popular!

 

[prophet]

Any thoughts on Bill Grady's classes?

To be honest I enjoyed them, I enjoyed him. He was a different personality than the other teachers. He was sarcastic with the students, not to demean them but he had a good time with them. I did not have an issue with his tests after the first one was done. He seemed to have his Gradyites lol.

I liked him, but he was clearly his own biggest fan.

Do any of you insiders know the full story why he was asked to leave?

Schaap, and his other Bible-correcting cronies (Moore, etc.)
Tried to tell Grady what he could/could not say, in that P.S. about the KJV.
Grady refused to "rewrite his book", in effect, for the conference, so he sat out completely.  He was supposed to be the headliner that week.
Schaap was always in J.H.'s ear, telling him Grady was a Ruckmanite,  Dispensationalist, etc.
Satan had his kingdom to protect, and he had lost Combs, so.....

 

[prophet]

Best teacher at HAC was Joe Combs, and no one else was close. The Godly students sought out his classes, regardless of subject, while the ungodly students avoided them.

I thought you were using sarcasm to make a point.

Honest Injun, Norefund, I'm serious. Students who despised Godliness, practiced gang violence, did little or no soul-winning, ridiculed Godly teachers and students, practiced scorning, etc., became known. And they avoided Joe's classes. Students who read the Bible on their own, often went forward at church, worked long hours at soul-winning and bus visitation, etc., were also known. They sought out Joe's classes.

Just sitting in his classes, you could feel the better atmosphere.

This is s sad commentary on the students imho.

I was at HAC for four years during Joe Combs time there.  I have no idea who this group of students were.  I think Vince may have been dreaming.

Joe was the anti-KJV guy, undercover as a Bible teacher.
So there is an agenda, here.
Same Devil that possessed Schaap, always there, lurking, possessing another reprobate, and making him wildly popular, in order to weaken the belief in God's Word.
Sometimes it was a Greek teacher, other times it was a favorite guest speaker.  Davey boy was on that team, as well.

 

[IFB X-Files]

Schaap was always in J.H.'s ear, telling him Grady was a Ruckmanite,  Dispensationalist, etc.

Grady is.  No surprise there.  Go to  http://gradypublications.com  and watch his chapel message preached at Crown College.

 

[prophet]

Schaap was always in J.H.'s ear, telling him Grady was a Ruckmanite,  Dispensationalist, etc.

Grady is.  No surprise there.  Go to  http://gradypublications.com  and watch his chapel message preached at Crown College.

Yes. I have, and he is.

Point was, that Grady was a big Combs fan, until Patterson convinced him to look at the material that Ruckman had gathered.
The rest is history.

Once he wrote the Final Authority, the "Originals Superiority" gang had it out for him.
Grady never taught any of Petey Pimp's Whacky doctrine at Hac, but that is what Doofus used to bend Bro. Hyles' ear.

 

[patriotic]

Content wise the best - Mrs. Eidson's Teaching Music; Mrs. Barber's Lit classes and her General Teaching Methods; upper level history classes - both Dr. Evans's and Dr. Rasmussen's.  Believe it or not, Dr. Jorgensen's Philosophy of Education was one of my favorite as far as content goes, and in spite of his delivery (zzzzzzzzzz) I really enjoyed the class.

Content wise worst - The 3 days I spent in Schaap's New Testament Survey before dropping it.  Never took another class from him, and barely stood for him when he preached in chapel.  He ALWAYS gave me the heebie-jeebies.  Mrs. Evans's classes really taught very little about what the course title was, but she was able to insert much practical life knowledge in statements that come to mind time and time again.

Never had Laurent;  enjoyed content and learned much in Combs's classes, but he always gave me the heebie-jeebies too. 

Evidently, education majors had the opportunity to actually learn more there.  There were some pretty awesome educators in that department. 

 

[RAIDER]

Point was, that Grady was a big Combs fan, until Patterson convinced him to look at the material that Ruckman had gathered.
The rest is history.


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I was a freshman in '79.  Grady was still a student.  I can remember him talking to me and my parents in the HAC parking lot and telling me to take as many of Comb's classes as possible.  He was a big fan at that time.