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Why are people showing up at FEMA sights with weapons? Bringing food or clothing would be more appropriate.

I should have said “why would anyone show up …”

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William Parsons, man arrested over FEMA threats, speaks out

William Parsons was charged with "going armed to the terror of the public" after he showed up at a FEMA site with a gun.
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It seems that the man went there expecting to get into an altercation with the FEMA personnel. By his own admission his actions were based on “misinformation” which was more accurately exaggeration about the FEMA response.
 
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subllibrm said:
Why are people showing up at FEMA sights with weapons? Bringing food or clothing would be more appropriate.
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The government will tell you that my following statement is misinformation. Believe me, it's not. There have been areas in both East Tennessee and Western North Carolina where FEMA workers have stopped the locals from helping by distributing food and water. There excuse was because there needed to be structure to what was going on. There was, but not like the federal government wanted. I can fully understand their frustration. In most areas now everyone is playing nice
 
qwerty said:
People were open carrying and it caused some folks to clutch their pearls.
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With all the crap that FEMA is pulling in some of the affected areas I can fully understand why some of these people are getting frustrated. Some of our friends in NC have witnessed first hand where FEMA has interfered with or totally blocked local organizations from assisting those affected. Don't fully buy that innocent act the Federal Government is putting forward.
 
AverageJoe said:
If I recall correctly FEMA officials are not allowed to carry firearms.
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i know....and you are correct.... we have a good friend here who works for FEMA ..... and he said he doesn;t carry a firearm.... however ..he does say they have special forces military police that accompany them in most of the places they work that might be dangerous..... guys like this... from the 902nd special forces security division.....

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i was asking subllibrm that question because he obviously posted his OP after reading fake news media reports that private armed militia was showing up in mass to threaten FEMA..... that first and false report was made after a FEMA employee freaked out when one individual sitting in his car with a gun was arrested in the parking lot.....

even CNN had to post this story below debunking the original reports of threats and "truck loads of militia" showing up at FEMA sites...... ... but strangely enough.. like the dimmocrat he is ... sub either missed that the first report was declared false or chose to ignore it.... ....it;s much more fun for dimmocrats to keep the smoke from all the false angst and outrage circulating - rather than fan it away with the truth... and bring in some fresh air......

 
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subllibrm said:
Why are people showing up at FEMA sights with weapons? Bringing food or clothing would be more appropriate.
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why don;t you contact the one person who actually did show up at FEMA with a gun in his car?..... .(and by the way... he was only one person.... not "people" as you stated)..... ...he was already known for making threats and was promplty arrested ..... but since then has been released on bond...... his name is readly available in the news reports and i;m sure he would be glad to answer any questions you might have.... ... but even CNN admitted he was simply one unstable individual who acted alone... ..no reports of whether he also had food or clothing in his car... the msm wouldn;t mention that anyway even if he did..... but maybe you could ask him that as well - then come back to us with a full report... ;)

 
AverageJoe said:
The government will tell you that my following statement is misinformation. Believe me, it's not. There have been areas in both East Tennessee and Western North Carolina where FEMA workers have stopped the locals from helping by distributing food and water. There excuse was because there needed to be structure to what was going on. There was, but not like the federal government wanted. I can fully understand their frustration. In most areas now everyone is playing nice
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The issue as I understand it is that people with good intentions have to be pulled back from interfering with the process. FEMA is a first responder organization and has the experience, knowledge and training for mass emergency situations. The threats of arrest that I saw reported were towards people who refused to comply with FEMA instructions.

For example the local volunteer fire department will ask the LEO onsite to remove people who are “trying to help” but are in the way and creating additional risk to themselves and the crew responding. Organization is always better than chaos.

Basically the hurricane was used by the internet rage machine to convince people that FEMA is somehow evil. My facebook feed had posts stating that FEMA was specifically rejecting help from Christian groups and at the same time I was seeing multiple posts from Christian friends asking for prayers for their groups on the ground helping. The gentleman in the article bought the anti FEMA story hook line and sinker as did way too many other people.

www.newsweek.com

William Parsons, man arrested over FEMA threats, speaks out

William Parsons was charged with "going armed to the terror of the public" after he showed up at a FEMA site with a gun.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
subllibrm said:
Why are people showing up at FEMA sights with weapons? Bringing food or clothing would be more appropriate.

I should have said “why would anyone show up …”

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that would have been the honest thing to do... .. but that would have provided too much accurate information up front... and you might have been deprived of running another veiled orange man evil thread... or baiting the forum with another one of your disingenuous "rorsarch tests" ....

....no.... i think you started off exactly the way you intended...with hopes of enjoying a "gotcha" moment somewhere along the line..... ... unfortunately for you it backfired..... again..... :LOL:
 
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In regards to people showing up to help being armed, there are some parts of the country where a good percentage of the population are always carring and they rarely go anywhere without a sidearm. Someone showing up to a diaster site with their sidearm on their side does not seem that out of the ordanary to me, but I suspect it would seem extreme in NYC or Chicago where few people are allowed to conceal carry.
 
aleshanee said:
that would have been the honest thing to do... .. but that would have provided too much accurate information up front... and you might have been deprived of running another veiled orange man evil thread... or baiting the forum with another one of your disingenuous "rorsarch tests" ....

....no.... i think you started off exactly the way you intended...with hopes of enjoying a "gotcha" moment somewhere along the line..... ... unfortunately for you it backfired..... again..... :LOL:
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I must say that your ability to read into my posts things that are not there is incredible.
 
subllibrm said:
aleshanee said:
that would have been the honest thing to do... .. but that would have provided too much accurate information up front... and you might have been deprived of running another veiled orange man evil thread... or baiting the forum with another one of your disingenuous "rorsarch tests" ....

....no.... i think you started off exactly the way you intended...with hopes of enjoying a "gotcha" moment somewhere along the line..... ... unfortunately for you it backfired..... again..... :LOL:
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“It seems that the man went there expecting to get into an altercation with the FEMA personnel. By his own admission his actions were based on “misinformation” which was more accurately exaggeration about the FEMA response.”


Also noticed that you deleted much of my post where I clearly explained myself. The point of the OP was about how people have bought into the “FEMA evil” narrative. The fellow who was arrested said that he had heard about the terrible things FEMA was doing and went there willing to confront them with violence. Christians involved in spreading the nonsense weren’t helping the situation by pouring gas on the fire of social media righteous indignation.
 
So we now know what Steve Anderson has been up to.

That being said, I have a relative involved with some three letter agencies, and actually did some work with FEMA for awhile ... They said years ago to be leery of FEMA, I am slowly understanding why.
 
subllibrm said:
“It seems that the man went there expecting to get into an altercation with the FEMA personnel. By his own admission his actions were based on “misinformation” which was more accurately exaggeration about the FEMA response.”


Also noticed that you deleted much of my post where I clearly explained myself. The point of the OP was about how people have bought into the “FEMA evil” narrative. The fellow who was arrested said that he had heard about the terrible things FEMA was doing and went there willing to confront them with violence. Christians involved in spreading the nonsense weren’t helping the situation by pouring gas on the fire of social media righteous indignation.
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oh.... boo hoody hoo...:cry:.... i deleted the part that you should have put into your original post in the first place - but which you left out on purpose in order to attempt another one of your demented "christians are evil" posts ..straight out of the kamala harris play book.......... ...and now you want to feign offense....:rolleyes:... .. what i did was remove your attempt to spin the OP after being caught red handed.... and deflect from your original intention...... ..so i ask you again - mr holier than thou... .... is there anything genuine about you at all?.......... ......all your "news" is either posted from left wing propaganda rags posing as news agencies... or worse... facebook/fakebook ......

fact is... FEMA is given enormous power when an emergency is declared and most FEMA employees do good work most everywhere they go... that includes most of the work they have done in north carolina.... . . but it;s also a fact that some FEMA employees abuse that power and do exactly what averagejoe posted about... he;s relaying what people affected in the hardest hit areas reported days after the hurricane when FEMA ..(famous for being late to every party)... was nowhere to be found ... and then later came in like gangbusters trying to run over everyone who had already been assisting those in need.....averagejoe even said it has all settled down now and was working the way it should... ....... .

but rather than let the people on the ground in the hardest hit areas be heard about all that and other abuses that might still be happening .... you chose to repeat the fake news mantras dictated to the liberal press by the biden/harris admin... which paints FEMA under biden and harris as perfect angels of mercy being persecuted by evil trump and his devlish supporters....... ...

i would loan you my old che guevara t-shirt.. (given to me as a joke in college)... .. but i am beginning to believe you already have one..... ..... if not just ask your future president mamala.... she probably has a whole closet full of them..... :sneaky:
 
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aleshanee said:
i know....and you are correct.... we have a good friend here who works for FEMA ..... and he said he doesn;t carry a firearm.... however ..he does say they have special forces military police that accompany them in most of the places they work that might be dangerous..... guys like this... from the 902nd special forces security division.....

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i was asking subllibrm that question because he obviously posted his OP after reading fake news media reports that private armed militia was showing up in mass to threaten FEMA..... that first and false report was made after a FEMA employee freaked out when one individual sitting in his car with a gun was arrested in the parking lot.....

even CNN had to post this story below debunking the original reports of threats and "truck loads of militia" showing up at FEMA sites...... ... but strangely enough.. like the dimmocrat he is ... sub either missed that the first report was declared false or chose to ignore it.... ....it;s much more fun for dimmocrats to keep the smoke from all the false angst and outrage circulating - rather than fan it away with the truth... and bring in some fresh air......

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Ya, I know. My friends said where they are three people were open carrying and it scared the bajeepers out of the lilly livered FEMA officials. The people carrying NEVER took their weapons from their holsters, but the fema people refused to help unless they put the weapons in their homes or vehicles. There weren't any military with them. This crap has got to stop.
 
qwerty said:
So we now know what Steve Anderson has been up to.

That being said, I have a relative involved with some three letter agencies, and actually did some work with FEMA for awhile ... They said years ago to be leery of FEMA, I am slowly understanding why.
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my dad was firefighter/paramedic and first responder for 35 years.. ... and worked directly under FEMA during mass disasters more than once..... he appreciated most of what they offered but says the very same thing your relative says..... even our friend who works for FEMA here in the pacific says it.....
 
AverageJoe said:
Ya, I know. My friends said where they are three people were open carrying and it scared the bajeepers out of the lilly livered FEMA officials. The people carrying NEVER took their weapons from their holsters, but the fema people refused to help unless they put the weapons in their homes or vehicles. There weren't any military with them. This crap has got to stop.
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If they were at a FEMA site like a disaster recovery site they should have been happy they were only asked to put their weapons in their vehicle. Once those sites are rented by FEMA they are federal property. The legal ability to concealed/open carry does not extend to federal property.
 
qwerty said:
That being said, I have a relative involved with some three letter agencies, and actually did some work with FEMA for awhile ... They said years ago to be leery of FEMA, I am slowly understanding why.
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They're a federal agency. They work at half the speed and twice the cost. An agency like FEMA is physically incapable of getting boots on the ground with the efficiency of a private charity like, say, Samaritan's Purse.
 
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