BBQ, Biscuits (and more)

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I"ve seen lists similar to this before. I don't always agree with their assessments.
Biscuits, like every other food item, differ from person to person. Personally, I like soft and fluffy biscuits (like Bojangles normally produces). I don’t like the harder style biscuits, but I’ve met people who like their biscuits like hockey pucks. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Biscuits, like every other food item, differ from person to person. Personally, I like soft and fluffy biscuits (like Bojangles normally produces). I don’t like the harder style biscuits, but I’ve met people who like their biscuits like hockey pucks. 🤷🏻‍♂️
When we lived with my wife's uncle and aunt back in 1984, we noticed that he made biscuits that were flat as a pancake. Vivian's aunt wanted them like that because that's how HER mother used to make them when she was growing up. Her aunt's family had 12 kids, and there were four adults (grandparents of one of the parents) as well. So, for 16 people, that would have been a LOAD of milk and flour. They didn't like all the bread in between the top and bottom. We used to call them "bread cookies!" Now Vivian's biscuits are light and fluffy, just like Bojangles, and she really can make 'em well. Everybody in my family and all of our friends LOVE her biscuits.
 
When we lived with my wife's uncle and aunt back in 1984, we noticed that he made biscuits that were flat as a pancake. Vivian's aunt wanted them like that because that's how HER mother used to make them when she was growing up. Her aunt's family had 12 kids, and there were four adults (grandparents of one of the parents) as well. So, for 16 people, that would have been a LOAD of milk and flour. They didn't like all the bread in between the top and bottom. We used to call them "bread cookies!" Now Vivian's biscuits are light and fluffy, just like Bojangles, and she really can make 'em well. Everybody in my family and all of our friends LOVE her biscuits.
You make a good point. I guess when mom really has to take into consideration a bunch of mouths to feed on a shoestring budget, something has to give. I definitely didn’t grow up in a wealthy family, probably solid middle class, but thankfully we were well enough off that I never had to worry about being hungry or mom skimping on the food quantity or quality. Now on the other hand, we didn’t eat out at restaurants often, but I knew I was expected to not order anything “too expensive” and anything other than water was usually out of the question.
 
You make a good point. I guess when mom really has to take into consideration a bunch of mouths to feed on a shoestring budget, something has to give. I definitely didn’t grow up in a wealthy family, probably solid middle class, but thankfully we were well enough off that I never had to worry about being hungry or mom skimping on the food quantity or quality. Now on the other hand, we didn’t eat out at restaurants often, but I knew I was expected to not order anything “too expensive” and anything other than water was usually out of the question.
I know how you feel. I was raised in a solid "middle-class" home. Dad always owned his own business and worked jobs on the side as well. My five siblings in this branch of the family always had friends over, so we always had more people than food, but, we never really went hungry. Mom was an excellent cook, and we had some friends who were farmers, and they would donate some of their crops to the largest families in the church. We were one of them. This helped significantly. God always blessed us with enough flour, oil, eggs, and milk to make the goods we needed to keep us going. Dad used to bring home several bags of groceries, and he'd always make mention how $30 didn't buy much anymore, and this included the meat for the week. Vivian and I went to the store last week, and just THREE bags of groceries had the cost of $156. Two years ago the cost for the same items was only $101. And this happens every week. We eat a LOT of biscuits now since bread is even getting to be expensive here...over $3.00 a loaf. Gas is less expensive.
 
Don’t know if this is BBQ blasphemy but I never was a fan of coleslaw, on a sammich or plain on the side.
It is a regional thing and this is how you have to appreciate it! First time I had a barbeque sandwich topped with cole slaw was during my time in Memphis. Was a really strange experience the first time but I found a great barbeque joint where had at least a dozen or so pulled pork sandwiches during my time there!
 
It is a regional thing and this is how you have to appreciate it! First time I had a barbeque sandwich topped with cole slaw was during my time in Memphis. Was a really strange experience the first time but I found a great barbeque joint where had at least a dozen or so pulled pork sandwiches during my time there!
We love Memphis BBQ! It's great! So is KC style!
 
As a type 2 diabetic I really appreciate the strides the food industry has made on creating a variety of options for bread replacements so I won't have an A1C in the 10+ range, but if they could get busy finding a suitably low glycemic replacement for the common biscuit I sure would be most appreciative.
 
As a type 2 diabetic I really appreciate the strides the food industry has made on creating a variety of options for bread replacements so I won't have an A1C in the 10+ range, but if they could get busy finding a suitably low glycemic replacement for the common biscuit I sure would be most appreciative.
For me, I don't skimp when it comes to biscuits. I'm a type 2 diabetic, and I do limit my carb intake, but not substantially. The last A1C I had done this past week was at 7, down from the 11 that it was the time before. Of course, I'm back on my medications and insulin. I hadn't been for nearly 18 months. Don't let the industry fool you into thinking that "carbs are the enemy." This couldn't be further from the truth.
 
For me, I don't skimp when it comes to biscuits. I'm a type 2 diabetic, and I do limit my carb intake, but not substantially. The last A1C I had done this past week was at 7, down from the 11 that it was the time before.

CONGRATS!

Don't let the industry fool you into thinking that "carbs are the enemy." This couldn't be further from the truth.

How so?
 
CONGRATS!



How so?
If people would only control their appetites and keep themselves from overeating bread/carbs it wouldn't be a problem. 8 out of 10 people would still be able to lose and maintain a healthier weight and still eat what they love.
 
I’ve been prediabetic for several years. I finally started taking my diet seriously after my A1C got up to around 6.7 and was then prescribed medication, which I didn’t like. I’ve been on no medication for about a year and have kept my A1C around 5.9/6.0 area by limiting carbs to only one carb per meal. It has been a life adjustment, but I’ve gotten pretty used to it at this point. A few helpful tips I’ve learned from trial and error:

* Little Caesar’s thin crust pizza is about the only pizza I’ve found that doesn’t raise my sugar levels very much. I was never a thin crust guy, but now I have to be.

* Tuesday Taco has been replaced by Tuesday Taco Salad days.

* Keto bread from Walmart has been a lifesaver.

* Barbecue is now eaten as an open face sandwich or just the meat by itself.

* Fortunately, I’ve never been a big dessert guy, but if I do, I try sugar free stuff, but this is rare because I don’t eat sugary stuff often.

* Sweet tea is now sweetened with substitutes instead of sugar.

* I will add that I do take two cinnamon supplements a day. The research shows in some people it works in a way similar to Metformin, but not in every case. For me, it seems to have worked. My doctor said it does lower your ALC a little.
 
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I’ve been prediabetic for several years. I finally started taking my diet seriously after my A1C got up to around 6.7 and was then prescribed medication, which I didn’t like. I’ve been on no medication for about a year and have kept my A1C around 5.9/6.0 area by limiting carbs to only one carb per meal. It has been a life adjustment, but I’ve gotten pretty used to it at this point. A few helpful tips I’ve learned from trial and error:

* Little Caesar’s thin crust pizza is about the only pizza I’ve found that doesn’t raise my sugar levels very much. I was never a thin crust guy, but now I have to be.

* Tuesday Taco has been replaced by Tuesday Taco Salad days.

* Keto bread from Walmart has been a lifesaver.

* Barbecue is now eaten as an open face sandwich or just the meat by itself.

* Fortunately, I’ve never been a big dessert guy, but if I do, I try sugar free stuff, but this is rare because I don’t eat sugary stuff often.

* Sweet tea is now sweetened with substitutes instead of sugar.

* I will add that I do take two cinnamon supplements a day. The research shows in some people it works in a way similar to Metformin, but not in every case. For me, it seems to have worked. My doctor said it does lower your ALC a little.

I also utilize your methodology in points 2,3,4, and 6. Cheese, of many kinds replace poor food group snacks, and since I am a sweet-junkie I can't get away from your #5 diabetic difficulty but as a substitute for Snickers bars and Little Debbies there are a variety of (very expensive) alternative hard candy and sugar-free chocolate stuff.
 
I should add, I try to walk for a minimum of 30 minutes a night, 60 if I have time. I mix in a little weightlifting during the hour as well. I’ve been doing this for close to twenty years, but I notice my A1C does go up if I begin to slack with this routine.
 
I"ve seen lists similar to this before. I don't always agree with their assessments.
i don;t know about the other states.... but i don;t agree with what the makers of that list said about hawaii at all..... that restaurant they named that is supposed to be famous for biscuits, is supposedly on maui.. and nobody i know has ever heard of it..... of course nobody i know here in hawaii eats biscuits and gravy either... not ever..... it;s just not a big thing in hawaii...

it reminds me of a similar list posted here once about the deadliest animal in every state - that listed the hawaiian box jellyfish as the most deadly animal in hawaii.... nobody i ever heard about was ever killed by a box jellyfish in hawaii either..... . but meanwhile - we have these things swimming around the islands called tiger sharks that the writer of the article appears to have completely overlooked.... ......seems to me they should try actually visiting a state and learn something before they try to write about it......
 
it reminds me of a similar list posted here once about the deadliest animal in every state - that listed the hawaiian box jellyfish as the most deadly animal in hawaii....
The most deadly animal in every state is the human…and it’s not even close.
 
I should add, I try to walk for a minimum of 30 minutes a night, 60 if I have time. I mix in a little weightlifting during the hour as well. I’ve been doing this for close to twenty years, but I notice my A1C does go up if I begin to slack with this routine.
there is no one size fits all when it comes to dietary habits and nutrition..... or anything else for that matter that affects health and wellness.... ..the most effective measures are to follow what has worked best for people you can best relate to..... ancestry and heritage play a much bigger part in what one persons body can tolerate when compared to another regarding diet and heath, than modern society.. whether medical political or otherwise ..wants to admit.... all sides of the conversation can have selfish reasons for demanding everybody reads from the same page... .

but the bottom line is.. if you come from a long line of people who all lived in into their 90s then you can feel relatively comfortable copying their eating habits and lifestyle.... (within reason and if possible).... but if the majority of people in your past family tree died young or before their time from health issues.. then it might be some evaluation... reconsideration.... and a change of lifetyle is in order.........

in the end none of us will outrun our genetics.. no matter how hard we try... unless God intervenes and prolongs our lives inspite of ourselves..... and quite often dramatic and extreme measures taken in attempts to enhance a persons health or prolong life only serve to hasten their demise....
 
there is no one size fits all when it comes to dietary habits and nutrition..... or anything else for that matter that affects health and wellness.... ..the most effective measures are to follow what has worked best for people you can best relate to
I agree. I try to let people know what works for me, but it might not work for everyone (such as the cinnamon supplements I mentioned). However, if I can motivate someone who does no exercise to at least try walking 30 minutes a day, or try substituting regular crust pizza with thin crust, then it’d be selfish of me not to at least mention what’s helped me.

I’ve already been told I’ll likely become a diabetic because it’s just too strong genetically in my family, but the goal is to push that off from happening to my 60s or 70s, not while I’m in my 40s.
 
As a type 2 diabetic I really appreciate the strides the food industry has made on creating a variety of options for bread replacements so I won't have an A1C in the 10+ range, but if they could get busy finding a suitably low glycemic replacement for the common biscuit I sure would be most appreciative.
the glycemic index of foods wasn;t that big an issue.. or even clearly understood... until recently when processed and ultra-refined foods came into existence.......but the glycemic index of carbs taken in as well as the overall volume of them, is huge in relation to blood sugar numbers and the A1C..... ......i think if people studied the history of current popular foods and learned the reasons they were adopted by .. (or in some cases forced on).... specific classes or locales in the past couple of centuries... (including the infamous biscuits and gravy)... they would run from most of them... and never look back... ..

but in the end it;s hard to deny the taste buds once they have gotten accustomed to something - no matter how big it makes the belly or how short it renders the life..... ...truly healthy choices with regards to food can be hard to make.... harder still when everyone else around you is eating the same thing and giving you strange looks if you are not doing likewise......

we deal with those kinds of looks all the time at restaurants here when we tell servers and waiters to leave the rice off our our plates..... ..some of them look at us like we just asked them to chop one of their toes off and serve it up raw.... .. social pressure can be a bigger influence on what we eat than what our doctor or blood work numbers tell us.... but we have to make the right choices if we are going to make a difference...
 
I agree. I try to let people know what works for me, but it might not work for everyone (such as the cinnamon supplements I mentioned). However, if I can motivate someone who does no exercise to at least try walking 30 minutes a day, or try substituting regular crust pizza with thin crust, then it’d be selfish of me not to at least mention what’s helped me.

I’ve already been told I’ll likely become a diabetic because it’s just too strong genetically in my family, but the goal is to push that off from happening to my 60s or 70s, not while I’m in my 40s.
cinnamon is one of those things that will work for a while... especially if combined with caffiene and something that stimulates insulin production.... but it will only work for a limited time.... eventually your body will get used to it and it won;t have as great an effect..... ...i know a person who was using cinnamon and sugar free red bull for a long time to lower his blood sugar ...because he could not remain on his job if he was on certain medications..... and it was having a dramatic effect.... especially while he was actively working on the job.....

but then that combination slowly stopped working as well so he switched to a more potent exotic type of cinnamon.... and that;s when his liver ezyme numbers starting climbing indicating potential liver damage was being done.... ....he stopped using cinnamon altogether now except only as something to flavor oatmeal with.... and went back to coffee as a preferred source of caffiene.... (but he;s also retired)...

he also says he would not recommend anything about the things he did to remain awake and functional ..or to keep his blood sugar down back in those days to anybody... not the food... not the caffiene... (from any source)... and especially not the occupation that made the things he did necessary.... ...which is sad.. because we all paid a price for that one....

exercise is awesome for it;s health benefits as long as you don;t over do it. ... but that too is dependent on what you are used to and can tolerate.... ..it;s different for each individual.... .. done right it;s something most everyone can benefit from.
 
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the glycemic index of foods wasn;t that big an issue.. or even clearly understood... until recently when processed and ultra-refined foods came into existence.......but the glycemic index of carbs taken in as well as the overall volume of them, is huge in relation to blood sugar numbers and the A1C..... ......i think if people studied the history of current popular foods and learned the reasons they were adopted by .. (or in some cases forced on).... specific classes or locales in the past couple of centuries... (including the infamous biscuits and gravy)... they would run from most of them... and never look back... ..

but in the end it;s hard to deny the taste buds once they have gotten accustomed to something - no matter how big it makes the belly or how short it renders the life..... ...truly healthy choices with regards to food can be hard to make.... harder still when everyone else around you is eating the same thing and giving you strange looks if you are not doing likewise......

we deal with those kinds of looks all the time at restaurants here when we tell servers and waiters to leave the rice off our our plates..... ..some of them look at us like we just asked them to chop one of their toes off and serve it up raw.... .. social pressure can be a bigger influence on what we eat than what our doctor or blood work numbers tell us.... but we have to make the right choices if we are going to make a difference...
The social component can be very difficult, especially when eating at a house other than your own. If I’m going to stay with relatives for a couple days, I either bring my own keto bread or I just have to really eat a minimal portion of whatever they’re serving that might be carb heavy. I always loved biscuits and gravy, but now it’s ONE biscuit and gravy, not two or three.

With me, it just is what it is. If you looked at me, you’d think I’m a guy in my 40s in pretty good shape for my age, but those sugar-sensitive genes are hard to beat.
 
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