A New Theory

[Vince Massi]

Norefund, you do realize that the video you posted mocks the Biblical doctrine that you who judge do the same things.

What Biblical doctrine did that clip directly mock?

The doctrine that you who judge do the same things.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Norefund, you do realize that the video you posted mocks the Biblical doctrine that you who judge do the same things.

What Biblical doctrine did that clip directly mock?

The doctrine that you who judge do the same things.

I'm not quite sure what that means but then again, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box so carry on!

 

[Norefund]

And here I thought Vince was using self-deprecating humor.

I don't see how the clip is mocking Biblical doctrine either, but then again, I am obviously not at Vince's level of spiritual reasoning. I thought it was mocking the oft repeated refrain in this and other threads that anyone objecting to something Vince said will be immediately informed by Vince that the objection is really just a form of judgement that the objector sees as sin in his own life. Ergo - if you didn't like what I posted it is because you are committing that very sin in your life.

I'm going to try real hard to care. Eh, maybe not.

 

[qwerty]

So we just chalk it up to Vince continuing to talk about that which he does not know.  A true example of "he that answereth a matter...."

You found a source that fits your narrative, then when called on it you play the "oops, my bad". 

In this thread alone we have Vince claiming

A couple years back, two, and only two, clergy in the US committed suicide. One shot himself as police surrounded his church building to arrest him for child porn. Another hanged himself in his jail cell after he was charged with raping a woman he had picked up at a bar. Both were HAC grads.

and

I don't know if it's still true, but about four years ago, HAC had more pastoral grads in jail for sex crimes with children than every college and university in the Southern Baptist Convention combined.

With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth. 

 

[Vince Massi]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

 

[qwerty]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

So Vince can continue to make false claims and hide cowardly behind scripture...... what a coward.

 

[Walt]

In any sizable organization, there will be perverts. That wasn't the problem. The problem was how those perverts were handled - the cover ups, the denials, the standing ovations, etc..

I don't know about the first part of the statement.  It seems that HAC/FBCH had more (possibly far more) than its share of perverts for any organization of its size.  It's true that, given a large enough organization, the odds of there being a pervert are greater.  But the culture there seemed to attract people with those tendencies.

I completely agree about the problem with denials and cover-ups.

 

[Walt]

I found a professional news source that stated that the one who had hanged himself in a jail cell had attended HAC, but it did not say whether or not he had graduated. I found a blog site that complained that they couldn't find out what college the porn-user had graduated from.

I know this man, have been in his church.  Yes, he attended HAC.  Not sure he graduated from there.

 

[BALAAM]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

Please, get back on the right meds Preable. You are getting progressively wierder again.

 

[RAIDER]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

Please, get back on the right meds Preable. You are getting progressively wierder again.

It's just another tequila sunrise

 

[BALAAM]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

Please, get back on the right meds Preable. You are getting progressively wierder again.

It's just another tequila sunrise

I know but this guy thinks he is instructing everyone else and that we are all grateful for his profound wisdom.

 

[Bruh]

Qwerty scoffs "With zero proof to substantiate the claims...just his continued incontinence of his mouth."

As Qwerty has posted no documentation of his claims, we can go to Romans 2:1--"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Qwerty continues to describe his own sins.

Readers, I want you to understand that I am posting this for your sakes, not Qwerty's. Proverbs 13:1 explains that none of us can correct him: "...a scorner does not listen to rebuke."

Please, get back on the right meds Preable. You are getting progressively wierder again.

It's just another tequila sunrise

I know but this guy thinks he is instructing everyone else and that we are all grateful for his profound wisdom.

I am.  <face palm>  he he he he he!! do you think he believes me? 

 

[Vince Massi]

"So Vince can continue to ... hide cowardly behind scripture...... what a coward."

Good Heavens, readers, Qwerty finally got one right! For some time now, Qwerty has been traveling through the forum insulting people, and I am the first one to successfully stand up to him. So, I'm a hero, right? Wrong. I'm a coward who knows what he's doing.

Disobeying God's commands not to scorn, speak evil of the brethren, and scorn, every one of Qwerty's attacks on me has missed until this one. Hiding behind God's Word (People who judge are describing their own sins, people who speak evil of the brethren are judging God's law but not doing it, Surely God scorns scorners, etc) I've been hitting with 100% accuracy. Come out from behind God's Word? I don't have the courage.

God tells us to arm ourselves with the Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. Cast aside a weapon given me by God Himself? I don't have the courage.

And I fear the Lord. Rely on judging, speaking evil, and scorn? I don't have the courage.

Nope. Qwerty finally got one right.

 

[cast.sheep]

(Eyes rolling)

 

[BALAAM]

"So Vince can continue to ... hide cowardly behind scripture...... what a coward."

Good Heavens, readers, Qwerty finally got one right! For some time now, Qwerty has been traveling through the forum insulting people, and I am the first one to successfully stand up to him. So, I'm a hero, right? Wrong. I'm a coward who knows what he's doing.

Disobeying God's commands not to scorn, speak evil of the brethren, and scorn, every one of Qwerty's attacks on me has missed until this one. Hiding behind God's Word (People who judge are describing their own sins, people who speak evil of the brethren are judging God's law but not doing it, Surely God scorns scorners, etc) I've been hitting with 100% accuracy. Come out from behind God's Word? I don't have the courage.

God tells us to arm ourselves with the Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. Cast aside a weapon given me by God Himself? I don't have the courage.

And I fear the Lord. Rely on judging, speaking evil, and scorn? I don't have the courage.

Nope. Qwerty finally got one right.

Now after reading all your nincompoop posts I would not have come to the conclusion that you were a coward. However, as for you knowing what you are doing? You would be the only one who thinks that. Personally, I think you are a bloomin idiot!

 

[bgwilkinson]

I found a professional news source that stated that the one who had hanged himself in a jail cell had attended HAC, but it did not say whether or not he had graduated. I found a blog site that complained that they couldn't find out what college the porn-user had graduated from.

I know this man, have been in his church.  Yes, he attended HAC.  Not sure he graduated from there.

I believe you are talking about MJ who pastored my son-in-law's home church, the one that merged with the defunct Miller Road.

 

[IFB X-Files]

I think you are a bloomin idiot!

Ditto.  And I'm judging "righteous judgment".

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

 

[Vince Massi]

No, X-Files, you're not. You're quoting a man who constantly uses mental illness as an accusation.

Balaam has stated more than once that he is justified in attacking people who are doing him no harm if they make him angry. This is in disobedience to God's commands that as much as lies in us, we are to live in peace with all men, and that we are to endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

He has made a couple of statements on this forum about the pain he is suffering from a conflict he started on another forum (without taking responsibility). He has chosen the name of a person whom the New Testament refers to as possessing madness.

This makes two forums in which Balaam has lost control of his emotions, and it has happened more than once. God upholds the people Balaam judges, and Balaam's anger only grows worse when he sees it.

 

[BALAAM]

No, X-Files, you're not. You're quoting a man who constantly uses mental illness as an accusation.

Balaam has stated more than once that he is justified in attacking people who are doing him no harm if they make him angry. This is in disobedience to God's commands that as much as lies in us, we are to live in peace with all men, and that we are to endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

He has made a couple of statements on this forum about the pain he is suffering from a conflict he started on another forum (without taking responsibility). He has chosen the name of a person whom the New Testament refers to as possessing madness.

This makes two forums in which Balaam has lost control of his emotions, and it has happened more than once. God upholds the people Balaam judges, and Balaam's anger only grows worse when he sees it.

Meds and mental illness are two completely different things. And, about the rest of this drivel; You are still a bloomin idiot. But, I will give you this: You are the ONLY one to have ever successfully stood up to  Qwery! (I am sure he is impressed)

And you seem to misunderstand very much about Balaam. Far as I know he is the only one to have talked with an ass.

 

[qwerty]

No, X-Files, you're not. You're quoting a man who constantly uses mental illness as an accusation.

Balaam has stated more than once that he is justified in attacking people who are doing him no harm if they make him angry. This is in disobedience to God's commands that as much as lies in us, we are to live in peace with all men, and that we are to endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

He has made a couple of statements on this forum about the pain he is suffering from a conflict he started on another forum (without taking responsibility). He has chosen the name of a person whom the New Testament refers to as possessing madness.

This makes two forums in which Balaam has lost control of his emotions, and it has happened more than once. God upholds the people Balaam judges, and Balaam's anger only grows worse when he sees it.

Meds and mental illness are two completely different things. And, about the rest of this drivel; You are still a bloomin idiot. But, I will give you this: You are the ONLY one to have ever successfully stood up to  Qwery! (I am sure he is impressed)

And you seem to misunderstand very much about Balaam. Far as I know he is the only one to have talked with an ass.

I am not sure successfully standing up on false principles would be accurate.... Vince only excuse is apparently his inability to properly perform a Google search and if you call him out on it, he runs while crying "you're judging me".  He has made two very inaccurate statements based in his own "research" which is how many times something appears in a Google search.  If you press him on it, he will again runs crying "you're judging me" while copy/pasting verses.

I am guessing the incredible health care system in Mexico does not treat narcissistic personality disorders.