Just John said:
pastorryanhayden said:
I wonder if he is against saying the pledge of allegiance.
Now that we know he is he would also need to be against an oath of marriage as well to be consistent. This is just an example of going over the edge a bit IMO.
Are you saying that scripture that has been referenced in the NT & the OT do not apply at all and just taking up spaces in the Bible?
The marriage covenant is God's idea, not man's so your rebuttal does not apply since it is God Who joins them together and not the vows of the bride & the bridegroom as some do make and say them to each other at the marriage altar today.
You will not find any example of a marriage vow in the Bible where the bride & the bridegroom say to each other as some do today. It is either "yes" or "I do" in response to taking the other as a spouse.
Since Jesus spoke against making any vows that are His to keep via by the New Covenant, then doing so is not living the christian life by faith in the Son of God, and scripture did say that without faith, it is impossible to please God: Hebrews 11:6 as the law is not of faith:
Romans 3:28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Romans 9:32Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world....9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
If any believer finds living the christian life too hard because they cannot keep their commitment, promise, or pledge to Him, then before they walk away, surrender from keeping that oath and ask Jesus to set you free to rest in Him and His promises to you that He will help you to live as His as He is the power for living the christian life when we live that reconciled relationship with God by faith in Jesus Christ and not by the deeds of the law wherein men can boast.
) I think too many times we get wound up about saving America and not worried about what God wants from us
