Why I believe Trump won.

Bob Jones VI said:
This time though, their ire was raised because someone tried to kill the candidate twice.
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Anecdotal evidence - I have one friend who doesn't like Trump and probably would have voted 3rd party this time, but the day Trump survived that 1st assassination attempt, he was all in on Trump.
 
I don't have an opinon as to why people voted for Trump, but the data does not lie.

About the same number of voters who voted for Trump in 2020 voted for him again. the demographics likely changed a little but the numbers are the same. Over 11 million voters who voted for Biden in 2020 chose not to vote in 2024. Many might say they were not impressed with Kamala enough to show up to the polls or fill out a mail in ballot. I wonder if her refusal to be pinned down on policy had an effect. She clearly did not have the charisma of a Bill Clinton or an Barack Obama. We would have lost badly to either of them or another good candidate.

Demographics say more Hispanic and African American males voted for Trump than ever in history. Male in general voted in large numbers for Trump. Some call this the Bro Vote. White women also voted for Trump in large numbers.

If Republicans are going to survive as a party that matters, they are going to have to become more relevent to the Hispanic and African American vote. With Millennials and Gen Zs becoming voting age and far more politically engaged than those who came before them it will become more and more difficult dfor conservatives to get elected. This demographic is taking much longer to mover to the right as mosts cohorts do.

We can not longer take the christian vote for granted and the traditional middle aged white vote is not longet assured. We must reach out to the blue collor working class voter and the minority vote. Issues like fair trade, taxes, crime, school choice, illegal immigration, and the economy are all issues that resonate with them. We MUST show results like the house did in in 1994 with the contract with America. We must take each issue that's important to the American people and tell them what we are going to do then do it.

Just my 2 cents worth if it's even worth that.
 
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subllibrm said:
That kind of talk is going to get you in big trouble. 😉
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subllibrm said:
Bad mouthing the GOP was a good start. 😉
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but that;s not what got you into trouble...... it was bad mouthing - even condemning - forum members who supported a certain candidate of the GOP.... then denying it later and trying to claim you didn;t say it.....🤨.. ....

of course you could have just apologized and admitted your sock drawer got scrambled.... ;) .... but no.... . you challenged someone here to show proof you said the things that person claimed.. .... and when that person listed a lot of proof you ignored it.... and kept on pretending it was something else.. or some matter of great integrity on your part that got you in trouble.....:rolleyes:.. . ..remember all that?.... . :sneaky:
 
“Blessed be the name of God forever and ever..............he removes kings and sets up kings;"




Hey.....................just saying



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Bob Jones VI said:
It has to do with always using the word "believe." Why I believe Christ is the Son of God. Why I believe the rapture will be after the tribulation. Why I believe that Christian School is the only option for Christian Parents. In my mind, that is when to use "believe." Belief has to do with faith, with those things that the bible teaches and we hold to be true based on what we read.

Why I think a woman should not be president. Why I think that Seven Eleven is better than Buc-ees. In those cases, it is what I think.

So then when someone "believes" a different way, it has to do with interpretation of scriptures. And if their belief is based on faulty interpretation, they are not orthdox. In Fundamental Baptist churches and colleges and seminaries, I was taught that Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Bible Church, Church of Christ, Southern Baptists, Calvary Chapel, Pentecostals, etc., all believed differently, hence a different gospel. That is a pretty common way of thinking in Fundamental Baptist churches. If you believe differently, you are Not orthodox, or as the old line fundies say, you are a pink lemonade sippnig, virgin birth denying, booze swizzling, movie going, pants wearing liberal.

It feels like you are saying that if I "believe" that trump was elected for different reasons that you do, I am in that non-orthodox category, and we need to separate ecclesiastically. But if I just think differently, we can fellowship.
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I don’t disagree with what you posted but it should be made clear that salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone can never be compromised for the sake of unity. You included the “Church of Christ” which I have had a lot of interaction with. My neighbor is a Church of Christ minister who unequivocally believes in baptismal regeneration and he believes I am going to hell because I have not been baptized by one of the ministers of his church. I know there are some in that group who do not teach that such as Max Lucado and others I’m sure but I have never personally met one. I believe there are people in Roman Catholicism and other denominations that add rituals or works of some kind to salvation that have truly been born again in spite of the teachings of their church.

When it comes to the broad coalition President Trump has managed to bring together which includes Hindus (Tulsi Gabbard), homosexuals, Mormons, and those of every other stripe and background who are opposed to turning our nation into a Marxist utopia which the Democrats have embraced, I see nothing wrong as a Christian being part of that coalition. That doesn’t excuse not engaging in personal evangelism to fellow patriotic Americans that need the Savior. The difference between “believing” in Jesus and being “born again” is the difference between believing in a parachute and putting one on.
 
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