What can miserable Christians sing?

Whats not to like about that video?  Catchy beat, cool lyrics and great clothes
 
pastorryanhayden said:
rsc2a said:
I would suspect that there were a lot of really awful songs in the 1600-1800s that were part of the church service. My guess would be that they were eventually recognized as awful so we only have the comparatively good ones left. (For example, All Creatures of Our God and King was written around 1200 and is excellent. Same with the Doxology and it was written in the late 1600s.)

The songs in today's hymnals are going through this process, and as the songbooks get redone, the bad ones will eventually die out. (Well...some pretty terrible songs seem to be quite popular among some folks. The songs on the radio (i.e. CCM) are at the very beginning of this stage so it will take a bit longer although there are still some really tremendous songs being released (e.g. In Christ Alone, How Deep the Father's Love for Us).
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I agree to an extent.
When I first went off to college, my pastor gave me an ancient (early 1800s) hymnal he had found as a gift.  Eventually, I started reading it.  What I found was a lot of songs with solid, Biblical content.  There was more "meat" to the songs.  It seemed like the people in that day had a better theological understanding.
I don't know if that understanding follows the hymnody, or the hymnody follows the understanding.  But there have definitely been times in history where at least the lyrics of the music bore a better resemblance to the Bible.  It seems like around the late 1800s early 1900s that hymns started to become POPULAR music, and hymns got commercialized and a lot of that has found its way into our hymnals.
My churches favorite songs are (Based on when we take favorites) And Can It Be, In Christ Alone, How Deep the Father's Love for Us, Bow the Knee (Ron Hamilton), My Jesus Fair (Chris Anderson), Beneath the Cross of Jesus (Getty) and my personal favorite Before the Throne of God Above.  While we definitely have "traditional" services, most of those hymns were written or retuned in the last thirty years.
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So then, in your position pastorryanhayden, does the lifestyle of the writer have anything to do with the song/music being acceptable or is it strictly content?

 
I would say it does, but there are probably cases where I just don't know about some ones lifestyle and like the song.
 
Castor Muscular said:
I hate most modern worship songs. 

"In all I do, I honor you."

Yeah, go ahead and sing lies.  I'm sure that glorifies God.
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Sort of like "I Surrender All".
 
pastorryanhayden said:
I would say it does, but there are probably cases where I just don't know about some ones lifestyle and like the song.
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So if a Mick Jaggar, Alice Cooper or Ozzy Osbourn (or another hard rock and roller) wrote a hymn, that had the right words, the right music and the right syncopation (whatever that is), would it be acceptable?

Before you give your answer mine would be yes I would have no problem with it.  Although it probably would not happen but that is not the point.
 
pastorryanhayden said:
Nothing is wrong with merry go round or barber shop quartet music.  What's wrong is a steady diet of it.  It's like cotton candy.  It's good for a treat now and then but not something you eat with every meal.
The problem in question here isn't nesscasarilly musical style so much as musical content.  A steady diet of happy, happy, happy gets you shallow, shallow, shallow.  The Psalms, God's inspired hymnal runs the gamut of emotions and subjects whereas modern popular hymnody is pretty consistently upbeat, even artificially so. 
That's what Trueman was saying.
I think we are already seeing the pendulum swing on this with the hymns being written by Keith Getty, Chris Anderson, etc.
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I just don't see how in the world what you said fits in with

Eph 5:19  Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

 
Just me said:
pastorryanhayden said:
I would say it does, but there are probably cases where I just don't know about some ones lifestyle and like the song.
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So if a Mick Jaggar, Alice Cooper or Ozzy Osbourn (or another hard rock and roller) wrote a hymn, that had the right words, the right music and the right syncopation (whatever that is), would it be acceptable?

Before you give your answer mine would be yes I would have no problem with it.  Although it probably would not happen but that is not the point.
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Rammstein probably will never do A Mighty Fortress is Our God. But they should... it would be awesome!  :o

http://youtu.be/RiJHw_06DM0
 
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