treasure_unseen: to put up or (be) shut up

[ALAYMAN]

Ransom, given his apology, whatever you make of it, did you ban him?

 

[Ransom]

Ransom, given his apology, whatever you make of it, did you ban him?

I mulled it over for a bit, but yes, he is banned. Whatever treasure_unseen said here on the forum, there was also a stream of private messages that put the lie to any public appearance of contrition.

 

[AverageJoe]

Well, if Ransom's threat of banishment was carried through then he won't be responding to any of this. I agree with you that a part of what was being done was for "getting a rise out of people". But, at the end of the day, from what I know of him, that is not a majority component of who he is. He just likes to "mix it up" in his own unique way, and that way can sometimes be off-putting to folks.

I have to admit, ALAY...it's the same with me...I often have a way of off-putting people. I've taken that into account. With treasure, as well as with Strom, as I've stated...I only let things go to a certain point...third strike you're out approach. I learned that after being attacked physically by a stalking troll. I get VERY SERIOUS when it comes to that kind of thing.

 

[Ransom]

if that person was trying to intimidate me it didn;t work..... .....i have been stalked around the internet before... and stalked in person out here where i live... .. and 2017 wasn;t the first time i was stalked by someone online pretending to be someone else.... ...it;s a sickening element of fundamentalism that believes any of this is ok.... but apparently some have no problem with it as long as it doesn;t come back and touch them personally..... .... i don;t understand that... ... i have never understood it...

You might remember that in 2015-16 I had my own stalker. Someone (typically using female names, so I assume it was a woman) sent me abusive PMs on Facebook, accusing me of net.abuse of various sorts--including of you, which was how you inadvertently got dragged into the whole mess at the time. She sent messages to my family, and even created a spoof LinkedIn page of me (which my sister found, before I knew it existed). This person didn't go after me anywhere that might reveal something I could use to track her down. I set some traps, but they didn't get sprung.

Meanwhile, around the same time, Castor Musculares/Rogue Tomato flipped out because someone was sending abusive messages to his son on Facebook. In my name. It was probably the same person.

I just checked yeshua's forum, and it looks like the ransom2 entity happened a year or so later. It could be the same person, but I have no way of knowing one way or the other.

So after about a year of enduring some kind of net.stalking, people might understand why I tend to be just a leetle bit intolerant of being accused of being the stalker.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I have to admit, ALAY...it's the same with me...I often have a way of off-putting people. I've taken that into account. With treasure, as well as with Strom, as I've stated...I only let things go to a certain point...third strike you're out approach. I learned that after being attacked physically by a stalking troll. I get VERY SERIOUS when it comes to that kind of thing.

if tlrd go to the last sentence...

Yeah, I heard your recollection in a different thread of some of the physical violence attempted on you via an online stalker....CRAZY stuff! I don't blame you for being a bit apprehensive as a result of those sort of experiences. You wouldn't think that folk on a Christian forum would be capable of that sort of thang, but not everybody is who they purport to be. You think you're insulated via distance through the keyboard, but unfortunately you sometimes aren't insulated enough. Quick story...

My job requires a security clearance and within a couple of months on the job I was in the break room eating with a long time friend of the family who was very well trusted by me and respected. After eating, he put his utensils up in a small locker in the break room and put a lock on it. I joked with him and teased him about locking up trivial items in a break room at a facility that is guarded by fellows with guns and that you have to have a security clearance in order to be hired to. He looked at me and said essentially "take your own risk". I still doubted him a bit but I figured he knows what he's talking about and it wasn't long after that that I encountered such thievery on the job that I realized he wasn't joking. Couldn't believe that people would risk their employment at a highly sought after job in order to pilfer petty stuff.

As to the method of engaging potential trolls, or people that I don't mix well with, I used to "mix it up" a little myself on the old FFF. I still recall a rebuke from Ryan Debarr in those early years as I was a growing Christian and not sure where or how to fit into this new thing of fundamentalism. He said "you bring more heat than light". I knew he was right, but at the time had too much carnal fun at the expense of others, not caring that I was potentially hurting others, and not having enough awareness of Christian doctrine to bring much light. Unfortunately his admonition fell on deaf ears for the most part for several years. I started coming out of that desire to make fun of or put down folks, and now try hard to avoid that at all costs. I much prefer to bring some light, not as much heat.

The saying "Don't feed the trolls" really does go along way with avoiding grief.

 

[aleshanee]

You might remember that in 2015-16 I had my own stalker. Someone (typically using female names, so I assume it was a woman) sent me abusive PMs on Facebook, accusing me of net.abuse of various sorts--including of you, which was how you inadvertently got dragged into the whole mess at the time. She sent messages to my family, and even created a spoof LinkedIn page of me (which my sister found, before I knew it existed). This person didn't go after me anywhere that might reveal something I could use to track her down. I set some traps, but they didn't get sprung.

Meanwhile, around the same time, Castor Musculares/Rogue Tomato flipped out because someone was sending abusive messages to his son on Facebook. In my name. It was probably the same person.

I just checked yeshua's forum, and it looks like the ransom2 entity happened a year or so later. It could be the same person, but I have no way of knowing one way or the other.

So after about a year of enduring some kind of net.stalking, people might understand why I tend to be just a leetle bit intolerant of being accused of being the stalker.

i do rmember that.... .. when i heard about it i made a post on the forum saying you had never stalked or harassed me or anyone in my family.... and that i had no idea what this person making the claim was talking about..... ....i thought whoever it was had backed off after that.... but then it started again with rogue tomato..... i don;t know why it;s happening... other than the obvious that someone has a serious problem with all of us, and wants to play sick disgusting games... i have had a few theories of who it could be.... but no way to prove any of it... ..

. .....a few years ago i was told someone joined facebook under the name aleshanee, and was actively trying to convince people from the fff she was me.... .. but people who know me saw through her pretty quick.... and then a few months ago i heard a guy with a russian name on deviant art created a dark haired character for an online game who lives in a forest...and who is a hunter-archer... and he named her aleshanee.... . he even has artwork of this aleshanee with a bow and arrows hunting from trees..... ....i have no idea who this guy really is.... or if he knows me... or if he copied me..... or if it;s all just a coincidence... ..there are a lot more people named aleshanee online now than there were 18 years ago when i logged on with it....it;s not an uncommon name anymore... . ..but how many named aleshanee are archers and hunters?.... ....if he ever puts that character on a surfboard then i guess i;ll know... ..

i haven;t logged in there to say anything about it yet... but apparently all the other artists there are giving him high accolades for his "creation".... ...i wanted to log in a tell them... "hey.. if you wanna see the real thing... grab and bow... then come over here and track through the rainforest with me... but you won;t do it dressed the way his character is"..... but i do understand both the frustration and injustice suffered by being falsely accused.... .that;s why i;ll never make that kind of charge without good evidence... ...

 

[Bob H]

Good call. Posters like him {whether real or troll} drive others away.