Those who "pushed" man worship

[RAIDER]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

 

[16KJV11]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Ray Young comes to mind first.

 

[Jim Jones]

Whoever did it? Had and still have willing sycophants who can't or are too lazy to think for themselves.


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[RAIDER]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Ray Young comes to mind first.

That is the name that I think of first.

 

[tobytyler]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Ray Young comes to mind first.

DITTO

 

[16KJV11]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Ray Young comes to mind first.

DITTO

EVERY time you asked his advice, he taught, or spoke, he would always say: Bro. Hyles tells us, Bro. Hyle's said, Bro. Hyles does it this way, etc, ad nauseum....

 

[RAIDER]

I know this one was before some of your "times" but Joe Combs is another one.

 

[fishinnut]

Davey boy was pretty good at it when he was the church Ed lecturer. which means 44 points on whatever the subject was for the day.

 

[BALAAM]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Ray Young comes to mind first.

Are you talking about RY or Bob Gray?
DITTO

EVERY time you asked his advice, he taught, or spoke, he would always say: Bro. Hyles tells us, Bro. Hyle's said, Bro. Hyles does it this way, etc, ad nauseum....

 

[LongGone]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Carl Laurent...good man but bought in to everything.

 

[prophet]

An easier list may be "who warned of it?"

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[Vince Massi]

It made perfect sense to me. Saved less than three years out of a Catholic background, I believed that certain ?saints?rose above the rest of us. Throw in Jack?s big numbers, and I was hooked.

 

[Fresh Air]

An easier list may be "who warned of it?"

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Easier as in I can't think of anybody...

Well, Jeff Owens did tell us that loyalty was not to a man; it was to the Word of God. Together, then, we shared a loyalty to the Word of God and that let us work in harmony. But even he never warned against the cult of personality there. And he and Bill Grady were the two most independent men there during my time. Grady sure didn't; he wanted his own Gradyites anyway.

 

[prophet]

An easier list may be "who warned of it?"

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Easier as in I can't think of anybody...

Well, Jeff Owens did tell us that loyalty was not to a man; it was to the Word of God. Together, then, we shared a loyalty to the Word of God and that let us work in harmony. But even he never warned against the cult of personality there. And he and Bill Grady were the two most independent men there during my time. Grady sure didn't; he wanted his own Gradyites anyway.

Haha.
I've been skimming other threads, and honestly racking my brain trying to remember anyone at all who warned of this.

I thought of one, but he no longer was  at HAC when i enrolled, so he doesn't count.

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[prophet]

An easier list may be "who warned of it?"

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Easier as in I can't think of anybody...

Well, Jeff Owens did tell us that loyalty was not to a man; it was to the Word of God. Together, then, we shared a loyalty to the Word of God and that let us work in harmony. But even he never warned against the cult of personality there. And he and Bill Grady were the two most independent men there during my time. Grady sure didn't; he wanted his own Gradyites anyway.

Haha.
I've been skimming other threads, and honestly racking my brain trying to remember anyone at all who warned of this.

I thought of one, but he no longer was at HAC when i enrolled, so he doesn't count.

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[Teri in NC]

Davey boy was pretty good at it when he was the church Ed lecturer. which means 44 points on whatever the subject was for the day.

I'm a few years behind you, so it still amazes me that you had to actually sit under his teaching/preaching. 

 

[Teri in NC]

Bink Spisak warned some of us against the cult mentality.  Personally,  I thought he was just a rebel, so I did not listen.'

He did not exactly fit the mold of the other staff members.

 

[Walt]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Many of the HAC graduates (I attended a few HAC churches, and the worship from afar was always there)

Bob Gray, TX
Tom Neal
Jack Trieber
Paul Chappel

 

[Norefund]

It's hard to imagine a guy named "Bink" being a rebel.

Bink Spisak warned some of us against the cult mentality.  Personally,  I thought he was just a rebel, so I did not listen.'

He did not exactly fit the mold of the other staff members.

 

[RAIDER]

On the HAC FFF we read quite often about the man worship that some feel took place at HAC or in the IFB movement.  I know that many will say that Jack Hyles encouraged this.  But beyond Hyles himself, who was it that pushed this practice?

Many of the HAC graduates (I attended a few HAC churches, and the worship from afar was always there)

Bob Gray, TX
Tom Neal
Jack Trieber
Paul Chappel

Shame on you turning four posts into one!!